[nabs-l] did anyone hear about the FSU lawsuit?

Sun Jul 3 17:14:46 UTC 2011

I=20have=20a=20laptop=20at=20my=20school=20with=20JAWS=20on=20it.=20=20When=
=20I=20need=20it=20in=20
a=20class,=20I=20just=20take=20the=20laptop=20to=20the=20class=20and=20put=
=20it=20on=20my=20
desk.=20=20Could=20this=20work=20for=20you=20guys?

=20Chris

"A=20loss=20of=20sight,=20never=20a=20loss=20of=20vision!"=20(Camp=20Abilit=
ies=20motto)

The=20I=20C.A.N.=20=20Foundation=20helps=20visually=20impaired=20youth=20in=
=20
Maryland=20have=20the=20ability=20to=20confidently=20say=20"I=20can!"=20How=
?=20Click=20
on=20this=20link=20to=20learn=20more=20and=20to=20contribute:=20
www.icanfoundation.info=20or=20like=20us=20on=20Facebook=20at=20I=20C.A.N.=
=20=20
Foundation.

=20Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Joshua=20Lester=20<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Sat,=202=20Jul=202011=2019:19:01=20-0500
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20did=20anyone=20hear=20about=20the=20FSU=20lawsu=
it?

Ashley,=20if=20you=20read=20my=20other=20posts,=20I=20don't=20have=20a=20no=
te=20taker,=20
anymore.
I'll=20bring=20up=20NBP,=20this=20year.
Thanks=20for=20bringing=20them=20up!
Also,=20the=20college=20is=20only=20authorized=20to=20put=20Jaws=20on=20one=
=20computer.
They=20can't=20put=20it=20on=20every=20one.
I=20can't=20understand=20why.
Blessings,=20Joshua

On=207/2/11,=20bookwormahb at earthlink.net=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net>=20
wrote:
=20Joshua,
=20Yes=20it=92s=20a=20big=20problem.=20=20At=20nova,=20community=20college,=
=20they=20failed=20
to=20provide
=20braille=20math=20books=20too.
=20Get=20an=20advocate=20involved.=20=20The=20school=20is=20not=20helping=20=
because
=20its=20very=20expensive=20to=20get=20a=20math=20book=20transcribed=20into=
=20braille.
=20RFB=20will=20not=20produce=20braille=20and=20if=20that=20is=20what=20you=
=20need,=20then=20
they=20are=20not
=20providing=20you=20adaquate=20accomodations.
=20A=20solution=20is=20electronic=20text=20in=20Word.=20=20If=20you=20get=20=
the=20
electronic=20text=20from
=20the=20publisher,=20a=20Braille=20Note=20or=20other=20notetaker=20with=20=
braille=20
display=20will
=20read=20the=20Word=20file.=20=20I=20think=20it=20can=20translate=20the=20=
text=20into=20
nemeth=20braille.
=20So=20read=20it=20on=20the=20braille=20display.
=20Another=20solution=20to=20get=20some=20critical=20concepts=20is=20have=20=
a=20reader=20
type=20the
=20information=20in=20the=20computer.=20=20Then=20if=20you=20have=20an=20em=
bosser,=20
emboss=20the
=20material=20or,=20again=20with=20a=20braille=20display,=20just=20read=20i=
t=20on=20the=20
display=20from
=20the=20computer.

=20Its=20not=20a=20perfect=20solution.=20=20But=20yes=20I=20think=20you=20n=
eed=20to=20see=20it=20
to=20learn=20it,
=20so=20you=20need=20braille=20and=20these=20may=20be=20some=20ways=20to=20=
get=20braille.
=20Your=20school=20is=20trying=20APH.=20=20How=20about=20National=20braille=
=20Press?=20=20
NBP=20has
=20transcribed=20college=20level=20texts=20before.=20=20They=20might=20have=
=20an=20
algebra=20book=20your
=20school=20should=20purchase.=20=20No,=20it=20may=20not=20be=20your=20scho=
ol's=20
textbook,=20but=20the
=20concepts=20probably=20are=20the=20same.=20=20You=20could=20call=20NBP=20=
for=20more=20
info=20about=20a
=20book.
=20That=20may=20be=20a=20cheaper=20option=20than=20sending=20a=20book=20to=
=20be=20
transcribed=20and
=20embossed=20to=20braille.
=20Ashley

=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20Joshua=20Lester
=20Sent:=20Saturday,=20July=2002,=202011=206:25=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20did=20anyone=20hear=20about=20the=20FSU=20la=
wsuit?

=20Why=20won't=20someone=20help=20me,=20get=20Braille=20Math=20books,=20for=
=20my=20
community=20college?
=20I=20haven't=20had=20a=20Braille=20Math=20book,=20and=20it's=20time=20for=
=20
Intermediate=20Algebra.
=20I've=20already=20gone=20to=20Disability=20services,=20and=20they're=20wi=
lling=20to=20
help,
=20on=20the=20local=20level,=20but=20they're=20going=20through=20RFBND,=20(=
now,=20
Learning
=20Ally,)=20instead=20of=20APH,=20for=20the=20Blind.
=20I've=20asked=20them=20to=20try=20them,=20but=20I'm=20not=20hearing=20any=
thing.
=20This=20isn't=20just=20an=20FSU=20issue,=20it's=20universities,=20and=20c=
ommunity
=20colleges,=20nationwide.
=20Something=20more=20needs=20to=20be=20done.
=20Blessings,=20Joshua

=20On=207/2/11,=20Beth=20<thebluesisloose at gmail.com>=20wrote:
=20I=20won't=20be=20in=20Orlando,=20but=20call=20me=20and=20tell=20me=20wha=
t=20happens
=20during=20the=20general=20sessions.=20=20I=20can't=20go=20because=20of=20=
money=20and
=20stuff.=20=20Jamie,=20I'd=20love=20to=20see=20FSU=20get=20bombed=20with=20=
more=20than=20one
=20lawsuit=20about=20discrimination=20against=20the=20blind.=20=20You=20got=
=20lots=20of
=20errors=20in=20their=20accessibility=20policy,=20but=20I=20have=20yet=20t=
o=20see=20
those
=20errors.=20=20I=20hope=20to=20see=20an=20article=20about=20this=20in=20th=
e=20Monitor.
=20Beth

=20=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20blackbyrdfly at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date=20sent:=20Sat,=202=20Jul=202011=2017:22:36=20-0400
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20did=20anyone=20hear=20about=20the=20FSU=20la=
wsuit?

=20Thanks=20to=20everyone=20who=20wished=20us=20luck=20in=20our=20case.=20=
=20I'll=20relay
=20your=20words=20of=20encouragement=20to=20Christopher=20as=20well.

=20See=20you=20all=20in=20Orlando!

=20Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone

=20On=20Jul=202,=202011,=20at=203:21=20PM,=20Joshua=20Lester
=20<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>=20wrote:

=20=20Yes=20she=20is.
=20=20Jamie,=20this=20message=20is=20to=20you,=20when=20you=20look=20at=20t=
his=20list=20
again.
=20=20I=20pray=20that=20you're=20successful,=20and=20that=20other=20univers=
ities=20stop
=20=20discriminating=20against=20the=20disabled.
=20=20Blessings,=20Joshua

=20=20On=207/2/11,=20Chris=20Nusbaum=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>=20wrote:
=20=20That=20is...=20=20outrageous!=20I=20believe=20Jamie's=20on=20this=20l=
ist,=20so=20I
=20wish
=20=20you=20the=20best=20of=20luck!=20Mr.=20=20Goldstein=20is=20a=20great=20=
lawyer=20and=20one
=20=20that=20NFB=20has=20been=20working=20with=20for=2020=20years,=20so=20I=
=20think=20you'll
=20=20have=20a=20good=20chance=20of=20winning=20the=20case!=20Good=20luck!

=20=20Chris

=20=20"A=20loss=20of=20sight,=20never=20a=20loss=20of=20vision!"=20(Camp=20=
Abilities
=20motto)

=20=20The=20I=20C.A.N.=20=20Foundation=20helps=20visually=20impaired=20yout=
h=20in
=20=20Maryland=20have=20the=20ability=20to=20confidently=20say=20"I=20can!"=
=20How?=20
Click
=20=20on=20this=20link=20to=20learn=20more=20and=20to=20contribute:
=20=20www.icanfoundation.info=20or=20like=20us=20on=20Facebook=20at=20I=20C=
.A.N.
=20=20Foundation.

=20=20Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote

=20=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20=20From:=20Beth=20<thebluesisloose at gmail.com
=20=20To:=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20=20Date=20sent:=20Fri,=2001=20Jul=202011=2022:15:42=20-0600
=20=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20did=20anyone=20hear=20about=20the=20FSU=20lawsu=
it?

=20=20Hi,=20guys.=20=20I=20thought=20I=20might=20ask=20you=20Florida=20stud=
ents=20or=20any
=20=20students=20out=20there=20if=20you've=20heard=20that=20two=20of=20my=20=
friends=20are
=20=20suing=20FSU,=20my=20old=20university.=20=20They're=20suing=20because=
=20of=20the=20
math
=20=20department=20and=20the=20way=20the=20faculty=20has=20been=20treating=
=20them.=20=20For
=20=20more,=20here's=20a=20clip=20of=20the=20article.

=20=20Blind=20Students=20Sue=20Florida=20State=20University=20for=20Discrim=
ination
=20=206/29/2011

=20=20FOR=20IMMEDIATE=20RELEASE
=20=20CONTACT:
=20=20Chris=20Danielsen
=20=20Director=20of=20Public=20Relations
=20=20National=20Federation=20of=20the=20Blind
=20=20(410)=20659-9314,=20extension=202330
=20=20(410)=20262-1281=20(Cell)
=20=20cdanielsen=20at=20nfb.org

=20=20Blind=20Students=20Sue=20Florida=20State=20University=20for=20Discrim=
ination
=20=20National=20Federation=20of=20the=20Blind=20Outraged=20at=20University=
's
=20Actions
=20=20Baltimore,=20Maryland=20(June=2029,=202011):=20With=20the=20assistanc=
e=20of=20the
=20=20National
=20=20Federation=20of=20the=20Blind,=20two=20blind=20students-Christopher=20=
Shane
=20=20Toth=20and=20Jamie
=20=20Ann=20Principato-filed=20suit=20today=20against=20Florida=20State=20
University
=20=20(FSU)=20and
=20=20its=20board=20of=20trustees.=20=20The=20suit=20alleges=20that=20FSU's=
=20Department
=20of
=20=20Mathematics=20discriminated=20against=20Mr.=20=20Toth=20and=20Ms.=20=
=20Principato
=20=20by
=20=20failing=20to
=20=20provide=20them=20with=20proper=20accommodations=20so=20that=20they=20=
could
=20=20successfully
=20=20complete=20required=20math=20courses=20for=20their=20respective=20deg=
ree
=20=20programs.=20=20The
=20=20violations=20include=20requiring=20the=20students=20to=20use=20an=20
inaccessible
=20=20Web-based
=20=20application=20to=20complete=20homework=20assignments,=20tests,=20and
=20quizzes;
=20=20requiring
=20=20the=20use=20of=20clickers=20that=20cannot=20be=20used=20by=20a=20blin=
d=20person=20to
=20=20respond=20to
=20=20in-class=20questions=20and=20obtain=20bonus=20credit;=20failing=20to=
=20provide
=20=20Braille
=20=20versions=20of=20the=20required=20textbooks=20in=20violation=20of=20ag=
reed-upon
=20=20accommodation
=20=20plans;=20and=20engaging=20in=20retaliatory=20actions=20when=20the=20s=
tudents
=20=20complained=20of
=20=20these=20violations.=20=20In=20all=20cases,=20faculty=20members=20in=20=
the
=20=20Department=20of
=20=20Mathematics=20were=20generally=20uncooperative,=20unhelpful,=20and=20=
even
=20=20hostile,=20and
=20=20did=20not=20provide=20meaningful=20alternative=20methods=20for=20Mr.=
=20=20Toth=20
and
=20=20Ms.
=20=20Principato=20to=20successfully=20complete=20the=20required=20courses.=
=20=20As=20a
=20=20result,=20both
=20=20students=20are=20currently=20unable=20to=20continue=20their=20degree=
=20programs
=20=20and=20find
=20=20their=20careers=20indefinitely=20on=20hold.

=20=20Dr.=20=20Marc=20Maurer,=20President=20of=20the=20National=20Federatio=
n=20of=20the
=20=20Blind,=20said:
=20=20"Discrimination=20against=20blind=20students=20is=20all=20too=20commo=
n,=20but=20
it
=20=20rarely
=20=20stems=20from=20actual=20animus=20towards=20the=20students.=20=20This=
=20case,
=20=20however,=20involves
=20=20the=20repeated,=20deliberate,=20and=20intentional=20disregard=20of=20=
the
=20rights
=20=20of=20these
=20=20two=20students,=20whose=20academic=20records=20have=20now=20suffered
=20=20irreparable=20damage
=20=20and=20who=20have=20suffered=20lost=20opportunities,=20emotional=20dis=
tress,
=20=20embarrassment,
=20=20humiliation,=20and=20retaliation=20by=20university=20officials.=20=20=
The
=20=20National
=20=20Federation=20of=20the=20Blind=20will=20not=20stand=20for=20this=20out=
rageous
=20=20treatment=20of
=20=20blind=20students=20and=20we=20will=20continue=20to=20support=20this=20=
lawsuit=20as
=20=20fully=20as
=20=20necessary=20in=20order=20to=20ensure=20that=20these=20young=20people=
=20are
=20=20compensated=20for=20the
=20=20egregious=20conduct=20of=20faculty=20and=20staff=20in=20FSU's=20Depar=
tment=20of
=20=20Mathematics."

=20=20The=20plaintiffs=20are=20represented=20in=20this=20matter=20by=20Dani=
el=20F.
=20=20Goldstein,=20Sharon
=20=20Krevor-Weisbaum,=20and=20Brooke=20E.=20=20Lierman=20of=20the=20Baltim=
ore=20firm
=20=20Brown,
=20=20Goldstein,=20and=20Levy;=20and=20Matthew=20Dietz=20of=20the=20Miami=20=
firm=20Law
=20=20Offices=20of
=20=20Matthew=20W.=20=20Dietz,=20P.L.

=20=20Beth=20Taurasi
=20=20Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote=20Apex

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