[nabs-l] windows live mail

[Jewel S.]

I have to use Windows Live for my college e-mail. While I truly hate
the program, and feel it is not screenreader-friednly, it *is*
accessible, if barely so. Accessibility means I can check my e-mails
using Windows Live. I can reply to the e-mails, though I usually
choose to reply using my GMail account, and I can download
attachments. It is accessible, but not friendly.

I agree that the term 'inaccessible' should be reserved for things
that are truly imposible to do with a sscreenreader. For example, I am
in a Spanish course, and the company's website has exercises that are
assigned for a grade. However, many of them have grapphics that have
no alt tag or text alternative. This makes those exercises
inaccessible to me. On the other hand, while the buttons in their
flash players are not labelled, their flash tutorials, which start
automatically, are accessible, but not friendly, because I can't
pause, rewind, or re-play without restarting the tutorial altogether.

Back on the topic of Windows Liiive, though...you said that it doesn't
say whether an e-mail si read or undread? This is not true. If you g
into your inbox, and you go to the first check mark with X, then arrow
down, it will say first who sent it, then either Unread or Read (which
is a link to bring up that e-mail), then the subject of the e-mail.
Once you click Unread or Read, hit H for heading, and it will take you
to the beginning of that e-mail. Just be aware that as you read the
e-mail, it's going to say 'clickable, clickable, clickable' all the
way through...this is annoying, but one can get used to it. I all but
ignore it nowadays.

I hope that h elps a little. If you are using Windows Live for your
college e-mailo account, talk to your schools' Disability Support
Services office and see if they have a technical specialist who can
work with you to help you improve your use of Windows Live. It will
never be super easy, but it doesn't have to be the hardest thing you
do.

If you hate Windows Live and have the option of foregoing using it, I
highly recommend GMail. the plain HTML format of GMail is very
helpful, and I am rarely frustrated with GMail, which means I can
check my e-mail without worrying about accessibility or firendliness
of the ce-mail client.

~Jewel

On 1/25/11, Elizabeth <lizmohnke at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Actually, yes, I have used windows live mail, and it seems to work just fine
> for me. Although I think it would be nice to be able to change the color
> scheme just a bit, but it seems to work fine for reading and composing
> emails. Again, just because something does not necessarily have all the
> features you want does not automatically mean that it is not accessible.
>
> Elizabeth
>
>> From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:21:04 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows live mail
>>
>> What I mean is jaws does not tell you everything it should.
>> Jaws should say what messages are unread as it did in outlook express.
>> In a list, normally you can type the letter of the option you want. That
>> is
>> standard in jaws.
>> But I found I have to arrow to everything in the tree list view. Also a
>> few
>> buttons in the ribbon are not labeled. Unless you used windows live mail
>> you
>> don't know how accessible/user friendly it is.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elizabeth
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:14 PM
>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows live mail
>>
>>
>> Please forgive me, but how does hitting the down arrow several times mean
>> that something is not accessible? It seems to me that if it was not
>> accessible then you would not be able to use the program at all. Simply
>> because the program does not appear to have all of the features you want
>> does not necessarily mean that a blind person cannot use it. Just my two
>> cents on the matter.
>>
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> > From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> > Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:14:01 -0500
>> > Subject: [nabs-l] windows live mail
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I’m trying to figure out whether to stay with windows live mail or try
>> > thunderbird as my email client.
>> > Live mail is the new version of outlook express.
>> > I really need to create message rules to sort emails.
>> > Do you have these problems if you use it with jaws?
>> > The problems I am finding so far:
>> > 1. While I can read and send email using shortcut keys like control N
>> > and
>> > alt S, jaws does not tell me what is unread. It used to say “unread”
>> > when
>> > I arrowed to an unread message in outlook express.
>> > 2. I cannot arrow through the list using the first letter as I normally
>> > do
>> > in a list. For instance D for deleted items; instead I have to arrow
>> > down
>> > several times to get there.
>> >
>> > Can this be fixed or is this just partly inaccessible?
>> >
>> > Ashley
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~Jewel
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