[nabs-l] lions world

[David Andrews]

Joshua:

It would be nice to have other NFb Centers, but I think it is vastly 
more difficult and expensive then you think.  Plus Arkansas is pretty 
close to Louisiana -- if we were going to start another Center I 
think it would be in an area that is geographically more distant from 
an existing Center.

Dave

At 10:30 PM 2/11/2011, you wrote:
>Mr. Andrews, there are plenty of blind people in Arkansas, for us,
>(the NFB,) to start a center. What's the holdup? I'll E-mail our new
>state president, and we'll raise money for this.
>Blessings, Joshua
>
>On 2/11/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> > Because they view us as blind persons as being very limited and they
> > must take care of and watch out for us.  This is in part why we, in
> > the NFB, started our own Centers.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 06:00 PM 2/11/2011, you wrote:
> >>Why did Lyons World have a curfew and make everyone relinquish
> >>medications? That is dumbing really independent blind adults down to
> >>babys in my opinion!
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester"
> >><jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:36 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
> >>
> >>
> >>>lolololol! The food is horible! It's always warm in the dorm rooms.
> >>>Yes, there's a curfue. Everyone has to relinquish their meds. The
> >>>piano in the salarium, (I'm a musician,) is out of tune. I hate old,
> >>>out-of-tune pianos! Someone kept breaking the rules. He smoked in his
> >>>dorm room. I didn't have a choice on whether I wanted a room mate or
> >>>not. I couldn't stand him, because he was always bragging about how
> >>>much alcohol he could consume. I went for an evaluation, in 2007. I
> >>>haven't attended a training center. I've received the mobility skills
> >>>in school, and received my endependent living skills at LWSB. I only
> >>>stayed 4 weeks. That's hw long an evaluation lasts. I made some
> >>>friends, but some of them, (including my room mate,) were nothing but
> >>>trouble. There are other places where he can get training without
> >>>going to that place. O yeah, and too many of the trainees, allowed
> >>>their guide dogs to run loose. I'm allergic to dogs.
> >>>Blessings, Joshua
> >>>
> >>>On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>>Joshua,
> >>>>I told Josh that on the other nabs list, the one belonging to ACB; I told
> >>>>him to think through it, think about the rules and if he'd like to abide
> >>>> by
> >>>>such restrictions.  It didn't work.
> >>>>Josh has already been to a nfb center; now he wants to get a
> >>>> certification;
> >>>>so perhaps he's willing to stay confined at LWSB to get that training.
> >>>>
> >>>>Joshua, what program did you attend and did you go to another training
> >>>>center afterward?
> >>>>
> >>>>But do they really have a lights out rule?  Do they really have a curphew
> >>>>where you got to be in your room?
> >>>>I know they got dorms and roommates. They don't have apartments.  Someone
> >>>>told me from Nabs ACB list that the food was not too good; it was mostly
> >>>>fried food which is very unhealthy.
> >>>>As to nurses, I can understand that if a blind person cannot identify
> >>>> their
> >>>>meds; I mean some newly blind people cannot read braille or print and
> >>>> cannot
> >>>>know what meds they have in what bottle!
> >>>>But some blind people have the skills already to take their meds.
> >>>>However, is this an individual thing?  Does everyone have to relinquish
> >>>>their meds, or just the ones who cannot take it independently yet?
> >>>>
> >>>>On their website it says you have to agree to relocate after the program.
> >>>>That sounds terrible for the reasons you stated. If you don't have
> >>>> friends
> >>>>or family down in say Georga, then why move there?
> >>>>Maybe so LWSB doesn't hear from you again.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ashley
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Joshua Lester
> >>>>Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:04 PM
> >>>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
> >>>>
> >>>>In Little Rock, Arkansas? I attended there for 4 weeks. That is one of
> >>>>those centers like the one Tara was talking about. They have "lights
> >>>>out," "nurses controling meds," etc. I know, because I was there. They
> >>>>thought that every blind person needed counseling. They called it
> >>>>assertiveness training. The whole thing is a scam! They ship you off
> >>>>to another state once you've graduated. Let's say, your home state is
> >>>>Arkansas, (because that's mine.) You go through the IRS program, (for
> >>>>example.) Once you've graduated, (since there are no jobs for you in
> >>>>that field, they'll ship you to Georgia, Florida, Alabama, or
> >>>>somewhere else, without your consent. I want to stay in Arkansas. All
> >>>>of my family is here. You think I'm going to a state where I don't
> >>>>know anyone from Adam? Nope! That's all LWSB is good for. Stay away!
> >>>>Go to LCB, if you want that kind of training, but stay away from LWSB!
> >>>>Blessings, Joshua
> >>>>
> >>>>On 2/11/11, Josh Kennedy <jkenn337 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>Hi
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I want to let you guys know that I will be going to lions world within
> >>>>>the next 5 or so months. I will be going for desktop support technician
> >>>>>and then microsoft certified systems engineer program.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Josh