[nabs-l] waver

[Gerardo Corripio]

Hi Joe and listers: Such an interesting topic really!and yes all of you guys 
are right! because thanks to what I've learned of figuring out how to do 
things in alternative wayhs has really helped me out in taking courses to 
keep on learning. For instance in a recent course I took an area was devoted 
to having the patient draw a picture; the therapist sees the picture and has 
to, according to what he or she sees, guide the patient. However I figured 
out myself while I heard how the others wer seeing each others' pictures as 
if we were patients, that I'd go around this by asking the patient to 
describe how he or she sees the picture in his or her mind; luckily I wasn't 
on such bad track because after the otherswer finished wen I brought up how 
I'd do this everyone agreed! So don't let a course not being doable 
frighten you away! Imagine how borring life would be if everything was 
easy!GE
rardo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] waver


I think a good project for the NABS board would be a policy guide on the
NFB's positions on specific issues.  There's been so much talk the past
couple days about what the NFB believes and how the NFB membership views
things, and I'm honestly surprised by some of the authors of these
observations, considering how long they've been around.

To Ashley,

There are some courses that require more vision than others.  When I took
statistics, SPSS was not very accessible.  I befriended a fellow student in
the class, and we completed the calculations on the program while my
classmate explained the concepts.  After all, the point of most software is
to facilitate what would otherwise take a longer time doing by hand.  The
point of MS Project is to enhance workflow, and the concepts underscored by
the software are going to basically hold true whether you use another
product or map it out on a chalkboard.  For a person that wants to make
technology their bread and butter, it's good to at least have a working
knowledge of the product.  It is not unreasonable for the professor to be
asked to adjust the exams so that the student is tested on what he or she
was capable of learning, but if the course is never taken: A. the student
will never know what could have been done; and B. the school administration
and faculty will consider it a pass to discourage future enrollment to more
proactive students.

To all,

No one is suggesting that other courses should not be taken if there are
options.  That being said, the student should not shy away from a
potentially good experience just because they think it is impossible.  If
the course is a requirement and there are no alternatives as was the case
with my stats course, buckle down and find creative ways to make it happen.
There are numerous lists of people with varying abilities who might be of
assistance.  And, there are classmates who really won't bite if you ask to
partner up to get through a project.

This is what it takes to be competitive.  Equality in the job market is not
something we're entitled to just because we're blind.  No one is required to
hire us just because we're blind.  It is our responsibility, and our
responsibility alone, to prove that despite being blind, employers can see
us as equal, and college is the premier place to learn this.  Shaking a fist
at the NFB and crying fowl because it demands the best of individuals is not
going to improve your competitive edge.  It's only working to distract you.
Part of what makes employment and technology innovations difficult is that
blind people are honestly our own worst enemies.

Regards,

Joe

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing


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