[nabs-l] lions world

Sat Feb 12 04:05:33 UTC 2011

Their Website is, www.lwsb.org. Harold Williams, and Jerry Leach are
the counselors. They're great people, and I appreciate them. They're
more than just counselors, if you have a problem, they're there to
help. If something's going wrong, (the man smoking in his room, while
I'm in there,) (for example,) the counselors are the ones to reprimand
the offender.
Blessings, Joshua

On 2/11/11, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that's a good think for those who have psyke issues. What's their
> websight? RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>
>
>> You don't have to attend after the first week. I didn't go to them
>> after the first week. Whoever your advisor was, the other one was your
>> "Assertiveness Training"  counselor. The turning over of meds must
>> have stopped when Anmol went. I think he attended a year or so after I
>> did. That's when they got a new administrator. Ramona was crazy! They
>> do have good O and M instructors, though. I liked the one I had. I
>> just didn't care for the not-so-needed Braille class. I hated the dorm
>> rooms. It was mid-fall, and they always had it so hot in the rooms, I
>> couldn't stand it. It was 100 degrees, and the only places with air
>> conditioning were the cafeterea, the salarium, and the breizway. I
>> think the classrooms were hot to. They also, (in my list of
>> improvements,) need to tune that stinking piano in the salarium! I bet
>> it's still out of tune! Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Anmol,
>>> When did you go there? Perhaps the discrepancy in policy and people's
>>> experiences has to do with the leadership there.
>>> Joshua Lester said everyone had to turn over meds to a nurse.  You said
>>> its
>>> optional.
>>> Some centers have a rule where you have to be cleared by an O&M staff
>>> person. Is this
>>> the case at LWSB before you can go off campus?
>>>
>>> Also acording to the LWSB website, they still have a psychologist and
>>> psychiatrist on staff.
>>> Is that the case? If so, do you have to take the counseling class,
>>> assertive
>>> training I think they call it?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Anmol Bhatia
>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:34 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>>
>>> Josh most of the people who attend LWSB are adults and are treated as
>>> such.
>>> There is good and bad to every training centers even the ones run by NFB.
>>>
>>> O!
>>> and I forgot to address one more point that of taking one's meds. The
>>> trainies have the option to give their meds to a nerse but are not
>>> required
>>> to do so. However, coming to take the meds is totally the trainy's
>>> responsibility. The nerse will not come and find you to remind you to
>>> take
>>> your medison.
>>>
>>> Anmol
>>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
>>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a
>>> breeze
>>> among flowers.
>>> Hellen Keller
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 2/11/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 6:19 PM
>>>> Exactly! The majority of the trainees
>>>> are 5 or more years past
>>>> "fresh-out-of-high-school" age. I was the only 18-year-old
>>>> there.
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 2/11/11, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > They should get with the 21st century this isn't the
>>>> 40's anymore.  Or if it
>>>> > is why am I born and what am I doing out hear on this
>>>> internet thingie?
>>>> > LOL! just kidding!
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>> > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>> list"
>>>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:07 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >>I don't know, but they've done this since their
>>>> founding in 1946.
>>>> >> Blessings, Joshua
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 2/11/11, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>> Why did Lyons World have a curfew and make
>>>> everyone relinquish
>>>> >>> medications?
>>>> >>> That is dumbing really independent blind
>>>> adults down to babys in my
>>>> >>> opinion!
>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>> >>> To: "National Association of Blind Students
>>>> mailing list"
>>>> >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:36 PM
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> lolololol! The food is horible! It's
>>>> always warm in the dorm rooms.
>>>> >>>> Yes, there's a curfue. Everyone has to
>>>> relinquish their meds. The
>>>> >>>> piano in the salarium, (I'm a musician,)
>>>> is out of tune. I hate old,
>>>> >>>> out-of-tune pianos! Someone kept breaking
>>>> the rules. He smoked in his
>>>> >>>> dorm room. I didn't have a choice on
>>>> whether I wanted a room mate or
>>>> >>>> not. I couldn't stand him, because he was
>>>> always bragging about how
>>>> >>>> much alcohol he could consume. I went for
>>>> an evaluation, in 2007. I
>>>> >>>> haven't attended a training center. I've
>>>> received the mobility skills
>>>> >>>> in school, and received my endependent
>>>> living skills at LWSB. I only
>>>> >>>> stayed 4 weeks. That's hw long an
>>>> evaluation lasts. I made some
>>>> >>>> friends, but some of them, (including my
>>>> room mate,) were nothing but
>>>> >>>> trouble. There are other places where he
>>>> can get training without
>>>> >>>> going to that place. O yeah, and too many
>>>> of the trainees, allowed
>>>> >>>> their guide dogs to run loose. I'm
>>>> allergic to dogs.
>>>> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Joshua,
>>>> >>>>> I told Josh that on the other nabs
>>>> list, the one belonging to ACB; I
>>>> >>>>> told
>>>> >>>>> him to think through it, think about
>>>> the rules and if he'd like to
>>>> >>>>> abide
>>>> >>>>> by
>>>> >>>>> such restrictions.  It didn't
>>>> work.
>>>> >>>>> Josh has already been to a nfb center;
>>>> now he wants to get a
>>>> >>>>> certification;
>>>> >>>>> so perhaps he's willing to stay
>>>> confined at LWSB to get that training.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Joshua, what program did you attend
>>>> and did you go to another training
>>>> >>>>> center afterward?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> But do they really have a lights out
>>>> rule?  Do they really have a
>>>> >>>>> curphew
>>>> >>>>> where you got to be in your room?
>>>> >>>>> I know they got dorms and roommates.
>>>> They don't have apartments.
>>>> >>>>> Someone
>>>> >>>>> told me from Nabs ACB list that the
>>>> food was not too good; it was
>>>> >>>>> mostly
>>>> >>>>> fried food which is very unhealthy.
>>>> >>>>> As to nurses, I can understand that if
>>>> a blind person cannot identify
>>>> >>>>> their
>>>> >>>>> meds; I mean some newly blind people
>>>> cannot read braille or print and
>>>> >>>>> cannot
>>>> >>>>> know what meds they have in what
>>>> bottle!
>>>> >>>>> But some blind people have the skills
>>>> already to take their meds.
>>>> >>>>> However, is this an individual
>>>> thing?  Does everyone have to relinquish
>>>> >>>>> their meds, or just the ones who
>>>> cannot take it independently yet?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On their website it says you have to
>>>> agree to relocate after the
>>>> >>>>> program.
>>>> >>>>> That sounds terrible for the reasons
>>>> you stated. If you don't have
>>>> >>>>> friends
>>>> >>>>> or family down in say Georga, then why
>>>> move there?
>>>> >>>>> Maybe so LWSB doesn't hear from you
>>>> again.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Ashley
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:04
>>>> PM
>>>> >>>>> To: National Association of Blind
>>>> Students mailing list
>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> In Little Rock, Arkansas? I attended
>>>> there for 4 weeks. That is one of
>>>> >>>>> those centers like the one Tara was
>>>> talking about. They have "lights
>>>> >>>>> out," "nurses controling meds," etc. I
>>>> know, because I was there. They
>>>> >>>>> thought that every blind person needed
>>>> counseling. They called it
>>>> >>>>> assertiveness training. The whole
>>>> thing is a scam! They ship you off
>>>> >>>>> to another state once you've
>>>> graduated. Let's say, your home state is
>>>> >>>>> Arkansas, (because that's mine.) You
>>>> go through the IRS program, (for
>>>> >>>>> example.) Once you've graduated,
>>>> (since there are no jobs for you in
>>>> >>>>> that field, they'll ship you to
>>>> Georgia, Florida, Alabama, or
>>>> >>>>> somewhere else, without your consent.
>>>> I want to stay in Arkansas. All
>>>> >>>>> of my family is here. You think I'm
>>>> going to a state where I don't
>>>> >>>>> know anyone from Adam? Nope! That's
>>>> all LWSB is good for. Stay away!
>>>> >>>>> Go to LCB, if you want that kind of
>>>> training, but stay away from LWSB!
>>>> >>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On 2/11/11, Josh Kennedy <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> Hi
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I want to let you guys know that I
>>>> will be going to lions world within
>>>> >>>>>> the next 5 or so months. I will be
>>>> going for desktop support
>>>> >>>>>> technician
>>>> >>>>>> and then microsoft certified
>>>> systems engineer program.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Josh
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
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