[nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years

[Jessica]

As much as I liked Orlando having it there for 5 years is insane.
From my experience I stayed at both hotels and found Rosen center much more helpful.

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On Jul 14, 2011, at 6:21 PM, David Dodge <daviddod at buffalo.edu> wrote:

> Personally, I have never encountered a more helpful staff in hotels than I
> did in Orlando at Rosen. I have stayed in literally dozens of hotels and
> they were by far the best so far.
> 
> David
> ----------------------------------
> David Dodge
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> University at Buffalo
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> 
> 
> 2011/7/14 Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> 
>> Probably because they got a great deal from Rosen Hotels, who I've heard
>> has really supported NFB and was a sponsor for their tenBroek Law Symposium
>> in May.  I don't know though, just a guess.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>> 
>> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps visually impaired youth in Maryland have the
>> ability to confidently say "I can!" How? Click on this link to learn more
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>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:58:39 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>> 
>> Anmol,
>> Odd, why on earth are they having it in the same city for that long? That
>> hasn't happened before.
>> Do you know if its in the same hotel?
>> Ashley
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anmol Bhatia
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:50 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>> 
>> It was me who sent that message.  2013 to 2018 NFB conventions will be held
>> in Orlando.
>> 
>> Anmol
>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad.  Perhaps
>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze
>> among flowers.
>> Hellen Keller
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Tue, 7/12/11, Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 8:42 PM
>> I didn't send  that message.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>> On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:31 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>> 
>> Humberto,
>> 
>> I thought 2012 would be in Dallas, as I heard from
>> Dr.  Maurer at
>> this year's convention.  Unless you mean 2018's would
>> be in
>> Orlando, making it six years.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities
>> motto)
>> 
>> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps visually impaired youth
>> in
>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How?
>> Click
>> on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>> www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook at I
>> C.A.N.
>> Foundation.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>> 
>> The convention will actually be in Orlando for the next six
>> 
>> years.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Mon, 7/11/11, Rachael Vacanti <revacanti at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Rachael Vacanti <revacanti at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 2:28 PM
>> I agree with Chris and Sherri.?
>> I haven't seen the old schedule, but that's
>> beside the point.?I flew down Saturday and didn't
>> leave until the next
>> Saturday.?You think I'd have time for fun
>> right??Wrong.?I didn't get out
>> of the hotel once.?I meant to go places, like the
>> beach, Citywalk and Bubba
>> Gump Shrimp, but I couldn't get there.?Why??
>> Because there were too many
>> things to do at convention.?Convention was awesome
>> and I had a great time,
>> but I really wanted to go out and explore Florida a bit
>> more.?I looked at
>> the agenda and technically, the first 3 days weren't
>> "required".?General
>> sessions didn't start until Wendsday.
>> 
>> One thing I think might also help convention, is if they
>> announce the state
>> cacus.?I missed mine cause I had only heard about it
>> once and I don't think
>> he even told me where it was.?The states should get
>> them sorted out before
>> convention and email their state this is when and where
>> it
>> is.?I know that
>> not everything can be perfect at a thing like this, but
>> they did a very good
>> job.?For my first time, it was pretty good.
>> 
>> Rachael
>> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:00:41 -0400
>> From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>> To: NABS list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,
>> NFBMD list <nfbmd at nfbnet.org>,
>> NFB
>> ????history list <nfb-history at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nabs-l] [Blindtlk] Convention in Orlando for
>> 5 years
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>> 
>> ?---- Original Message ------
>> From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 19:59:44 -0400
>> 
>> It was announced at the convention that conventions
>> from 2013
>> through 2017
>> will be held in Orlando.?I wish we could extend
>> the length of
>> the convention
>> back to how it was and NFB would
>> organize tours for Wednesday afternoon.?That
>> way, people could
>> get excited
>> about Orlando and have time to go places.?I
>> liked the old
>> schedule much
>> better.?If we are going to keep people here for
>> five years in a
>> row, we need
>> to give them ample opportunity to take advantage of
>> all there is
>> to do in
>> Orlando.?Besides, I like the banquet the night
>> before the last
>> day of
>> convention.
>> 
>> 
>> Sherri Brun
>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making
>> other
>> plans." John
>> Lennon
>> 
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>> 
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:07:57 -0400
>> From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> ????list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about brail to word
>> program?
>> Message-ID: <4e19dc7c.4f76e50a.0805.**ffffb9de at mx.google.com<4e19dc7c.4f76e50a.0805.ffffb9de at mx.google.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1;
>> format=flowed
>> 
>> You could also join the BrailleNote list, where users
>> of the
>> BrailleNote can talk about tips and tricks regarding
>> the BN and
>> ask questions when they're having technical
>> problems.?Here's the
>> link:
>> www.list.humanware.com/**mailman/listinfo/braillenote<http://www.list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote>
>> .?
>> In
>> the mean time, if you'd like, I can post your question
>> to the BN
>> list and forward you any responses off list.?
>> Hope this helps!
>> 
>> ?Chris
>> 
>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp
>> Abilities motto)
>> 
>> The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually impaired
>> youth in
>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!"
>> How? Click
>> on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>> www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook at I
>> C.A.N.
>> Foundation.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ?Sent from my BrailleNote
>> 
>> ?----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 22:54:22 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about brail to word
>> program?
>> 
>> Are you trying to convert the Braille Note native
>> format
>> documents into word
>> documents.?If you want to do so, you will have
>> to use your
>> Braille note to
>> do it because there is no program that will translate
>> and convert
>> Keyword
>> Braille format (kwb) documents into Microsoft word
>> (.doc)
>> documents, unless
>> you want to convert you .kwb files into .BRF files,
>> and then use
>> a program
>> in your PC to convert .BRF files into .doc files--you
>> will need
>> Duxbury
>> Braille translator (which costs about $900 for the
>> license if you
>> don't
>> already have it--you can although try it for free but
>> some
>> functions will be
>> disabled)
>> I hope this was helpful to you.?Feel free to
>> send another
>> message off list
>> if you can and I will give you more instructions--this
>> is good
>> practice for
>> me because I will be a teacher of the blind teaching
>> assistive
>> technology.
>> Cheers,?Humberto
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>> On Behalf
>> Of Andi
>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:27 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] question about brail to word
>> program?
>> 
>> I am sure this is a silly question but I have to
>> ask.?I use to
>> use my brail
>> 
>> note quite a bit but now I use my laptop more, I was
>> wondering if
>> there is a
>> 
>> program to change the files from the brail document to
>> a word
>> document?
>> Please keep in mind I am not very tech savvy so the
>> simpaler to
>> use the
>> better, but I still want it to do a good job.?
>> thank you so much
>> for your
>> help.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 1:47 PM
>> To: promotion-technology at nfbnet.**org <promotion-technology at nfbnet.org>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:20:18 -0400
>> From: Josh Gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> ????list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [acb-l] polling place access
>> issues to this day
>> ????in mi
>> Message-ID: <4e19ed7d.907fe50a.6655.**ffffc150 at mx.google.com<4e19ed7d.907fe50a.6655.ffffc150 at mx.google.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1;
>> format=flowed
>> 
>> Hi,
>> OK, my thoughts.?They are, at the moment, each
>> other's
>> competetors/enemies/whatever.?**So, at the moment
>> anyway, I doubt
>> it.
>> Best,
>> Josh
>> 
>> sent from my Apex
>> Email: joshkart12 at gmail.com
>> 
>> ?----- Original Message -----
>> From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:30:00 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [acb-l] polling place access
>> issues to this
>> day in mi
>> 
>> I forwarded this because since the NFB is working to
>> ensure
>> accessible voting and was the driving force behind the
>> Help
>> America Vote Act (HAVA.) So, we might be able to work
>> jointly
>> with ACB on this.?What does
>> everyone think?
>> ?Chris
>> 
>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp
>> Abilities motto)
>> 
>> The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually impaired
>> youth in
>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!"
>> How? Click
>> on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>> www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook at I
>> C.A.N.
>> Foundation.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ?Sent from my BrailleNote
>> 
>> ?----- Original Message -----
>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.**edu<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 20:25:02 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [acb-l] polling place access
>> issues to this
>> day in mi
>> 
>> Chris, why are you forwarding stuff from the ACB?
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> 
>> On 7/8/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> ?Thoughts on this?
>> 
>> ?Chris
>> 
>> ?"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp
>> Abilities
>> motto)
>> 
>> ?The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually
>> impaired youth in
>> ?Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I
>> can!" How? Click
>> ?on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>> ?www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook
>> at I C.A.N.
>> ?Foundation.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ?Sent from my BrailleNote
>> 
>> ?---- Original Message ------
>> ?From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net
>> ?Subject: [acb-l] polling place access issues to
>> this day in mi
>> ?Date sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:05:31 -0400
>> 
>> ?A Call to Action ?
>> 
>> ?Unfinished Business to Ensure Michigan Voters
>> with Disabilities
>> ?Have Access to the Polls in 2012
>> 
>> ?A Public Report on
>> ?Polling Place
>> 
>> ?Accessibility in Michigan
>> 
>> ?Public Report by
>> 
>> ?Michigan Protection and Advocacy Service, Inc.
>> 
>> ?2011
>> 
>> ?Acknowledgements
>> 
>> ?Michigan Protection and Advocacy Service (MPAS)
>> is Michigan?
>> ?designated agency to advocate and protect the
>> legal rights of
>> ?persons with disabilities, mandated
>> ?by federal and state law.?MPAS receives
>> funding from the
>> ?Administration on Developmental Disabilities,
>> the center for
>> ?Mental Health Services ?Substance
>> ?Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration,
>> the
>> ?Rehabilitation Services Administration, the
>> Social Security
>> ?Administration, the State of Michigan
>> ?and from private donations.
>> 
>> ?Funding for this report has been made possible
>> through the U.S.
>> ?Department of Health and Human Services,
>> Administration for
>> ?Children and Families, and the
>> ?Administration on Developmental
>> Disabilities.?The contents are
>> ?the sole responsibility of the author and do not
>> necessarily
>> ?represent the official views
>> ?of the U.S.?Department of Health and Human
>> Services.
>> 
>> ?2011 by Michigan Protection and Advocacy
>> Service, Inc.?This
>> ?publication may be reproduced in part or in its
>> entirety for
>> ?noncommercial purposes as long
>> ?as appropriate credit is given.
>> 
>> ?Table of Contents
>> 
>> ?Executive
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Summary.......................**..............................**.....
>> ?
>> ..............................**.....................5
>> 
>> ?Midterm
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Report........................**..............................**.....
>> ?
>> 
>> ..............................**...........................6
>> 
>> ?Michigan? Polling Place Accessibility
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Project.......................**..............................**.....
>> ?.........7
>> 
>> ?Communicating Accessibility Problems with
>> Election
>> ?
>> Officials.....................**.................10
>> 
>> ?Next
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Steps.........................**..............................**.....
>> ?
>> 
>> ..............................**..............................**..11
>> 
>> ?In
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Summary.......................**..............................**.....
>> ?
>> 
>> ..............................**..............................**..11
>> 
>> ?Accessibility Rate Per
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> County........................**..............................**.....
>> ?.............................**...13
>> 
>> ?Executive Summary
>> 
>> ?In Michigan, voters with disabilities face
>> obstacles at voting
>> ?locations often because their polling place
>> lacks physical
>> ?accessibility.?The Help America
>> ?Vote Act (HAVA) acknowledged the unique
>> obstacles faced by
>> voters
>> ?with disabilities and authorized funding for the
>> federally
>> ?mandated Protection and Advocacy
>> ?Voting Access programs (PAVA) to help remove
>> barriers.
>> ?Unfortunately, this vital mandate has been
>> targeted for
>> ?elimination in the President? proposed
>> ?2012 budget.
>> 
>> ?HAVA charged Michigan Protection and Advocacy
>> Service, (MPAS),
>> ?and other Protection & Advocacy agencies
>> with helping to ensure
>> ?the full participation of
>> ?individuals with disabilities in the electoral
>> process,
>> including
>> ?registering to vote, casting a ballot, and
>> accessing polling
>> ?places.
>> 
>> ?The PAVA program at MPAS is designed to ensure
>> that every
>> ?eligible Michigan resident receives equal access
>> to their
>> polling
>> ?location and has the opportunity
>> ?to cast an independent secret ballot.?MPAS
>> staff members are on
>> ?the ground providing advice, technical
>> assistance, and training
>> ?to election officials about
>> ?voting accessibility across the spectrum of
>> disabilities.?The
>> ?agency also provides outreach and training to
>> voters with
>> ?disabilities, poll workers, and
>> ?service providers.?MPAS and the Secretary
>> of State of Michigan
>> ?partnered over the past six years working toward
>> this goal,
>> which
>> ?has been effective in
>> ?increasing physical access to polling locations
>> throughout
>> ?Michigan.
>> 
>> ?Voting is a fundamental right protected by the
>> United States
>> ?Constitution, upheld by the Supreme Court and
>> subject to intense
>> ?public scrutiny each election
>> ?cycle.?Provisions within these protections
>> prohibit
>> ?discrimination against people with disabilities
>> in the electoral
>> ?process.?Exercising their Constitutional
>> ?right, however, has continued to be a challenge
>> for individuals
>> ?with disabilities despite changes made to
>> federal and state laws
>> ?intended to ensure full
>> ?participation.
>> 
>> ?Key Summary
>> 
>> ???젨잻isability advocates
>> have visited 95% (3,457) and
>> ?reviewed the exterior of polling locations in
>> Michigan.
>> 
>> ???젨쟖pon initial review,
>> Michigan Protection and Advocacy
>> ?Service found that only 75% of 3,457 Michigan
>> polling places
>> were
>> ?compliant under the Americans
>> ?with Disabilities Act.
>> 
>> ???젨잸fter working with
>> state and local officials, it is
>> ?anticipated that Michigan? accessibility rate
>> will be increased
>> ?to 90% in 2012.
>> 
>> ???젨쟏f the locations that
>> were inaccessible, 60% had one
>> ?barrier, 30% had two types of barriers, and 6%
>> had three or more
>> ?types of barriers.
>> 
>> ???젨쟏nly six of the 84
>> counties in Michigan were 100%
>> ?physically accessible upon initial visit.
>> 
>> ???젨쟋PAS continues to
>> receive complaints regarding the
>> ?AutoMARK, Michigan? accessible ballot marking
>> device.
>> 
>> ?Michigan has made great strides toward
>> accessibility at the
>> ?polls.?This report will highlight the
>> steps taken to ensure
>> that
>> ?all polling locations throughout
>> ?Michigan are accessible to voters with
>> disabilities.?In
>> ?addition, the report will offer recommendations
>> for Michigan to
>> ?achieve and maintain an accessibility
>> ?rate of 100%.
>> 
>> ?2010 Mid Term Report
>> 
>> ?Acknowledging widespread irregularity throughout
>> the country,
>> ?Congress passed the Help America Vote Act (HAVA)
>> in 2002.?HAVA
>> ?included sweeping legislation
>> ?intended to modernize the electoral system for
>> all voters,
>> ?including those with disabilities.?The
>> Help America Vote Act
>> ?reinforced the application of
>> ?Title II of the Americans with Disabilities Act
>> and Section 504
>> ?of the Rehabilitation Act.?Furthermore, in
>> 2004, Michigan
>> ?lawmakers amended Michigan election
>> ?law (Public Act 92 of 2004) to require the
>> removal of physical
>> ?barriers at polling locations.?
>> Irrespective of both federal and
>> ?state law, 25% of Michigan's
>> ?voting locations continued to be inaccessible
>> for the November
>> ?2010 general election.?To achieve an
>> all-encompassing voting
>> ?standard for the fifty states,
>> ?HAVA included two key components for the
>> disability community:
>> 
>> ???젨잸ll polling places
>> must have at least one voting system
>> ?which allows all citizens to cast a ballot
>> privately and
>> ?independently, whether or not one
>> ?has a disability.
>> 
>> ???젨쟔tates must ensure
>> accessibility at all public polling
>> ?places in a manner compliant with the Americans
>> with
>> Disabilities
>> ?Act (ADA).
>> 
>> ?Accessible Voting System
>> 
>> ?In 2004, the disability community and the
>> Michigan Secretary of
>> ?State? Bureau of Elections (BOE) carefully
>> assessing which
>> ?accessible device would best
>> ?fit the needs of Michigan voters, and in 2006
>> selected the
>> ?AutoMARK.?The AutoMARK is an accessible
>> ballot marking device
>> ?that can be used by all voters
>> ?with or without disabilities.
>> 
>> ?Although every polling location is equipped with
>> the AutoMARK,
>> ?each municipality is responsible for making sure
>> it is set up
>> and
>> ?operating properly.?Unfortunately,
>> ?MPAS continues to receive complaints about the
>> AutoMARK.?Voter
>> ?complaints have included the following:?
>> the AutoMARK was boxed
>> ?up on Election Day, unplugged,
>> ?jammed up, turned off, or set up so other voters
>> could see the
>> ??ecret?ballot.?Complaints concerning
>> jammed ballots have been
>> ?greatly reduced since the
>> ?last round of updates were completed.?
>> Because the AutoMARK is
>> ?used only on Election Day, MPAS relies on voter
>> feedback to
>> ?correct these kinds of problems.
>> ?MPAS continues to monitor and respond to
>> complaints as they
>> ?arise.
>> 
>> ?Accessible Polling Places
>> 
>> ?Under HAVA, the federal government allocated
>> money to assist
>> with
>> ?the purchase of accessible equipment like the
>> AutoMARK, but also
>> ?to help municipalities
>> ?make their polling places physically
>> accessible.?Congress
>> ?recognized that in order for people to use the
>> accessible voting
>> ?machines, the building must
>> ?also be accessible so voters can access the
>> polling location and
>> ?voting equipment.?It is the local election
>> officials?
>> ?responsibility to make sure all
>> ?polling locations are accessible on Election
>> Day.?To help cover
>> ?the expense for removing barriers at polling
>> locations, the
>> ?Michigan BOE administers a
>> ?grant program called Access for All, under the
>> U.S.?Department
>> ?of Health and Human Services with funding
>> allocated through
>> HAVA,
>> ?to help the state comply
>> ?with HAVA.?In most circumstances, the
>> Access for All grants
>> ?cover all costs associated with accessibility
>> upgrades for
>> ?polling locations.
>> 
>> ?When Michigan? State Plan to implement
>> provisions under HAVA
>> was
>> ?initiated in 2004, municipal clerks were
>> required to complete an
>> ?accessibility checklist
>> ?to determine whether or not their locations were
>> accessible.
>> ?This was one of the state? first attempts to
>> gather information
>> ?on Michigan? polling place
>> ?accessibility.?During this time, MPAS and
>> other organizations
>> ?were working closely with individual election
>> officials on
>> ?polling location reviews and
>> ?were also training the municipal clerks on the
>> accessibility
>> ?requirements.?MPAS also spent a
>> considerable amount of time
>> ?assisting clerks with assessing
>> ?the accessibility of their polling locations and
>> helping them
>> ?apply for Access for All grant money.?MPAS
>> found that the
>> ?accessibility data provided by
>> ?clerks was not, in certain instances, wholly
>> reliable.
>> 
>> ?MPAS brought this to the Bureau of Election?
>> (BOE) attention
>> and
>> ?shared independent accessibility reviews with
>> them.?The BOE has
>> ?since increased efforts
>> ?to ensure the accuracy of reporting by improving
>> communication
>> ?and requiring additional documentation from the
>> clerks.
>> 
>> ?In 2008, MPAS started to assess municipal
>> polling locations
>> ?randomly, without notifying the election
>> official in advance.
>> ?After compiling this data on
>> ?polling locations statewide, the systemic issue
>> of
>> ?inaccessibility became a heightened
>> concern.?Once these
>> concerns
>> ?were communicated to the Bureau of
>> ?Elections, they backed a new initiative in 2010
>> dramatically
>> ?increasing their involvement in the advancement
>> of polling place
>> ?accessibility.
>> 
>> ?This same year, the federal government began
>> reviewing how the
>> ?states were spending HAVA funds.?This
>> fueled speculation that
>> ?the federal government would
>> ?eliminate the monies available under HAVA, since
>> some states had
>> ?not spent their money, rather placing it in an
>> account and
>> ?allowing the funds to gain
>> ?interest.?Concerned that Congress would
>> pull the allocated
>> funds
>> ?completely, which would prevent municipalities
>> from accessing
>> ?money to make polling places
>> ?accessible, MPAS, along with the Michigan Bureau
>> of Elections,
>> ?embarked on a project to ensure 100%
>> accessibility at all
>> ?Michigan polling places.
>> 
>> ?Michigan? Polling Place Accessibility Project
>> 
>> ?In 2010, Michigan started building the framework
>> of a statewide
>> ?plan to reach 100% polling place
>> accessibility.?MPAS and the
>> ?Bureau of Elections strengthened
>> ?their partnership in order to achieve this
>> goal.?Within this
>> ?plan, MPAS would review the exterior of all
>> locations throughout
>> ?the state.?Michigan has
>> ?approximately 3,600 polling places in
>> total.?MPAS had already
>> ?gathered information on 530 polling places prior
>> to 2010,
>> ?therefore, did not revisit those
>> ?locations (some were initially accessible and
>> others MPAS worked
>> ?closely with clerks to improve
>> accessibility.?MPAS is still
>> ?working with clerks to bring
>> ?the remaining 57 of the 530 polling locations
>> into compliance).
>> ?MPAS was able to visit the remaining 2,927
>> polling locations in
>> ?2010.
>> 
>> ?Overall, MPAS conducted on-site reviews of at
>> least 95% of the
>> ?polling places in Michigan.
>> 
>> ?The on-site reviews conducted in 2010, exposed
>> nearly 25% of the
>> ?polling places that remained physically
>> inaccessible as required
>> ?by the Americans with
>> ?Disabilities Accessibility Guidelines.
>> 
>> ?Of the 3,457 polling locations noted above,
>> 2,927 were assessed
>> ?between May-August 2010.?Using the ADAAG
>> as a benchmark to
>> ?determine physical accessibility,
>> ?over 800 polling locations within the 2,927
>> locations visited,
>> ?had physical barriers failing to comply with the
>> ADAAG ?
>> barriers
>> ?that create potential
>> ?difficulties to voters with disabilities on
>> Election Day.
>> 
>> ?Barriers can prevent people with disabilities
>> from fully
>> ?participating in all aspects of society because
>> of their
>> ?disability.?This might include
>> architectural
>> ?barriers, physical barriers, communication
>> barriers, attitudinal
>> ?barriers, cultural barriers, etc.?
>> Throughout this project,
>> MPAS?
>> ?reviews focused primarily
>> ?on physical and external barriers, which are
>> defined as
>> something
>> ?material that blocks passage.?Physical
>> barriers addressed in
>> ?this report include objects
>> ?in the environment such as inaccessible doors or
>> doorways,
>> ?inaccessible elevators or lack thereof,
>> inaccessible door
>> ?hardware, inaccessible parking, etc.
>> 
>> ?Among the 2,927 polling locations visited in
>> 2010, 28% did not
>> ?meet accessibility standards.?Based on
>> discussions with the BOE
>> ?in 2008, when MPAS completed
>> ?the unannounced visits, clerks were not only
>> notified with a
>> ?letter from MPAS concerning accessibility, but
>> they were also
>> ?notified by the Bureau of Elections.
>> ?MPAS and the BOE required prompt reply about the
>> municipalities
>> ?plans to meet ADA requirements.?The
>> letters contained a
>> ?photograph of the problem area(s),
>> ?along with the appropriate ADAAG citation.?
>> Within a five month
>> ?period, letters were sent to over 440
>> municipalities concerning
>> ?approximately 800 polling
>> ?locations.
>> 
>> ?As shown below, 28% of the polling places
>> visited in 2010 had
>> ?some type of physical barrier present at the
>> time of review.
>> 
>> ?The following chart highlights the most common
>> number of
>> physical
>> ?barriers discovered at each location.
>> 
>> ?A majority of the locations reviewed had only
>> one physical
>> ?barrier present.?While the largest and
>> most frequent problem
>> was
>> ?related to parking, the types
>> ?of barriers at each location varied as shown in
>> the following
>> ?chart.
>> 
>> ?Text Box: Parking Signs: locations that had
>> accessible parking
>> ?but no signs posted?Parking:?
>> locations that had no parking
>> ?designated or noncompliant access
>> ?aisles?Pathway:?barriers that
>> existed between access aisles
>> and
>> ?entryway?Entrance:?problems such as
>> door width, door
>> ?thresholds, door hardware, vestibules,
>> ?etc.?Ramps/Curbs: problems with curb cuts,
>> ramps, handrails,
>> ?thresholds greater than 1 inch, etc.
>> 
>> ?Communicating Accessibility Problems with
>> Election Officials
>> 
>> ?After completing the on-site reviews, MPAS
>> notified municipal
>> ?clerks of locations where barriers were
>> discovered.?Within a
>> ?four-month period, over 440
>> ?letters were sent to election officials.?
>> By the end of 2010,
>> 88%
>> ?of those clerks responded back to MPAS with a
>> plan of
>> correction.
>> ?In addition, MPAS
>> ?provided technical assistance to the election
>> officials on how
>> to
>> ?improve access to their polling location in
>> order to come into
>> ?compliance.젨잹ased on
>> ?the responses received from clerks, 43% informed
>> us they were
>> ?would make the changes required; 31% corrected
>> the barriers at
>> ?the polling locations; 9%
>> ?were going to apply for Access for All grant;
>> and the remaining
>> ?responses varied from clerk using temporary
>> equipment.
>> 
>> ?When a clerk informed MAPS that the work was
>> completed, MPAS
>> ?required documentation from each clerk proving
>> or stating that
>> ?the work had been completed,
>> ?including photographs and/or copies of purchase
>> orders.?A
>> ?majority of the clerks responded either with a
>> plan of
>> correction
>> ?for spring 2011 or with a
>> ?statement that the work was completed.?
>> MPAS is still waiting
>> for
>> ?some clerks to confirm that the work was done
>> sufficiently.
>> Once
>> ?the removal of barriers
>> ?at these locations has been verified, MPAS
>> expects Michigan?
>> ?polling place accessibility rate to rise to
>> nearly 90 % ?--
>> ?one of the highest in the nation.
>> ?There remains, however, substantial work to be
>> completed in the
>> ?city of Detroit in order to reach this
>> goal.?The remaining 12%
>> ?of clerks, who did not respond
>> ?to MPAS or the Bureau of Election with a plan of
>> correction,
>> will
>> ?become a 2011 priority in order to attain 100%
>> accessibility.
>> 
>> ?NEXT STEPS
>> 
>> ?While the focus of this report has been on
>> reaching the 90%
>> ?accessibility rate, there would still be
>> approximately 10% of
>> ?polling locations in Michigan
>> ?that are not accessible to all voters.?
>> Some clerks disagree
>> with
>> ?the findings and MPAS is working with those
>> clerks.
>> 
>> ?In 2011, MPAS will be re-visiting a number of
>> polling locations
>> ?that are still recorded as being inaccessible,
>> breaking them
>> into
>> ?three categories: failure
>> ?to communicate; work promised but documentation
>> still needed;
>> and
>> ?locations requiring review by MPAS.
>> 
>> ?MPAS will focus attention on election officials
>> who have failed
>> ?to respond to MPAS communication attempts.?
>> This may involve
>> ?revisiting the location (some
>> ?clerks correct the problem even when they fail
>> to respond),
>> ?attending city council/township meetings, filing
>> official HAVA
>> ?complaints, and/or pursuing
>> ?legal action under different funding
>> sources.?MPAS?goal has
>> ?always been to educate clerks and assist them
>> with improving
>> ?access first by proposing solutions
>> ?to removing barriers.
>> 
>> ?In 2011, MPAS will also direct its attention to
>> monitoring the
>> ?correction plans that election officials have
>> submitted to
>> ensure
>> ?that barriers are removed.
>> ?MPAS will review the remaining 150 polling
>> locations that have
>> ?not been visited yet.
>> 
>> ?In Summary
>> 
>> ?Throughout the 2010 project, the partnership
>> between MPAS and
>> the
>> ?Michigan Bureau of Elections (BOE) was
>> crucial.?The state
>> ?reinforced the necessity of
>> ?accessible elections.?They followed up
>> with each municipality
>> ?whose polling place was noted as being
>> inaccessible in order to
>> ?determine the jurisdiction's
>> ?planned course of action.?In addition, the
>> BOE coordinated and
>> ?extended Michigan's polling place improvement
>> grant well into
>> the
>> ?fall to assist municipalities
>> ?in removing barriers to voting at no cost.
>> 
>> ?Local election officials can either upgrade
>> their polling places
>> ?(with or without grant funds), or relocate the
>> polling place to
>> ?an accessible site.?The
>> ?Bureau of Elections reports that due to the 2010
>> project, they
>> ?have seen a large increase in the number of
>> municipalities
>> ?applying for grant money.?In
>> ?an effort to assist with the project, the BOE
>> extended the
>> ?typical grant cycle by two months, giving clerks
>> additional
>> ?opportunity to respond to MPAS?
>> ?letter and correct the problem(s) by using grant
>> funds.?The
>> ?Michigan Bureau of Elections received 74 grant
>> applications, the
>> ?largest amount ever received
>> ?in one grant cycle.?Of those 74 grant
>> applications, 66
>> ?applicants received letters from MPAS seeking a
>> plan of
>> ?correction - 89% of those who applied.
>> ?A large number of municipalities have pledged to
>> apply when the
>> ?next grant period opens in early 2011.
>> 
>> ?If the HAVA/PAVA program survives the President?
>> proposed
>> budget
>> ?cuts, MPAS looks forward to continuing the
>> partnership with the
>> ?Secretary of State, ensuring
>> ?all elections are accessible to all
>> voters.?Additionally, MPAS
>> ?encourages clerks to reach out to local
>> disability groups for
>> ?future trainings.?Listed
>> ?below are additional recommendations moving
>> forward.
>> 
>> ?Summary/Recommendations:
>> 
>> ???젨쟊ocal clerks must be
>> required to notify the Bureau of
>> ?Elections prior to relocating polling places.
>> 
>> ???젨잸ccessibility checks
>> should be completed when clerks
>> ?change polling locations, to verify
>> accessibility.?Reports
>> (with
>> ?photographs) should be submitted
>> ?to the Bureau of Elections.
>> 
>> ???젨쟍ew polling locations
>> must be required to adhere to the
>> ?Americans with Disabilities Act Accessibility
>> Guidelines.
>> 
>> ???젨쟕he advisory committee
>> in charge of amending the State
>> ?Plan (under HAVA) should re-convene and identify
>> ways to hold
>> ?clerks accountable and implement
>> ?model oversight programs.
>> 
>> ???젨잸ccess for All grant
>> money should be available
>> throughout
>> ?the year, so accessibility problems can be
>> addressed anytime
>> they
>> ?arise.
>> 
>> ???젨쟕he Bureau of
>> Elections and local clerks should continue
>> ?working with disability advocacy organizations
>> to complete
>> ?year-round polling place accessibility
>> ?audits and training to clerks.
>> 
>> ?Accessibility Rate by County
>> 
>> ?Table with 9 columns and 85 rows
>> 
>> ?County
>> 
>> ?Polling Locations
>> 
>> ?Visited
>> 
>> ?Accessible
>> 
>> ?Barriers Discovered
>> 
>> ?Percent Visited
>> 
>> ?% Accessible of those Visited
>> 
>> ?Now Complete
>> 
>> ?% Now Accessible
>> 
>> ?Alcona
>> 
>> ?12
>> 
>> ?12
>> 
>> ?8
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?67%
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?92%
>> 
>> ?Alger
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?50%
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?Allegan
>> 
>> ?37
>> 
>> ?37
>> 
>> ?35
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?95%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?97%
>> 
>> ?Alpena
>> 
>> ?15
>> 
>> ?15
>> 
>> ?8
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?53%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?60%
>> 
>> ?Antrim
>> 
>> ?15
>> 
>> ?15
>> 
>> ?9
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?60%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?73%
>> 
>> ?Arenac
>> 
>> ?14
>> 
>> ?14
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?71%
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?93%
>> 
>> ?Baraga
>> 
>> ?8
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?75%
>> 
>> ?17%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?33%
>> 
>> ?Barry
>> 
>> ?23
>> 
>> ?23
>> 
>> ?18
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?78%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?83%
>> 
>> ?Bay
>> 
>> ?49
>> 
>> ?48
>> 
>> ?36
>> 
>> ?12
>> 
>> ?98%
>> 
>> ?75%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?77%
>> 
>> ?Benzie
>> 
>> ?13
>> 
>> ?13
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?46%
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?77%
>> 
>> ?Berrien
>> 
>> ?57
>> 
>> ?57
>> 
>> ?43
>> 
>> ?14
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?75%
>> 
>> ?8
>> 
>> ?89%
>> 
>> ?Branch
>> 
>> ?18
>> 
>> ?17
>> 
>> ?9
>> 
>> ?8
>> 
>> ?94%
>> 
>> ?53%
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?88%
>> 
>> ?Calhoun
>> 
>> ?46
>> 
>> ?43
>> 
>> ?34
>> 
>> ?9
>> 
>> ?93%
>> 
>> ?79%
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?86%
>> 
>> ?Cass
>> 
>> ?19
>> 
>> ?19
>> 
>> ?12
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?63%
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?95%
>> 
>> ?Charlevoix
>> 
>> ?18
>> 
>> ?16
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?89%
>> 
>> ?63%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?69%
>> 
>> ?Cheboygan
>> 
>> ?20
>> 
>> ?20
>> 
>> ?14
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?70%
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?95%
>> 
>> ?Chippewa
>> 
>> ?19
>> 
>> ?18
>> 
>> ?13
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?95%
>> 
>> ?72%
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?94%
>> 
>> ?Clare
>> 
>> ?19
>> 
>> ?16
>> 
>> ?13
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?84%
>> 
>> ?81%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?94%
>> 
>> ?Clinton
>> 
>> ?28
>> 
>> ?26
>> 
>> ?24
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?93%
>> 
>> ?92%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?96%
>> 
>> ?Crawford
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?86%
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?86%
>> 
>> ?Delta
>> 
>> ?21
>> 
>> ?20
>> 
>> ?11
>> 
>> ?9
>> 
>> ?95%
>> 
>> ?55%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?60%
>> 
>> ?Dickinson
>> 
>> ?15
>> 
>> ?15
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?9
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?40%
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?73%
>> 
>> ?Eaton
>> 
>> ?36
>> 
>> ?36
>> 
>> ?28
>> 
>> ?8
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?78%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?83%
>> 
>> ?Emmet
>> 
>> ?19
>> 
>> ?19
>> 
>> ?12
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?63%
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?89%
>> 
>> ?Genesee
>> 
>> ?119
>> 
>> ?109
>> 
>> ?84
>> 
>> ?25
>> 
>> ?92%
>> 
>> ?77%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?79%
>> 
>> ?Gladwin
>> 
>> ?17
>> 
>> ?17
>> 
>> ?11
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?65%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?71%
>> 
>> ?Gogebic
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?70%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?90%
>> 
>> ?Grand Traverse
>> 
>> ?28
>> 
>> ?27
>> 
>> ?27
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?96%
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?Gratiot
>> 
>> ?23
>> 
>> ?23
>> 
>> ?16
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?70%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?78%
>> 
>> ?Hillsdale
>> 
>> ?21
>> 
>> ?21
>> 
>> ?12
>> 
>> ?9
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?57%
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?71%
>> 
>> ?Houghton
>> 
>> ?31
>> 
>> ?22
>> 
>> ?9
>> 
>> ?13
>> 
>> ?71%
>> 
>> ?41%
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?64%
>> 
>> ?Huron
>> 
>> ?30
>> 
>> ?29
>> 
>> ?18
>> 
>> ?11
>> 
>> ?97%
>> 
>> ?62%
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?79%
>> 
>> ?Ingham
>> 
>> ?95
>> 
>> ?81
>> 
>> ?78
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?85%
>> 
>> ?96%
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?96%
>> 
>> ?Ionia
>> 
>> ?22
>> 
>> ?22
>> 
>> ?17
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?77%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?82%
>> 
>> ?Iosco
>> 
>> ?15
>> 
>> ?15
>> 
>> ?14
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?93%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?Iron
>> 
>> ?12
>> 
>> ?12
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?50%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?67%
>> 
>> ?Isabella
>> 
>> ?25
>> 
>> ?25
>> 
>> ?19
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?76%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?80%
>> 
>> ?Jackson
>> 
>> ?47
>> 
>> ?45
>> 
>> ?34
>> 
>> ?11
>> 
>> ?96%
>> 
>> ?76%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?80%
>> 
>> ?Kalamazoo
>> 
>> ?97
>> 
>> ?97
>> 
>> ?79
>> 
>> ?18
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?81%
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?89%
>> 
>> ?Kalkaska
>> 
>> ?12
>> 
>> ?12
>> 
>> ?8
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?67%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?75%
>> 
>> ?Kent
>> 
>> ?209
>> 
>> ?207
>> 
>> ?174
>> 
>> ?33
>> 
>> ?99%
>> 
>> ?84%
>> 
>> ?11
>> 
>> ?89%
>> 
>> ?Keweenaw
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?80%
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?Lake
>> 
>> ?15
>> 
>> ?15
>> 
>> ?8
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?53%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?67%
>> 
>> ?Lapeer
>> 
>> ?24
>> 
>> ?24
>> 
>> ?20
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?83%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?92%
>> 
>> ?Leelanau
>> 
>> ?13
>> 
>> ?13
>> 
>> ?8
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?62%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?69%
>> 
>> ?Lenawee
>> 
>> ?30
>> 
>> ?30
>> 
>> ?23
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?77%
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?90%
>> 
>> ?Livingston
>> 
>> ?48
>> 
>> ?45
>> 
>> ?35
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?94%
>> 
>> ?78%
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?78%
>> 
>> ?Luce
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?75%
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?75%
>> 
>> ?Mackinac
>> 
>> ?13
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?77%
>> 
>> ?50%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?60%
>> 
>> ?Macomb
>> 
>> ?235
>> 
>> ?233
>> 
>> ?188
>> 
>> ?45
>> 
>> ?99%
>> 
>> ?81%
>> 
>> ?17
>> 
>> ?88%
>> 
>> ?Manistee
>> 
>> ?15
>> 
>> ?15
>> 
>> ?11
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?73%
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?93%
>> 
>> ?Marquette
>> 
>> ?29
>> 
>> ?29
>> 
>> ?16
>> 
>> ?13
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?55%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?59%
>> 
>> ?Mason
>> 
>> ?23
>> 
>> ?23
>> 
>> ?15
>> 
>> ?8
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?65%
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?78%
>> 
>> ?Mecosta
>> 
>> ?22
>> 
>> ?22
>> 
>> ?18
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?82%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?86%
>> 
>> ?Menominee
>> 
>> ?16
>> 
>> ?14
>> 
>> ?8
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?88%
>> 
>> ?57%
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?57%
>> 
>> ?Midland
>> 
>> ?38
>> 
>> ?29
>> 
>> ?22
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?76%
>> 
>> ?76%
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?90%
>> 
>> ?Missaukee
>> 
>> ?17
>> 
>> ?17
>> 
>> ?14
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?82%
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?Monroe
>> 
>> ?42
>> 
>> ?36
>> 
>> ?27
>> 
>> ?9
>> 
>> ?86%
>> 
>> ?75%
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?89%
>> 
>> ?Montcalm
>> 
>> ?26
>> 
>> ?25
>> 
>> ?21
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?96%
>> 
>> ?84%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?92%
>> 
>> ?Montmorency
>> 
>> ?9
>> 
>> ?9
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?78%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?89%
>> 
>> ?Muskegon
>> 
>> ?72
>> 
>> ?71
>> 
>> ?68
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?99%
>> 
>> ?96%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?99%
>> 
>> ?Newaygo
>> 
>> ?28
>> 
>> ?28
>> 
>> ?22
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?79%
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?89%
>> 
>> ?Oakland
>> 
>> ?410
>> 
>> ?380
>> 
>> ?292
>> 
>> ?88
>> 
>> ?93%
>> 
>> ?77%
>> 
>> ?46
>> 
>> ?89%
>> 
>> ?Oceana
>> 
>> ?18
>> 
>> ?18
>> 
>> ?12
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?67%
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?67%
>> 
>> ?Ogemaw
>> 
>> ?16
>> 
>> ?16
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?63%
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?94%
>> 
>> ?Ontonagon
>> 
>> ?14
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?71%
>> 
>> ?30%
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?30%
>> 
>> ?Osceola
>> 
>> ?18
>> 
>> ?18
>> 
>> ?14
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?78%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?89%
>> 
>> ?Oscoda
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?67%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?83%
>> 
>> ?Otsego
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?7
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?70%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?90%
>> 
>> ?Ottawa
>> 
>> ?88
>> 
>> ?88
>> 
>> ?79
>> 
>> ?9
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?90%
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?95%
>> 
>> ?Presque Isle
>> 
>> ?16
>> 
>> ?16
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?63%
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?81%
>> 
>> ?Roscommon
>> 
>> ?11
>> 
>> ?11
>> 
>> ?11
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?Saginaw
>> 
>> ?75
>> 
>> ?75
>> 
>> ?61
>> 
>> ?14
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?81%
>> 
>> ?8
>> 
>> ?92%
>> 
>> ?Sanilac
>> 
>> ?30
>> 
>> ?30
>> 
>> ?26
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?87%
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?97%
>> 
>> ?Schoolcraft
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?60%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?80%
>> 
>> ?Shiawassee
>> 
>> ?27
>> 
>> ?27
>> 
>> ?17
>> 
>> ?10
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?63%
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?74%
>> 
>> ?St.?Clair
>> 
>> ?52
>> 
>> ?48
>> 
>> ?44
>> 
>> ?4
>> 
>> ?92%
>> 
>> ?92%
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?98%
>> 
>> ?St.?Joseph
>> 
>> ?17
>> 
>> ?17
>> 
>> ?12
>> 
>> ?5
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?71%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?82%
>> 
>> ?Tuscola
>> 
>> ?25
>> 
>> ?24
>> 
>> ?16
>> 
>> ?8
>> 
>> ?96%
>> 
>> ?67%
>> 
>> ?2
>> 
>> ?75%
>> 
>> ?Van Buren
>> 
>> ?23
>> 
>> ?22
>> 
>> ?19
>> 
>> ?3
>> 
>> ?96%
>> 
>> ?86%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?91%
>> 
>> ?Washtenaw
>> 
>> ?106
>> 
>> ?100
>> 
>> ?70
>> 
>> ?30
>> 
>> ?94%
>> 
>> ?70%
>> 
>> ?0
>> 
>> ?70%
>> 
>> ?Wayne
>> 
>> ?568
>> 
>> ?519
>> 
>> ?325
>> 
>> ?194
>> 
>> ?91%
>> 
>> ?63%
>> 
>> ?28
>> 
>> ?68%
>> 
>> ?Wexford
>> 
>> ?20
>> 
>> ?20
>> 
>> ?14
>> 
>> ?6
>> 
>> ?100%
>> 
>> ?70%
>> 
>> ?1
>> 
>> ?75%
>> 
>> ?Total
>> 
>> ?3635
>> 
>> ?3457
>> 
>> ?2579
>> 
>> ?878
>> 
>> ?95.10%
>> 
>> ?74.60%
>> 
>> ?289
>> 
>> ?83%
>> 
>> ?table end
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:01:14 -0400
>> From: Katie Wang <bunnykatie6 at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list
>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about NLS WebBraille
>> Message-ID:
>> ????
>> 
>> 
>> <CA+**6VNgMyPtC8awLRoQhU091dof4rjGOi**FVS4bBx+gsDuOzYY5w at mail.gmail.**c
>> om
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> 
>> ?Chris, there is no Download button on Web
>> Braille.  Instead, when you
>> are taken to the book itself, just press Space with s
>> on your Braille
>> Note and you will be prompted for where you would like
>> to save the
>> file and what you would like to name it.  NLS saves
>> each braille volume
>> of a book in a separate file, so you will have to do
>> this multiple
>> times if you are dealing with a book that is in more
>> than one volume.
>> I have been a Web Braille user for many years and find
>> it a great
>> resource, although I have come to rely on Bookshare
>> more in the past
>> few years for pleasure reading since it has a much
>> larger, more
>> current collection.
>> ?Lea, I don't think you are doing anything wrong
>> on your end-- It
>> might be a NLS database issue.  I would suggest
>> contacting your state
>> NLS library again and see if they can get you
>> some?sort of technical
>> support contact info.  Someone from the central
>> program
>> that
>> administers the Web Braille service might need to look
>> into your
>> situation.
>> ?Hope this helps!
>> 젨쟇atie
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/10/11, Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> I tried to sing up with this sight and when I log
>> in it says my user
>> name and password is wrong.  I have called and
>> gotten it changed three
>> times and it still says it.  wonder what I am
>> doing wrong.
>> 
>> On 7/9/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a question for all you NLS Web Braille
>> users! I recently
>> registered for WebBraille, and am looking
>> forward to all it has
>> to offer.?But I do have this question:
>> when I click on a link
>> for a book, where can I find a link, button,
>> or something where I
>> can download the BRF file(s) onto my
>> BrailleNote? I tried to
>> download Walking Alone and Marching Together
>> last night, and when
>> I clicked on the link, it put me into the
>> actual book to read
>> online, but I wanted to download the book to
>> read it in my
>> BrailleNote's book reader at a later
>> date.?How can I do this?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!"
>> (Camp Abilities motto)
>> 
>> The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually
>> impaired youth in
>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say
>> "I can!" How? Click
>> on this link to learn more and to
>> contribute:
>> www.icanfoundation.info or like us on
>> Facebook at I C.A.N.
>> Foundation.
>> 
>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>> 
>> 
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:46:14 -0400
>> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list"
>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal sites
>> Message-ID:
>> <**B4037C3F7D6A496095F21D0D96442B**CF at OwnerPC
>> Content-Type: text/plain;??
>> 젨쟠harset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe more than
>> one blog.
>> So what accessible sites are there??Do bloggers
>> generally write first
>> person stories, or about things they see that are more
>> objective?
>> Any of you have a blog??How often do you update
>> it??Is it possible to
>> upload photos to it to go along with your story? Or
>> maybe you need sighted
>> help to post photos?
>> What about audio? What format do audio clips need to
>> be in?
>> Can you have more than one blog on the same site? Can
>> you write as much as you want or is there a word
>> limit?
>> I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with friends and
>> family.  I figured
>> blogging would be a neat way to write stories about
>> myself, life and my
>> opinions on things like books, technology, and
>> religion.
>> 
>> What site can you write like a journal about
>> yourself?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Ashley
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:50:08 -0500
>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.**edu<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list
>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>> sites
>> Message-ID:
>> ????
>> 
>> <CAO83KOvcw3DpL1u2R9+g_**RvWhXLH2gmZrbgwOouBK5VD3jm5RQ@**mail.gmail.c
>> om
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>> 
>> Ashley:
>> Why not start an accessible forum, online, for blind
>> people?
>> I've found an accessible one.
>> V Bulletin, is quite accessible, with an audio
>> captcha, (if they still have
>> it.)
>> To see 2 forums, from V Bulletin, here are some
>> examples.
>> www.apostolicfriendsforum.com, and
>> www.goodnewscafe.net.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> 
>> On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe more
>> than one blog.
>> So what accessible sites are there??Do
>> bloggers generally write first
>> person stories, or about things they see that are
>> more objective?
>> Any of you have a blog??How often do you
>> update it??Is it possible to
>> upload photos to it to go along with your story?
>> Or maybe you need
>> sighted
>> help to post photos?
>> What about audio? What format do audio clips need
>> to be in?
>> Can you have more than one blog on the same site?
>> Can
>> you write as much as you want or is there a word
>> limit?
>> I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with
>> friends and family.  I figured
>> blogging would be a neat way to write stories
>> about myself, life and my
>> opinions on things like books, technology, and
>> religion.
>> 
>> What site can you write like a journal about
>> yourself?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Ashley
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>> 62%40students.pccua.edu
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:42:30 -0400
>> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list"
>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>> sites
>> Message-ID:
>> <**AF7D2C5148FE4AC39D1C45AA2B6941**EB at OwnerPC
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
>> charset="Windows-1252";
>> ????reply-type=original
>> 
>> Joshua,
>> What is a forum like? Isn't that for a group of people
>> to discuss something
>> common?
>> Is that how a forum differs from a blog?
>> This would be a good idea if?I had several
>> people interested in a forum.
>> I'll see about it.  I have a beep ball team and that
>> was one of the things I
>> wanted to blog about.  But yes if more people want
>> to
>> post online, I'd like
>> the idea of a forum.  A blog would be more for my
>> writings, if I do it.
>> 
>> I'll check those links out and I'm glad to know they
>> are accessible.
>> 
>> Ashley
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:50 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>> sites
>> 
>> Ashley:
>> Why not start an accessible forum, online, for blind
>> people?
>> I've found an accessible one.
>> V Bulletin, is quite accessible, with an audio
>> captcha, (if they still have
>> it.)
>> To see 2 forums, from V Bulletin, here are some
>> examples.
>> www.apostolicfriendsforum.com, and
>> www.goodnewscafe.net.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> 
>> On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe more
>> than one blog.
>> So what accessible sites are there??Do
>> bloggers generally write first
>> person stories, or about things they see that are
>> more objective?
>> Any of you have a blog??How often do you
>> update it??Is it possible to
>> upload photos to it to go along with your story?
>> Or maybe you need
>> sighted
>> help to post photos?
>> What about audio? What format do audio clips need
>> to be in?
>> Can you have more than one blog on the same site?
>> Can
>> you write as much as you want or is there a word
>> limit?
>> I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with
>> friends and family.  I figured
>> blogging would be a neat way to write stories
>> about myself, life and my
>> opinions on things like books, technology, and
>> religion.
>> 
>> What site can you write like a journal about
>> yourself?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Ashley
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:52:18 -0400
>> From: Elizabeth <lizmohnke at hotmail.com
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Thanks for the Help at National
>> Convention
>> Message-ID: <COL118-**W1316868A320E5058F0232FBA450@**phx.gbl
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I have done my best to thank everyone individually for
>> the help they have
>> provided me over the past week.  However, I thought
>> I
>> would also send out a
>> general message to thank anyone I may have missed
>> along the way.  My
>> convention may not have gone the way I wanted it to
>> go, but it was exactly
>> what I needed for reasons I am not willing to share on
>> such a public email
>> list.
>> 
>> Since the last time I checked the messages on this
>> list was before
>> convention, it is quite possible that someone may have
>> already said what
>> happened, or at least their version of the story.
>> However, I have already
>> shared my version of the story about a million times
>> by now, so if you are
>> curious as to what happened, you will just have to
>> wait for another time.
>> 
>> The bottom line is that I am going to be just fine.
>> I
>> just wanted to show
>> my appreciation to those who may have helped me along
>> the way.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:22:03 -0500
>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.**edu<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list
>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>> sites
>> Message-ID:
>> ????
>> 
>> 
>> <CAO83KOviXamrW81HF9NX+**T4LZ7M9pU3mnTrmuGYO794JtGARSg@**mail.gmail.c
>> om
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>> 
>> Yes.
>> Are you familiar with the beap baseball?
>> I just heard about it, on the DJD Invasion.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> 
>> On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> wrote:
>> Joshua,
>> What is a forum like? Isn't that for a group of
>> people to discuss
>> something
>> common?
>> Is that how a forum differs from a blog?
>> This would be a good idea if?I had several
>> people interested in a forum.
>> I'll see about it.  I have a beep ball team and
>> that was one of the things
>> I
>> wanted to blog about.  But yes if more people want
>> to post online, I'd
>> like
>> the idea of a forum.  A blog would be more for my
>> writings, if I do it.
>> 
>> I'll check those links out and I'm glad to know
>> they are accessible.
>> 
>> Ashley
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:50 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>> sites
>> 
>> Ashley:
>> Why not start an accessible forum, online, for
>> blind people?
>> I've found an accessible one.
>> V Bulletin, is quite accessible, with an audio
>> captcha, (if they still
>> have
>> it.)
>> To see 2 forums, from V Bulletin, here are some
>> examples.
>> www.apostolicfriendsforum.com, and
>> www.goodnewscafe.net.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> 
>> On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe
>> more than one blog.
>> So what accessible sites are there??Do
>> bloggers generally write first
>> person stories, or about things they see that
>> are more objective?
>> Any of you have a blog??How often do
>> you update it??Is it possible to
>> upload photos to it to go along with your
>> story? Or maybe you need
>> sighted
>> help to post photos?
>> What about audio? What format do audio clips
>> need to be in?
>> Can you have more than one blog on the same
>> site? Can
>> you write as much as you want or is there a
>> word limit?
>> I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with
>> friends and family.  I figured
>> blogging would be a neat way to write stories
>> about myself, life and my
>> opinions on things like books, technology,
>> and religion.
>> 
>> What site can you write like a journal about
>> yourself?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Ashley
>> 
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>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 04:50:20 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Amy Sabo <amylsabo at comcast.net
>> To: "BLIND STUDENTS, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF"
>> <NABS-L at NFBNET.ORG>,
>> ????"OF BLIND STUDENTS,
>> COLORADO ASSOCIATION" <CABS at NFBNET.ORG
>> Subject: [nabs-l] aim problem
>> Message-ID:
>> ????<
>> 
>> 
>> 1760385386.319978.**1310359820794.JavaMail.root@**sz0144a.emeryville.
>> ca.mail.comcast.net
>> 
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> hello all,
>> 
>> i hope that you are all doing well.  i'm having
>> problems with the latest
>> version of aim.  i have tried tabbing to all of the
>> features on it to change
>> the settings on it but, jfw won't let me do that.
>> is
>> there a way in where i
>> can access aim with jfw? are there speciall scripts
>> for jfw that i can use?
>> 
>> thanks again and, i will talk to you all soon!
>> 
>> 
>> hugs,
>> amy
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:35:34 -0700
>> From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list'"
>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] aim problem
>> Message-ID:
>> <**0FCAE1D24B6A42BD8B6BF6FDF4002D**EE at HumbertoAvila
>> Content-Type: text/plain;??
>> 젨쟠harset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> The last thing I heard about AOL Instant Messenger
>> (AIM) was about 2 years
>> ago on a podcast about JAWS and instant messaging (by
>> the way, it was the
>> FS
>> cast).  Maybe they have updated the software and now
>> it
>> is inaccessible with
>> JAWS? I don't know...but, what version of JAWS are you
>> using? Which
>> operating system? Which version of aim?
>> Cheers,?Humberto
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>> On
>> Behalf
>> Of Amy Sabo
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:50 PM
>> To: BLIND STUDENTS, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF; OF BLIND
>> STUDENTS, COLORADO
>> ASSOCIATION
>> Subject: [nabs-l] aim problem
>> 
>> hello all,
>> 
>> i hope that you are all doing well.  i'm having
>> problems with the latest
>> version of aim.  i have tried tabbing to all of the
>> features on it to change
>> the settings on it but, jfw won't let me do that.
>> is
>> there a way in where i
>> can access aim with jfw? are there speciall scripts
>> for jfw that i can use?
>> 
>> thanks again and, i will talk to you all soon!
>> 
>> 
>> hugs,
>> amy
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>> t.humberto2
>> %40gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:50:05 -0500
>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nabs-l] iPal for sale
>> Message-ID: <auto-000019992102 at mailfront3.**g2host.com<auto-000019992102 at mailfront3.g2host.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii";
>> format=flowed
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Eye Pal for sale.  $1299
>> I can be contacted via email at mbrianwooten at gmail.com
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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