[nabs-l] lions world

RJ Sandefur joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Sat Feb 12 04:46:28 UTC 2011


Do you have any idea what this would involv? RJs
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world


> Mr. Andrews, there are plenty of blind people in Arkansas, for us,
> (the NFB,) to start a center. What's the holdup? I'll E-mail our new
> state president, and we'll raise money for this.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 2/11/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> Because they view us as blind persons as being very limited and they
>> must take care of and watch out for us.  This is in part why we, in
>> the NFB, started our own Centers.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 06:00 PM 2/11/2011, you wrote:
>>>Why did Lyons World have a curfew and make everyone relinquish
>>>medications? That is dumbing really independent blind adults down to
>>>babys in my opinion!
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester"
>>><jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:36 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>>
>>>
>>>>lolololol! The food is horible! It's always warm in the dorm rooms.
>>>>Yes, there's a curfue. Everyone has to relinquish their meds. The
>>>>piano in the salarium, (I'm a musician,) is out of tune. I hate old,
>>>>out-of-tune pianos! Someone kept breaking the rules. He smoked in his
>>>>dorm room. I didn't have a choice on whether I wanted a room mate or
>>>>not. I couldn't stand him, because he was always bragging about how
>>>>much alcohol he could consume. I went for an evaluation, in 2007. I
>>>>haven't attended a training center. I've received the mobility skills
>>>>in school, and received my endependent living skills at LWSB. I only
>>>>stayed 4 weeks. That's hw long an evaluation lasts. I made some
>>>>friends, but some of them, (including my room mate,) were nothing but
>>>>trouble. There are other places where he can get training without
>>>>going to that place. O yeah, and too many of the trainees, allowed
>>>>their guide dogs to run loose. I'm allergic to dogs.
>>>>Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>>On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>Joshua,
>>>>>I told Josh that on the other nabs list, the one belonging to ACB; I 
>>>>>told
>>>>>him to think through it, think about the rules and if he'd like to 
>>>>>abide
>>>>> by
>>>>>such restrictions.  It didn't work.
>>>>>Josh has already been to a nfb center; now he wants to get a
>>>>> certification;
>>>>>so perhaps he's willing to stay confined at LWSB to get that training.
>>>>>
>>>>>Joshua, what program did you attend and did you go to another training
>>>>>center afterward?
>>>>>
>>>>>But do they really have a lights out rule?  Do they really have a 
>>>>>curphew
>>>>>where you got to be in your room?
>>>>>I know they got dorms and roommates. They don't have apartments. 
>>>>>Someone
>>>>>told me from Nabs ACB list that the food was not too good; it was 
>>>>>mostly
>>>>>fried food which is very unhealthy.
>>>>>As to nurses, I can understand that if a blind person cannot identify
>>>>> their
>>>>>meds; I mean some newly blind people cannot read braille or print and
>>>>> cannot
>>>>>know what meds they have in what bottle!
>>>>>But some blind people have the skills already to take their meds.
>>>>>However, is this an individual thing?  Does everyone have to relinquish
>>>>>their meds, or just the ones who cannot take it independently yet?
>>>>>
>>>>>On their website it says you have to agree to relocate after the 
>>>>>program.
>>>>>That sounds terrible for the reasons you stated. If you don't have
>>>>> friends
>>>>>or family down in say Georga, then why move there?
>>>>>Maybe so LWSB doesn't hear from you again.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ashley
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Joshua Lester
>>>>>Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:04 PM
>>>>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>>>>
>>>>>In Little Rock, Arkansas? I attended there for 4 weeks. That is one of
>>>>>those centers like the one Tara was talking about. They have "lights
>>>>>out," "nurses controling meds," etc. I know, because I was there. They
>>>>>thought that every blind person needed counseling. They called it
>>>>>assertiveness training. The whole thing is a scam! They ship you off
>>>>>to another state once you've graduated. Let's say, your home state is
>>>>>Arkansas, (because that's mine.) You go through the IRS program, (for
>>>>>example.) Once you've graduated, (since there are no jobs for you in
>>>>>that field, they'll ship you to Georgia, Florida, Alabama, or
>>>>>somewhere else, without your consent. I want to stay in Arkansas. All
>>>>>of my family is here. You think I'm going to a state where I don't
>>>>>know anyone from Adam? Nope! That's all LWSB is good for. Stay away!
>>>>>Go to LCB, if you want that kind of training, but stay away from LWSB!
>>>>>Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>>On 2/11/11, Josh Kennedy <jkenn337 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I want to let you guys know that I will be going to lions world within
>>>>>>the next 5 or so months. I will be going for desktop support 
>>>>>>technician
>>>>>>and then microsoft certified systems engineer program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Josh
>>
>>
>>
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