[nabs-l] lions world

Brian Hatgelakas brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net
Sat Feb 12 00:05:12 UTC 2011


I agree with you Ashley it isn't fair and if I were going to that center I'd 
either A. sublet an apartment on my own or rent an offiency at a Residence 
In or Extended Stay hotel.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world


> Joshua,
> Thanks for the clarification.
> What time is the curphew?
> That is bad.  I thought they promoted independence, guess not.
> Those who need help with meds should get it, but if you got a way for 
> identifying your meds already, they need to leave you alone.
> How terrible your roommate smoked.  While I'm not alergic to dogs, I 
> cannot stand their smell and shedding hair.
> I thought it was only this ACB student complaining, but now I know the 
> food is bad having gotten another opinion.
> This is good for Josh to know.
>
> At the center in Virginia, the nurses individualize the meds issue. Many 
> take their own medicine.
> If they cannot do it because they can't label the meds yet, then the 
> nurses help.
> Nurses also taught about diabetes management for those needing it and 
> connected students with adaptive medical equipment such as talking glucose 
> machines and talking blood pressure cuffs.
> You could also self administer any over the counter drugs without 
> question.
> Sad to hear about such restrictive policies in this century.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:36 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>
> lolololol! The food is horible! It's always warm in the dorm rooms.
> Yes, there's a curfue. Everyone has to relinquish their meds. The
> piano in the salarium, (I'm a musician,) is out of tune. I hate old,
> out-of-tune pianos! Someone kept breaking the rules. He smoked in his
> dorm room. I didn't have a choice on whether I wanted a room mate or
> not. I couldn't stand him, because he was always bragging about how
> much alcohol he could consume. I went for an evaluation, in 2007. I
> haven't attended a training center. I've received the mobility skills
> in school, and received my endependent living skills at LWSB. I only
> stayed 4 weeks. That's hw long an evaluation lasts. I made some
> friends, but some of them, (including my room mate,) were nothing but
> trouble. There are other places where he can get training without
> going to that place. O yeah, and too many of the trainees, allowed
> their guide dogs to run loose. I'm allergic to dogs.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Joshua,
>> I told Josh that on the other nabs list, the one belonging to ACB; I told
>> him to think through it, think about the rules and if he'd like to abide 
>> by
>> such restrictions.  It didn't work.
>> Josh has already been to a nfb center; now he wants to get a 
>> certification;
>> so perhaps he's willing to stay confined at LWSB to get that training.
>>
>> Joshua, what program did you attend and did you go to another training
>> center afterward?
>>
>> But do they really have a lights out rule?  Do they really have a curphew
>> where you got to be in your room?
>> I know they got dorms and roommates. They don't have apartments.  Someone
>> told me from Nabs ACB list that the food was not too good; it was mostly
>> fried food which is very unhealthy.
>> As to nurses, I can understand that if a blind person cannot identify 
>> their
>> meds; I mean some newly blind people cannot read braille or print and 
>> cannot
>> know what meds they have in what bottle!
>> But some blind people have the skills already to take their meds.
>> However, is this an individual thing?  Does everyone have to relinquish
>> their meds, or just the ones who cannot take it independently yet?
>>
>> On their website it says you have to agree to relocate after the program.
>> That sounds terrible for the reasons you stated. If you don't have 
>> friends
>> or family down in say Georga, then why move there?
>> Maybe so LWSB doesn't hear from you again.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:04 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>
>> In Little Rock, Arkansas? I attended there for 4 weeks. That is one of
>> those centers like the one Tara was talking about. They have "lights
>> out," "nurses controling meds," etc. I know, because I was there. They
>> thought that every blind person needed counseling. They called it
>> assertiveness training. The whole thing is a scam! They ship you off
>> to another state once you've graduated. Let's say, your home state is
>> Arkansas, (because that's mine.) You go through the IRS program, (for
>> example.) Once you've graduated, (since there are no jobs for you in
>> that field, they'll ship you to Georgia, Florida, Alabama, or
>> somewhere else, without your consent. I want to stay in Arkansas. All
>> of my family is here. You think I'm going to a state where I don't
>> know anyone from Adam? Nope! That's all LWSB is good for. Stay away!
>> Go to LCB, if you want that kind of training, but stay away from LWSB!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 2/11/11, Josh Kennedy <jkenn337 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I want to let you guys know that I will be going to lions world within
>>> the next 5 or so months. I will be going for desktop support technician
>>> and then microsoft certified systems engineer program.
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
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