[nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years

Kirt Manwaring kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
Fri Jul 15 18:31:08 UTC 2011


I, for one, am thrilled we'll be in Orlando for a while.  The hotels
were nice (I was in the Centre and moved over to the Shingle Creek
mid-week and I quite enjoyed them both), and this probably means we'll
get some killer room rates.  Doesn't really sound all that insane or
crazy to me or my pocket book.  *grin*
  Best,
Kirt

On 7/15/11, T. Joseph Carter <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com> wrote:
> The staff were helpful and usually not too overeager to provide help
> when not needed.  I was pleased with that.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 09:21:22PM -0400, David Dodge wrote:
>>Personally, I have never encountered a more helpful staff in hotels than I
>>did in Orlando at Rosen. I have stayed in literally dozens of hotels and
>>they were by far the best so far.
>>
>>David
>>----------------------------------
>>David Dodge
>>Doctoral Degree Granting Institutions Rep.
>>State University of New York Student Assembly
>>English Major
>>University at Buffalo
>>306 Clemens Hall
>>Buffalo, NY 14260
>>daviddod at buffalo.edu
>>
>>
>>2011/7/14 Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Probably because they got a great deal from Rosen Hotels, who I've heard
>>> has really supported NFB and was a sponsor for their tenBroek Law
>>> Symposium
>>> in May.  I don't know though, just a guess.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>>>
>>> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps visually impaired youth in Maryland have
>>> the
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>>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:58:39 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>
>>> Anmol,
>>> Odd, why on earth are they having it in the same city for that long? That
>>> hasn't happened before.
>>> Do you know if its in the same hotel?
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Anmol Bhatia
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:50 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>
>>> It was me who sent that message.  2013 to 2018 NFB conventions will be
>>> held
>>> in Orlando.
>>>
>>> Anmol
>>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad.  Perhaps
>>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a
>>> breeze
>>> among flowers.
>>> Hellen Keller
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 7/12/11, Humberto Avila
>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Humberto Avila
>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 8:42 PM
>>> I didn't send  that message.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>> On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:31 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>
>>> Humberto,
>>>
>>> I thought 2012 would be in Dallas, as I heard from
>>> Dr.  Maurer at
>>> this year's convention.  Unless you mean 2018's would
>>> be in
>>> Orlando, making it six years.
>>>
>>>  Chris
>>>
>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities
>>> motto)
>>>
>>> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps visually impaired youth
>>> in
>>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How?
>>> Click
>>> on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>>> www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook at I
>>> C.A.N.
>>> Foundation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>
>>> The convention will actually be in Orlando for the next six
>>>
>>> years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 7/11/11, Rachael Vacanti <revacanti at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  From: Rachael Vacanti <revacanti at gmail.com
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>  To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 2:28 PM
>>>  I agree with Chris and Sherri.?
>>>  I haven't seen the old schedule, but that's
>>>  beside the point.?I flew down Saturday and didn't
>>>  leave until the next
>>>  Saturday.?You think I'd have time for fun
>>>  right??Wrong.?I didn't get out
>>>  of the hotel once.?I meant to go places, like the
>>>  beach, Citywalk and Bubba
>>>  Gump Shrimp, but I couldn't get there.?Why??
>>>  Because there were too many
>>>  things to do at convention.?Convention was awesome
>>>  and I had a great time,
>>>  but I really wanted to go out and explore Florida a bit
>>>  more.?I looked at
>>>  the agenda and technically, the first 3 days weren't
>>>  "required".?General
>>>  sessions didn't start until Wendsday.
>>>
>>>  One thing I think might also help convention, is if they
>>>  announce the state
>>>  cacus.?I missed mine cause I had only heard about it
>>>  once and I don't think
>>>  he even told me where it was.?The states should get
>>>  them sorted out before
>>>  convention and email their state this is when and where
>>> it
>>>  is.?I know that
>>>  not everything can be perfect at a thing like this, but
>>>  they did a very good
>>>  job.?For my first time, it was pretty good.
>>>
>>>  Rachael
>>>
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>>> 젨?.  [Blindtlk] Convention in Orlando
>>>  for 5 years (Chris Nusbaum)
>>> 젨?.  Re: question about brail to word
>>>  program? (Chris Nusbaum)
>>> 젨?.  Re: [acb-l] polling place access
>>>  issues to this day in mi
>>> ???(Josh Gregory)
>>> 젨?.  Re: question about NLS WebBraille
>>>  (Katie Wang)
>>> 젨?.  accessible blog and journal sites
>>>  (bookwormahb at earthlink.net)
>>> 젨?.  Re: accessible blog and journal
>>>  sites (Joshua Lester)
>>> 젨?.  Re: accessible blog and journal
>>>  sites (bookwormahb at earthlink.net)
>>> 젨?.  Thanks for the Help at National
>>>  Convention (Elizabeth)
>>> 젨?.  Re: accessible blog and journal
>>>  sites (Joshua Lester)
>>> ?10.  aim problem (Amy Sabo)
>>> ?11.  Re: aim problem (Humberto Avila)
>>> ?12.  iPal for sale (David Andrews)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**-----
>>> -----
>>>
>>>  Message: 1
>>>  Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:00:41 -0400
>>>  From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>>  To: NABS list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,
>>>  NFBMD list <nfbmd at nfbnet.org>,
>>>  NFB
>>> ????history list <nfb-history at nfbnet.org
>>>  Subject: [nabs-l] [Blindtlk] Convention in Orlando for
>>>  5 years
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>>>
>>> ?---- Original Message ------
>>>  From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>>  Subject: [Blindtlk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>  Date sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 19:59:44 -0400
>>>
>>>  It was announced at the convention that conventions
>>>  from 2013
>>>  through 2017
>>>  will be held in Orlando.?I wish we could extend
>>>  the length of
>>>  the convention
>>>  back to how it was and NFB would
>>>  organize tours for Wednesday afternoon.?That
>>>  way, people could
>>>  get excited
>>>  about Orlando and have time to go places.?I
>>>  liked the old
>>>  schedule much
>>>  better.?If we are going to keep people here for
>>>  five years in a
>>>  row, we need
>>>  to give them ample opportunity to take advantage of
>>>  all there is
>>>  to do in
>>>  Orlando.?Besides, I like the banquet the night
>>>  before the last
>>>  day of
>>>  convention.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Sherri Brun
>>>  "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making
>>>  other
>>>  plans." John
>>>  Lennon
>>>
>>>  Check out
>>> http://www.**raceforindependence.org/goto/**Sherri.Brun<http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun>
>>>
>>>  E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>> ?NFBF Newsline? chair
>>>  www.nfbnewsline.org
>>>  Vice-president NFB Greater Orlando Chapter
>>>  http://nfbfgoc.org
>>>  Secretary FDCP INC
>>>  www.fdcp.org
>>>  Chair Orange County Disability Advisory Committee
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>  Message: 2
>>>  Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:07:57 -0400
>>>  From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> ????list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about brail to word
>>>  program?
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>>>  In
>>>  the mean time, if you'd like, I can post your question
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>>>  Hope this helps!
>>>
>>> ?Chris
>>>
>>>  "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp
>>>  Abilities motto)
>>>
>>>  The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually impaired
>>>  youth in
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>>>  How? Click
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>>> ?Sent from my BrailleNote
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>>> ?----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: "Humberto Avila"
>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>>  To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>  list'"
>>>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Date sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 22:54:22 -0700
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about brail to word
>>>  program?
>>>
>>>  Are you trying to convert the Braille Note native
>>>  format
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>>>  do it because there is no program that will translate
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>>>  Keyword
>>>  Braille format (kwb) documents into Microsoft word
>>>  (.doc)
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>>>  and then use
>>>  a program
>>>  in your PC to convert .BRF files into .doc files--you
>>>  will need
>>>  Duxbury
>>>  Braille translator (which costs about $900 for the
>>>  license if you
>>>  don't
>>>  already have it--you can although try it for free but
>>>  some
>>>  functions will be
>>>  disabled)
>>>  I hope this was helpful to you.?Feel free to
>>>  send another
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>>>  if you can and I will give you more instructions--this
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>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>  [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>>  On Behalf
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>>>  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:27 PM
>>>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>  list
>>>  Subject: [nabs-l] question about brail to word
>>>  program?
>>>
>>>  I am sure this is a silly question but I have to
>>>  ask.?I use to
>>>  use my brail
>>>
>>>  note quite a bit but now I use my laptop more, I was
>>>  wondering if
>>>  there is a
>>>
>>>  program to change the files from the brail document to
>>>  a word
>>>  document?
>>>  Please keep in mind I am not very tech savvy so the
>>>  simpaler to
>>>  use the
>>>  better, but I still want it to do a good job.?
>>>  thank you so much
>>>  for your
>>>  help.
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: David Andrews
>>>  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 1:47 PM
>>>  To: promotion-technology at nfbnet.**org <promotion-technology at nfbnet.org>
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>>>
>>>  Message: 3
>>>  Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:20:18 -0400
>>>  From: Josh Gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com
>>>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> ????list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [acb-l] polling place access
>>>  issues to this day
>>> ????in mi
>>>  Message-ID:
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>>>  Hi,
>>>  OK, my thoughts.?They are, at the moment, each
>>>  other's
>>>  competetors/enemies/whatever.?**So, at the moment
>>>  anyway, I doubt
>>>  it.
>>>  Best,
>>>  Josh
>>>
>>>  sent from my Apex
>>>  Email: joshkart12 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> ?----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>  list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Date sent: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:30:00 -0400
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [acb-l] polling place access
>>>  issues to this
>>>  day in mi
>>>
>>>  I forwarded this because since the NFB is working to
>>>  ensure
>>>  accessible voting and was the driving force behind the
>>>  Help
>>>  America Vote Act (HAVA.) So, we might be able to work
>>>  jointly
>>>  with ACB on this.?What does
>>>  everyone think?
>>> ?Chris
>>>
>>>  "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp
>>>  Abilities motto)
>>>
>>>  The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually impaired
>>>  youth in
>>>  Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!"
>>>  How? Click
>>>  on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>>>  www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook at I
>>>  C.A.N.
>>>  Foundation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ?Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>> ?----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: Joshua Lester
>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.**edu<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>  list
>>>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Date sent: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 20:25:02 -0500
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [acb-l] polling place access
>>>  issues to this
>>>  day in mi
>>>
>>>  Chris, why are you forwarding stuff from the ACB?
>>>  Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>>  On 7/8/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>>  wrote:
>>> ?Thoughts on this?
>>>
>>> ?Chris
>>>
>>> ?"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp
>>>  Abilities
>>>  motto)
>>>
>>> ?The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually
>>>  impaired youth in
>>> ?Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I
>>>  can!" How? Click
>>> ?on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>>> ?www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook
>>>  at I C.A.N.
>>> ?Foundation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ?Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>> ?---- Original Message ------
>>> ?From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net
>>> ?Subject: [acb-l] polling place access issues to
>>>  this day in mi
>>> ?Date sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:05:31 -0400
>>>
>>> ?A Call to Action ?
>>>
>>> ?Unfinished Business to Ensure Michigan Voters
>>>  with Disabilities
>>> ?Have Access to the Polls in 2012
>>>
>>> ?A Public Report on
>>> ?Polling Place
>>>
>>> ?Accessibility in Michigan
>>>
>>> ?Public Report by
>>>
>>> ?Michigan Protection and Advocacy Service, Inc.
>>>
>>> ?2011
>>>
>>> ?Acknowledgements
>>>
>>> ?Michigan Protection and Advocacy Service (MPAS)
>>>  is Michigan?
>>> ?designated agency to advocate and protect the
>>>  legal rights of
>>> ?persons with disabilities, mandated
>>> ?by federal and state law.?MPAS receives
>>>  funding from the
>>> ?Administration on Developmental Disabilities,
>>>  the center for
>>> ?Mental Health Services ?Substance
>>> ?Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration,
>>>  the
>>> ?Rehabilitation Services Administration, the
>>>  Social Security
>>> ?Administration, the State of Michigan
>>> ?and from private donations.
>>>
>>> ?Funding for this report has been made possible
>>>  through the U.S.
>>> ?Department of Health and Human Services,
>>>  Administration for
>>> ?Children and Families, and the
>>> ?Administration on Developmental
>>>  Disabilities.?The contents are
>>> ?the sole responsibility of the author and do not
>>>  necessarily
>>> ?represent the official views
>>> ?of the U.S.?Department of Health and Human
>>>  Services.
>>>
>>> ?2011 by Michigan Protection and Advocacy
>>>  Service, Inc.?This
>>> ?publication may be reproduced in part or in its
>>>  entirety for
>>> ?noncommercial purposes as long
>>> ?as appropriate credit is given.
>>>
>>> ?Table of Contents
>>>
>>> ?Executive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Summary.......................**..............................**.....
>>> ?
>>>  ..............................**.....................5
>>>
>>> ?Midterm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Report........................**..............................**.....
>>> ?
>>>
>>> ..............................**...........................6
>>>
>>> ?Michigan? Polling Place Accessibility
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Project.......................**..............................**.....
>>> ?.........7
>>>
>>> ?Communicating Accessibility Problems with
>>>  Election
>>> ?
>>>  Officials.....................**.................10
>>>
>>> ?Next
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steps.........................**..............................**.....
>>> ?
>>>
>>> ..............................**..............................**..11
>>>
>>> ?In
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Summary.......................**..............................**.....
>>> ?
>>>
>>> ..............................**..............................**..11
>>>
>>> ?Accessibility Rate Per
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> County........................**..............................**.....
>>> ?.............................**...13
>>>
>>> ?Executive Summary
>>>
>>> ?In Michigan, voters with disabilities face
>>>  obstacles at voting
>>> ?locations often because their polling place
>>>  lacks physical
>>> ?accessibility.?The Help America
>>> ?Vote Act (HAVA) acknowledged the unique
>>>  obstacles faced by
>>>  voters
>>> ?with disabilities and authorized funding for the
>>>  federally
>>> ?mandated Protection and Advocacy
>>> ?Voting Access programs (PAVA) to help remove
>>>  barriers.
>>> ?Unfortunately, this vital mandate has been
>>>  targeted for
>>> ?elimination in the President? proposed
>>> ?2012 budget.
>>>
>>> ?HAVA charged Michigan Protection and Advocacy
>>>  Service, (MPAS),
>>> ?and other Protection & Advocacy agencies
>>>  with helping to ensure
>>> ?the full participation of
>>> ?individuals with disabilities in the electoral
>>>  process,
>>>  including
>>> ?registering to vote, casting a ballot, and
>>>  accessing polling
>>> ?places.
>>>
>>> ?The PAVA program at MPAS is designed to ensure
>>>  that every
>>> ?eligible Michigan resident receives equal access
>>>  to their
>>>  polling
>>> ?location and has the opportunity
>>> ?to cast an independent secret ballot.?MPAS
>>>  staff members are on
>>> ?the ground providing advice, technical
>>>  assistance, and training
>>> ?to election officials about
>>> ?voting accessibility across the spectrum of
>>>  disabilities.?The
>>> ?agency also provides outreach and training to
>>>  voters with
>>> ?disabilities, poll workers, and
>>> ?service providers.?MPAS and the Secretary
>>>  of State of Michigan
>>> ?partnered over the past six years working toward
>>>  this goal,
>>>  which
>>> ?has been effective in
>>> ?increasing physical access to polling locations
>>>  throughout
>>> ?Michigan.
>>>
>>> ?Voting is a fundamental right protected by the
>>>  United States
>>> ?Constitution, upheld by the Supreme Court and
>>>  subject to intense
>>> ?public scrutiny each election
>>> ?cycle.?Provisions within these protections
>>>  prohibit
>>> ?discrimination against people with disabilities
>>>  in the electoral
>>> ?process.?Exercising their Constitutional
>>> ?right, however, has continued to be a challenge
>>>  for individuals
>>> ?with disabilities despite changes made to
>>>  federal and state laws
>>> ?intended to ensure full
>>> ?participation.
>>>
>>> ?Key Summary
>>>
>>> ???젨잻isability advocates
>>>  have visited 95% (3,457) and
>>> ?reviewed the exterior of polling locations in
>>>  Michigan.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟖pon initial review,
>>>  Michigan Protection and Advocacy
>>> ?Service found that only 75% of 3,457 Michigan
>>>  polling places
>>>  were
>>> ?compliant under the Americans
>>> ?with Disabilities Act.
>>>
>>> ???젨잸fter working with
>>>  state and local officials, it is
>>> ?anticipated that Michigan? accessibility rate
>>>  will be increased
>>> ?to 90% in 2012.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟏f the locations that
>>>  were inaccessible, 60% had one
>>> ?barrier, 30% had two types of barriers, and 6%
>>>  had three or more
>>> ?types of barriers.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟏nly six of the 84
>>>  counties in Michigan were 100%
>>> ?physically accessible upon initial visit.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟋PAS continues to
>>>  receive complaints regarding the
>>> ?AutoMARK, Michigan? accessible ballot marking
>>>  device.
>>>
>>> ?Michigan has made great strides toward
>>>  accessibility at the
>>> ?polls.?This report will highlight the
>>>  steps taken to ensure
>>>  that
>>> ?all polling locations throughout
>>> ?Michigan are accessible to voters with
>>>  disabilities.?In
>>> ?addition, the report will offer recommendations
>>>  for Michigan to
>>> ?achieve and maintain an accessibility
>>> ?rate of 100%.
>>>
>>> ?2010 Mid Term Report
>>>
>>> ?Acknowledging widespread irregularity throughout
>>>  the country,
>>> ?Congress passed the Help America Vote Act (HAVA)
>>>  in 2002.?HAVA
>>> ?included sweeping legislation
>>> ?intended to modernize the electoral system for
>>>  all voters,
>>> ?including those with disabilities.?The
>>>  Help America Vote Act
>>> ?reinforced the application of
>>> ?Title II of the Americans with Disabilities Act
>>>  and Section 504
>>> ?of the Rehabilitation Act.?Furthermore, in
>>>  2004, Michigan
>>> ?lawmakers amended Michigan election
>>> ?law (Public Act 92 of 2004) to require the
>>>  removal of physical
>>> ?barriers at polling locations.?
>>>  Irrespective of both federal and
>>> ?state law, 25% of Michigan's
>>> ?voting locations continued to be inaccessible
>>>  for the November
>>> ?2010 general election.?To achieve an
>>>  all-encompassing voting
>>> ?standard for the fifty states,
>>> ?HAVA included two key components for the
>>>  disability community:
>>>
>>> ???젨잸ll polling places
>>>  must have at least one voting system
>>> ?which allows all citizens to cast a ballot
>>>  privately and
>>> ?independently, whether or not one
>>> ?has a disability.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟔tates must ensure
>>>  accessibility at all public polling
>>> ?places in a manner compliant with the Americans
>>>  with
>>>  Disabilities
>>> ?Act (ADA).
>>>
>>> ?Accessible Voting System
>>>
>>> ?In 2004, the disability community and the
>>>  Michigan Secretary of
>>> ?State? Bureau of Elections (BOE) carefully
>>>  assessing which
>>> ?accessible device would best
>>> ?fit the needs of Michigan voters, and in 2006
>>>  selected the
>>> ?AutoMARK.?The AutoMARK is an accessible
>>>  ballot marking device
>>> ?that can be used by all voters
>>> ?with or without disabilities.
>>>
>>> ?Although every polling location is equipped with
>>>  the AutoMARK,
>>> ?each municipality is responsible for making sure
>>>  it is set up
>>>  and
>>> ?operating properly.?Unfortunately,
>>> ?MPAS continues to receive complaints about the
>>>  AutoMARK.?Voter
>>> ?complaints have included the following:?
>>>  the AutoMARK was boxed
>>> ?up on Election Day, unplugged,
>>> ?jammed up, turned off, or set up so other voters
>>>  could see the
>>> ??ecret?ballot.?Complaints concerning
>>>  jammed ballots have been
>>> ?greatly reduced since the
>>> ?last round of updates were completed.?
>>>  Because the AutoMARK is
>>> ?used only on Election Day, MPAS relies on voter
>>>  feedback to
>>> ?correct these kinds of problems.
>>> ?MPAS continues to monitor and respond to
>>>  complaints as they
>>> ?arise.
>>>
>>> ?Accessible Polling Places
>>>
>>> ?Under HAVA, the federal government allocated
>>>  money to assist
>>>  with
>>> ?the purchase of accessible equipment like the
>>>  AutoMARK, but also
>>> ?to help municipalities
>>> ?make their polling places physically
>>>  accessible.?Congress
>>> ?recognized that in order for people to use the
>>>  accessible voting
>>> ?machines, the building must
>>> ?also be accessible so voters can access the
>>>  polling location and
>>> ?voting equipment.?It is the local election
>>>  officials?
>>> ?responsibility to make sure all
>>> ?polling locations are accessible on Election
>>>  Day.?To help cover
>>> ?the expense for removing barriers at polling
>>>  locations, the
>>> ?Michigan BOE administers a
>>> ?grant program called Access for All, under the
>>>  U.S.?Department
>>> ?of Health and Human Services with funding
>>>  allocated through
>>>  HAVA,
>>> ?to help the state comply
>>> ?with HAVA.?In most circumstances, the
>>>  Access for All grants
>>> ?cover all costs associated with accessibility
>>>  upgrades for
>>> ?polling locations.
>>>
>>> ?When Michigan? State Plan to implement
>>>  provisions under HAVA
>>>  was
>>> ?initiated in 2004, municipal clerks were
>>>  required to complete an
>>> ?accessibility checklist
>>> ?to determine whether or not their locations were
>>>  accessible.
>>> ?This was one of the state? first attempts to
>>>  gather information
>>> ?on Michigan? polling place
>>> ?accessibility.?During this time, MPAS and
>>>  other organizations
>>> ?were working closely with individual election
>>>  officials on
>>> ?polling location reviews and
>>> ?were also training the municipal clerks on the
>>>  accessibility
>>> ?requirements.?MPAS also spent a
>>>  considerable amount of time
>>> ?assisting clerks with assessing
>>> ?the accessibility of their polling locations and
>>>  helping them
>>> ?apply for Access for All grant money.?MPAS
>>>  found that the
>>> ?accessibility data provided by
>>> ?clerks was not, in certain instances, wholly
>>>  reliable.
>>>
>>> ?MPAS brought this to the Bureau of Election?
>>>  (BOE) attention
>>>  and
>>> ?shared independent accessibility reviews with
>>>  them.?The BOE has
>>> ?since increased efforts
>>> ?to ensure the accuracy of reporting by improving
>>>  communication
>>> ?and requiring additional documentation from the
>>>  clerks.
>>>
>>> ?In 2008, MPAS started to assess municipal
>>>  polling locations
>>> ?randomly, without notifying the election
>>>  official in advance.
>>> ?After compiling this data on
>>> ?polling locations statewide, the systemic issue
>>>  of
>>> ?inaccessibility became a heightened
>>>  concern.?Once these
>>>  concerns
>>> ?were communicated to the Bureau of
>>> ?Elections, they backed a new initiative in 2010
>>>  dramatically
>>> ?increasing their involvement in the advancement
>>>  of polling place
>>> ?accessibility.
>>>
>>> ?This same year, the federal government began
>>>  reviewing how the
>>> ?states were spending HAVA funds.?This
>>>  fueled speculation that
>>> ?the federal government would
>>> ?eliminate the monies available under HAVA, since
>>>  some states had
>>> ?not spent their money, rather placing it in an
>>>  account and
>>> ?allowing the funds to gain
>>> ?interest.?Concerned that Congress would
>>>  pull the allocated
>>>  funds
>>> ?completely, which would prevent municipalities
>>>  from accessing
>>> ?money to make polling places
>>> ?accessible, MPAS, along with the Michigan Bureau
>>>  of Elections,
>>> ?embarked on a project to ensure 100%
>>>  accessibility at all
>>> ?Michigan polling places.
>>>
>>> ?Michigan? Polling Place Accessibility Project
>>>
>>> ?In 2010, Michigan started building the framework
>>>  of a statewide
>>> ?plan to reach 100% polling place
>>>  accessibility.?MPAS and the
>>> ?Bureau of Elections strengthened
>>> ?their partnership in order to achieve this
>>>  goal.?Within this
>>> ?plan, MPAS would review the exterior of all
>>>  locations throughout
>>> ?the state.?Michigan has
>>> ?approximately 3,600 polling places in
>>>  total.?MPAS had already
>>> ?gathered information on 530 polling places prior
>>>  to 2010,
>>> ?therefore, did not revisit those
>>> ?locations (some were initially accessible and
>>>  others MPAS worked
>>> ?closely with clerks to improve
>>>  accessibility.?MPAS is still
>>> ?working with clerks to bring
>>> ?the remaining 57 of the 530 polling locations
>>>  into compliance).
>>> ?MPAS was able to visit the remaining 2,927
>>>  polling locations in
>>> ?2010.
>>>
>>> ?Overall, MPAS conducted on-site reviews of at
>>>  least 95% of the
>>> ?polling places in Michigan.
>>>
>>> ?The on-site reviews conducted in 2010, exposed
>>>  nearly 25% of the
>>> ?polling places that remained physically
>>>  inaccessible as required
>>> ?by the Americans with
>>> ?Disabilities Accessibility Guidelines.
>>>
>>> ?Of the 3,457 polling locations noted above,
>>>  2,927 were assessed
>>> ?between May-August 2010.?Using the ADAAG
>>>  as a benchmark to
>>> ?determine physical accessibility,
>>> ?over 800 polling locations within the 2,927
>>>  locations visited,
>>> ?had physical barriers failing to comply with the
>>>  ADAAG ?
>>>  barriers
>>> ?that create potential
>>> ?difficulties to voters with disabilities on
>>>  Election Day.
>>>
>>> ?Barriers can prevent people with disabilities
>>>  from fully
>>> ?participating in all aspects of society because
>>>  of their
>>> ?disability.?This might include
>>>  architectural
>>> ?barriers, physical barriers, communication
>>>  barriers, attitudinal
>>> ?barriers, cultural barriers, etc.?
>>>  Throughout this project,
>>>  MPAS?
>>> ?reviews focused primarily
>>> ?on physical and external barriers, which are
>>>  defined as
>>>  something
>>> ?material that blocks passage.?Physical
>>>  barriers addressed in
>>> ?this report include objects
>>> ?in the environment such as inaccessible doors or
>>>  doorways,
>>> ?inaccessible elevators or lack thereof,
>>>  inaccessible door
>>> ?hardware, inaccessible parking, etc.
>>>
>>> ?Among the 2,927 polling locations visited in
>>>  2010, 28% did not
>>> ?meet accessibility standards.?Based on
>>>  discussions with the BOE
>>> ?in 2008, when MPAS completed
>>> ?the unannounced visits, clerks were not only
>>>  notified with a
>>> ?letter from MPAS concerning accessibility, but
>>>  they were also
>>> ?notified by the Bureau of Elections.
>>> ?MPAS and the BOE required prompt reply about the
>>>  municipalities
>>> ?plans to meet ADA requirements.?The
>>>  letters contained a
>>> ?photograph of the problem area(s),
>>> ?along with the appropriate ADAAG citation.?
>>>  Within a five month
>>> ?period, letters were sent to over 440
>>>  municipalities concerning
>>> ?approximately 800 polling
>>> ?locations.
>>>
>>> ?As shown below, 28% of the polling places
>>>  visited in 2010 had
>>> ?some type of physical barrier present at the
>>>  time of review.
>>>
>>> ?The following chart highlights the most common
>>>  number of
>>>  physical
>>> ?barriers discovered at each location.
>>>
>>> ?A majority of the locations reviewed had only
>>>  one physical
>>> ?barrier present.?While the largest and
>>>  most frequent problem
>>>  was
>>> ?related to parking, the types
>>> ?of barriers at each location varied as shown in
>>>  the following
>>> ?chart.
>>>
>>> ?Text Box: Parking Signs: locations that had
>>>  accessible parking
>>> ?but no signs posted?Parking:?
>>>  locations that had no parking
>>> ?designated or noncompliant access
>>> ?aisles?Pathway:?barriers that
>>>  existed between access aisles
>>>  and
>>> ?entryway?Entrance:?problems such as
>>>  door width, door
>>> ?thresholds, door hardware, vestibules,
>>> ?etc.?Ramps/Curbs: problems with curb cuts,
>>>  ramps, handrails,
>>> ?thresholds greater than 1 inch, etc.
>>>
>>> ?Communicating Accessibility Problems with
>>>  Election Officials
>>>
>>> ?After completing the on-site reviews, MPAS
>>>  notified municipal
>>> ?clerks of locations where barriers were
>>>  discovered.?Within a
>>> ?four-month period, over 440
>>> ?letters were sent to election officials.?
>>>  By the end of 2010,
>>>  88%
>>> ?of those clerks responded back to MPAS with a
>>>  plan of
>>>  correction.
>>> ?In addition, MPAS
>>> ?provided technical assistance to the election
>>>  officials on how
>>>  to
>>> ?improve access to their polling location in
>>>  order to come into
>>> ?compliance.젨잹ased on
>>> ?the responses received from clerks, 43% informed
>>>  us they were
>>> ?would make the changes required; 31% corrected
>>>  the barriers at
>>> ?the polling locations; 9%
>>> ?were going to apply for Access for All grant;
>>>  and the remaining
>>> ?responses varied from clerk using temporary
>>>  equipment.
>>>
>>> ?When a clerk informed MAPS that the work was
>>>  completed, MPAS
>>> ?required documentation from each clerk proving
>>>  or stating that
>>> ?the work had been completed,
>>> ?including photographs and/or copies of purchase
>>>  orders.?A
>>> ?majority of the clerks responded either with a
>>>  plan of
>>>  correction
>>> ?for spring 2011 or with a
>>> ?statement that the work was completed.?
>>>  MPAS is still waiting
>>>  for
>>> ?some clerks to confirm that the work was done
>>>  sufficiently.
>>>  Once
>>> ?the removal of barriers
>>> ?at these locations has been verified, MPAS
>>>  expects Michigan?
>>> ?polling place accessibility rate to rise to
>>>  nearly 90 % ?--
>>> ?one of the highest in the nation.
>>> ?There remains, however, substantial work to be
>>>  completed in the
>>> ?city of Detroit in order to reach this
>>>  goal.?The remaining 12%
>>> ?of clerks, who did not respond
>>> ?to MPAS or the Bureau of Election with a plan of
>>>  correction,
>>>  will
>>> ?become a 2011 priority in order to attain 100%
>>>  accessibility.
>>>
>>> ?NEXT STEPS
>>>
>>> ?While the focus of this report has been on
>>>  reaching the 90%
>>> ?accessibility rate, there would still be
>>>  approximately 10% of
>>> ?polling locations in Michigan
>>> ?that are not accessible to all voters.?
>>>  Some clerks disagree
>>>  with
>>> ?the findings and MPAS is working with those
>>>  clerks.
>>>
>>> ?In 2011, MPAS will be re-visiting a number of
>>>  polling locations
>>> ?that are still recorded as being inaccessible,
>>>  breaking them
>>>  into
>>> ?three categories: failure
>>> ?to communicate; work promised but documentation
>>>  still needed;
>>>  and
>>> ?locations requiring review by MPAS.
>>>
>>> ?MPAS will focus attention on election officials
>>>  who have failed
>>> ?to respond to MPAS communication attempts.?
>>>  This may involve
>>> ?revisiting the location (some
>>> ?clerks correct the problem even when they fail
>>>  to respond),
>>> ?attending city council/township meetings, filing
>>>  official HAVA
>>> ?complaints, and/or pursuing
>>> ?legal action under different funding
>>>  sources.?MPAS?goal has
>>> ?always been to educate clerks and assist them
>>>  with improving
>>> ?access first by proposing solutions
>>> ?to removing barriers.
>>>
>>> ?In 2011, MPAS will also direct its attention to
>>>  monitoring the
>>> ?correction plans that election officials have
>>>  submitted to
>>>  ensure
>>> ?that barriers are removed.
>>> ?MPAS will review the remaining 150 polling
>>>  locations that have
>>> ?not been visited yet.
>>>
>>> ?In Summary
>>>
>>> ?Throughout the 2010 project, the partnership
>>>  between MPAS and
>>>  the
>>> ?Michigan Bureau of Elections (BOE) was
>>>  crucial.?The state
>>> ?reinforced the necessity of
>>> ?accessible elections.?They followed up
>>>  with each municipality
>>> ?whose polling place was noted as being
>>>  inaccessible in order to
>>> ?determine the jurisdiction's
>>> ?planned course of action.?In addition, the
>>>  BOE coordinated and
>>> ?extended Michigan's polling place improvement
>>>  grant well into
>>>  the
>>> ?fall to assist municipalities
>>> ?in removing barriers to voting at no cost.
>>>
>>> ?Local election officials can either upgrade
>>>  their polling places
>>> ?(with or without grant funds), or relocate the
>>>  polling place to
>>> ?an accessible site.?The
>>> ?Bureau of Elections reports that due to the 2010
>>>  project, they
>>> ?have seen a large increase in the number of
>>>  municipalities
>>> ?applying for grant money.?In
>>> ?an effort to assist with the project, the BOE
>>>  extended the
>>> ?typical grant cycle by two months, giving clerks
>>>  additional
>>> ?opportunity to respond to MPAS?
>>> ?letter and correct the problem(s) by using grant
>>>  funds.?The
>>> ?Michigan Bureau of Elections received 74 grant
>>>  applications, the
>>> ?largest amount ever received
>>> ?in one grant cycle.?Of those 74 grant
>>>  applications, 66
>>> ?applicants received letters from MPAS seeking a
>>>  plan of
>>> ?correction - 89% of those who applied.
>>> ?A large number of municipalities have pledged to
>>>  apply when the
>>> ?next grant period opens in early 2011.
>>>
>>> ?If the HAVA/PAVA program survives the President?
>>>  proposed
>>>  budget
>>> ?cuts, MPAS looks forward to continuing the
>>>  partnership with the
>>> ?Secretary of State, ensuring
>>> ?all elections are accessible to all
>>>  voters.?Additionally, MPAS
>>> ?encourages clerks to reach out to local
>>>  disability groups for
>>> ?future trainings.?Listed
>>> ?below are additional recommendations moving
>>>  forward.
>>>
>>> ?Summary/Recommendations:
>>>
>>> ???젨쟊ocal clerks must be
>>>  required to notify the Bureau of
>>> ?Elections prior to relocating polling places.
>>>
>>> ???젨잸ccessibility checks
>>>  should be completed when clerks
>>> ?change polling locations, to verify
>>>  accessibility.?Reports
>>>  (with
>>> ?photographs) should be submitted
>>> ?to the Bureau of Elections.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟍ew polling locations
>>>  must be required to adhere to the
>>> ?Americans with Disabilities Act Accessibility
>>>  Guidelines.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟕he advisory committee
>>>  in charge of amending the State
>>> ?Plan (under HAVA) should re-convene and identify
>>>  ways to hold
>>> ?clerks accountable and implement
>>> ?model oversight programs.
>>>
>>> ???젨잸ccess for All grant
>>>  money should be available
>>>  throughout
>>> ?the year, so accessibility problems can be
>>>  addressed anytime
>>>  they
>>> ?arise.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟕he Bureau of
>>>  Elections and local clerks should continue
>>> ?working with disability advocacy organizations
>>>  to complete
>>> ?year-round polling place accessibility
>>> ?audits and training to clerks.
>>>
>>> ?Accessibility Rate by County
>>>
>>> ?Table with 9 columns and 85 rows
>>>
>>> ?County
>>>
>>> ?Polling Locations
>>>
>>> ?Visited
>>>
>>> ?Accessible
>>>
>>> ?Barriers Discovered
>>>
>>> ?Percent Visited
>>>
>>> ?% Accessible of those Visited
>>>
>>> ?Now Complete
>>>
>>> ?% Now Accessible
>>>
>>> ?Alcona
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?Alger
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?50%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?Allegan
>>>
>>> ?37
>>>
>>> ?37
>>>
>>> ?35
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?95%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?97%
>>>
>>> ?Alpena
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?53%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?60%
>>>
>>> ?Antrim
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?60%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?73%
>>>
>>> ?Arenac
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?71%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?93%
>>>
>>> ?Baraga
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?17%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?33%
>>>
>>> ?Barry
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?83%
>>>
>>> ?Bay
>>>
>>> ?49
>>>
>>> ?48
>>>
>>> ?36
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?98%
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?Benzie
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?46%
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?Berrien
>>>
>>> ?57
>>>
>>> ?57
>>>
>>> ?43
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Branch
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?94%
>>>
>>> ?53%
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?88%
>>>
>>> ?Calhoun
>>>
>>> ?46
>>>
>>> ?43
>>>
>>> ?34
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?93%
>>>
>>> ?79%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?86%
>>>
>>> ?Cass
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?95%
>>>
>>> ?Charlevoix
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?69%
>>>
>>> ?Cheboygan
>>>
>>> ?20
>>>
>>> ?20
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?95%
>>>
>>> ?Chippewa
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?95%
>>>
>>> ?72%
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?94%
>>>
>>> ?Clare
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?84%
>>>
>>> ?81%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?94%
>>>
>>> ?Clinton
>>>
>>> ?28
>>>
>>> ?26
>>>
>>> ?24
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?93%
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?Crawford
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?86%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?86%
>>>
>>> ?Delta
>>>
>>> ?21
>>>
>>> ?20
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?95%
>>>
>>> ?55%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?60%
>>>
>>> ?Dickinson
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?40%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?73%
>>>
>>> ?Eaton
>>>
>>> ?36
>>>
>>> ?36
>>>
>>> ?28
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?83%
>>>
>>> ?Emmet
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Genesee
>>>
>>> ?119
>>>
>>> ?109
>>>
>>> ?84
>>>
>>> ?25
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?79%
>>>
>>> ?Gladwin
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?65%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?71%
>>>
>>> ?Gogebic
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?90%
>>>
>>> ?Grand Traverse
>>>
>>> ?28
>>>
>>> ?27
>>>
>>> ?27
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?Gratiot
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?Hillsdale
>>>
>>> ?21
>>>
>>> ?21
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?57%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?71%
>>>
>>> ?Houghton
>>>
>>> ?31
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?71%
>>>
>>> ?41%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?64%
>>>
>>> ?Huron
>>>
>>> ?30
>>>
>>> ?29
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?97%
>>>
>>> ?62%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?79%
>>>
>>> ?Ingham
>>>
>>> ?95
>>>
>>> ?81
>>>
>>> ?78
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?85%
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?Ionia
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?82%
>>>
>>> ?Iosco
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?93%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?Iron
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?50%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?Isabella
>>>
>>> ?25
>>>
>>> ?25
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?76%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?80%
>>>
>>> ?Jackson
>>>
>>> ?47
>>>
>>> ?45
>>>
>>> ?34
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?76%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?80%
>>>
>>> ?Kalamazoo
>>>
>>> ?97
>>>
>>> ?97
>>>
>>> ?79
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?81%
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Kalkaska
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?Kent
>>>
>>> ?209
>>>
>>> ?207
>>>
>>> ?174
>>>
>>> ?33
>>>
>>> ?99%
>>>
>>> ?84%
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Keweenaw
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?80%
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?Lake
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?53%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?Lapeer
>>>
>>> ?24
>>>
>>> ?24
>>>
>>> ?20
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?83%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?Leelanau
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?62%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?69%
>>>
>>> ?Lenawee
>>>
>>> ?30
>>>
>>> ?30
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?90%
>>>
>>> ?Livingston
>>>
>>> ?48
>>>
>>> ?45
>>>
>>> ?35
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?94%
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?Luce
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?Mackinac
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?50%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?60%
>>>
>>> ?Macomb
>>>
>>> ?235
>>>
>>> ?233
>>>
>>> ?188
>>>
>>> ?45
>>>
>>> ?99%
>>>
>>> ?81%
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?88%
>>>
>>> ?Manistee
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?73%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?93%
>>>
>>> ?Marquette
>>>
>>> ?29
>>>
>>> ?29
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?55%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?59%
>>>
>>> ?Mason
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?65%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?Mecosta
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?82%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?86%
>>>
>>> ?Menominee
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?88%
>>>
>>> ?57%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?57%
>>>
>>> ?Midland
>>>
>>> ?38
>>>
>>> ?29
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?76%
>>>
>>> ?76%
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?90%
>>>
>>> ?Missaukee
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?82%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?Monroe
>>>
>>> ?42
>>>
>>> ?36
>>>
>>> ?27
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?86%
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Montcalm
>>>
>>> ?26
>>>
>>> ?25
>>>
>>> ?21
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?84%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?Montmorency
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Muskegon
>>>
>>> ?72
>>>
>>> ?71
>>>
>>> ?68
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?99%
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?99%
>>>
>>> ?Newaygo
>>>
>>> ?28
>>>
>>> ?28
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?79%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Oakland
>>>
>>> ?410
>>>
>>> ?380
>>>
>>> ?292
>>>
>>> ?88
>>>
>>> ?93%
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?46
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Oceana
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?Ogemaw
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?94%
>>>
>>> ?Ontonagon
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?71%
>>>
>>> ?30%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?30%
>>>
>>> ?Osceola
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Oscoda
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?83%
>>>
>>> ?Otsego
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?90%
>>>
>>> ?Ottawa
>>>
>>> ?88
>>>
>>> ?88
>>>
>>> ?79
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?90%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?95%
>>>
>>> ?Presque Isle
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?81%
>>>
>>> ?Roscommon
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?Saginaw
>>>
>>> ?75
>>>
>>> ?75
>>>
>>> ?61
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?81%
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?Sanilac
>>>
>>> ?30
>>>
>>> ?30
>>>
>>> ?26
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?87%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?97%
>>>
>>> ?Schoolcraft
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?60%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?80%
>>>
>>> ?Shiawassee
>>>
>>> ?27
>>>
>>> ?27
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?74%
>>>
>>> ?St.?Clair
>>>
>>> ?52
>>>
>>> ?48
>>>
>>> ?44
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?98%
>>>
>>> ?St.?Joseph
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?71%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?82%
>>>
>>> ?Tuscola
>>>
>>> ?25
>>>
>>> ?24
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?Van Buren
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?86%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?91%
>>>
>>> ?Washtenaw
>>>
>>> ?106
>>>
>>> ?100
>>>
>>> ?70
>>>
>>> ?30
>>>
>>> ?94%
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?Wayne
>>>
>>> ?568
>>>
>>> ?519
>>>
>>> ?325
>>>
>>> ?194
>>>
>>> ?91%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?28
>>>
>>> ?68%
>>>
>>> ?Wexford
>>>
>>> ?20
>>>
>>> ?20
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?Total
>>>
>>> ?3635
>>>
>>> ?3457
>>>
>>> ?2579
>>>
>>> ?878
>>>
>>> ?95.10%
>>>
>>> ?74.60%
>>>
>>> ?289
>>>
>>> ?83%
>>>
>>> ?table end
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>  Message: 4
>>>  Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:01:14 -0400
>>>  From: Katie Wang <bunnykatie6 at gmail.com
>>>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>  list
>>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about NLS WebBraille
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>>> <CA+**6VNgMyPtC8awLRoQhU091dof4rjGOi**FVS4bBx+gsDuOzYY5w at mail.gmail.**c
>>> om
>>>
>>>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>> ?Chris, there is no Download button on Web
>>>  Braille.  Instead, when you
>>>  are taken to the book itself, just press Space with s
>>>  on your Braille
>>>  Note and you will be prompted for where you would like
>>>  to save the
>>>  file and what you would like to name it.  NLS saves
>>>  each braille volume
>>>  of a book in a separate file, so you will have to do
>>>  this multiple
>>>  times if you are dealing with a book that is in more
>>>  than one volume.
>>>  I have been a Web Braille user for many years and find
>>>  it a great
>>>  resource, although I have come to rely on Bookshare
>>>  more in the past
>>>  few years for pleasure reading since it has a much
>>>  larger, more
>>>  current collection.
>>> ?Lea, I don't think you are doing anything wrong
>>>  on your end-- It
>>>  might be a NLS database issue.  I would suggest
>>>  contacting your state
>>>  NLS library again and see if they can get you
>>>  some?sort of technical
>>>  support contact info.  Someone from the central
>>> program
>>>  that
>>>  administers the Web Braille service might need to look
>>>  into your
>>>  situation.
>>> ?Hope this helps!
>>> 젨쟇atie
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 7/10/11, Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>  wrote:
>>>  I tried to sing up with this sight and when I log
>>>  in it says my user
>>>  name and password is wrong.  I have called and
>>>  gotten it changed three
>>>  times and it still says it.  wonder what I am
>>>  doing wrong.
>>>
>>>  On 7/9/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>>  wrote:
>>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>>  I have a question for all you NLS Web Braille
>>>  users! I recently
>>>  registered for WebBraille, and am looking
>>>  forward to all it has
>>>  to offer.?But I do have this question:
>>>  when I click on a link
>>>  for a book, where can I find a link, button,
>>>  or something where I
>>>  can download the BRF file(s) onto my
>>>  BrailleNote? I tried to
>>>  download Walking Alone and Marching Together
>>>  last night, and when
>>>  I clicked on the link, it put me into the
>>>  actual book to read
>>>  online, but I wanted to download the book to
>>>  read it in my
>>>  BrailleNote's book reader at a later
>>>  date.?How can I do this?
>>>  Thanks!
>>>
>>>  Chris
>>>
>>>  "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!"
>>>  (Camp Abilities motto)
>>>
>>>  The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually
>>>  impaired youth in
>>>  Maryland have the ability to confidently say
>>>  "I can!" How? Click
>>>  on this link to learn more and to
>>>  contribute:
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>>>  Foundation.
>>>
>>>  Sent from my BrailleNote
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>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>>  Message: 5
>>>  Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:46:14 -0400
>>>  From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>  list"
>>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Subject: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal sites
>>>  Message-ID:
>>>  <**B4037C3F7D6A496095F21D0D96442B**CF at OwnerPC
>>>  Content-Type: text/plain;??
>>>  젨쟠harset="utf-8"
>>>
>>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>>  I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe more than
>>>  one blog.
>>>  So what accessible sites are there??Do bloggers
>>>  generally write first
>>>  person stories, or about things they see that are more
>>>  objective?
>>>  Any of you have a blog??How often do you update
>>>  it??Is it possible to
>>>  upload photos to it to go along with your story? Or
>>>  maybe you need sighted
>>>  help to post photos?
>>>  What about audio? What format do audio clips need to
>>>  be in?
>>>  Can you have more than one blog on the same site? Can
>>>  you write as much as you want or is there a word
>>>  limit?
>>>  I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with friends and
>>>  family.  I figured
>>>  blogging would be a neat way to write stories about
>>>  myself, life and my
>>>  opinions on things like books, technology, and
>>>  religion.
>>>
>>>  What site can you write like a journal about
>>>  yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thanks.
>>>  Ashley
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>>  Message: 6
>>>  Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:50:08 -0500
>>>  From: Joshua Lester
>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.**edu<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>  list
>>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>>  sites
>>>  Message-ID:
>>> ????
>>>
>>> <CAO83KOvcw3DpL1u2R9+g_**RvWhXLH2gmZrbgwOouBK5VD3jm5RQ@**mail.gmail.c
>>> om
>>>
>>>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>>
>>>  Ashley:
>>>  Why not start an accessible forum, online, for blind
>>>  people?
>>>  I've found an accessible one.
>>>  V Bulletin, is quite accessible, with an audio
>>>  captcha, (if they still have
>>>  it.)
>>>  To see 2 forums, from V Bulletin, here are some
>>>  examples.
>>>  www.apostolicfriendsforum.com, and
>>>  www.goodnewscafe.net.
>>>  Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>>  On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>  <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>  wrote:
>>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>>  I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe more
>>>  than one blog.
>>>  So what accessible sites are there??Do
>>>  bloggers generally write first
>>>  person stories, or about things they see that are
>>>  more objective?
>>>  Any of you have a blog??How often do you
>>>  update it??Is it possible to
>>>  upload photos to it to go along with your story?
>>>  Or maybe you need
>>>  sighted
>>>  help to post photos?
>>>  What about audio? What format do audio clips need
>>>  to be in?
>>>  Can you have more than one blog on the same site?
>>>  Can
>>>  you write as much as you want or is there a word
>>>  limit?
>>>  I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with
>>>  friends and family.  I figured
>>>  blogging would be a neat way to write stories
>>>  about myself, life and my
>>>  opinions on things like books, technology, and
>>>  religion.
>>>
>>>  What site can you write like a journal about
>>>  yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thanks.
>>>  Ashley
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>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>>  Message: 7
>>>  Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:42:30 -0400
>>>  From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>  list"
>>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>>  sites
>>>  Message-ID:
>>>  <**AF7D2C5148FE4AC39D1C45AA2B6941**EB at OwnerPC
>>>  Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
>>>  charset="Windows-1252";
>>> ????reply-type=original
>>>
>>>  Joshua,
>>>  What is a forum like? Isn't that for a group of people
>>>  to discuss something
>>>  common?
>>>  Is that how a forum differs from a blog?
>>>  This would be a good idea if?I had several
>>>  people interested in a forum.
>>>  I'll see about it.  I have a beep ball team and that
>>>  was one of the things I
>>>  wanted to blog about.  But yes if more people want
>>> to
>>>  post online, I'd like
>>>  the idea of a forum.  A blog would be more for my
>>>  writings, if I do it.
>>>
>>>  I'll check those links out and I'm glad to know they
>>>  are accessible.
>>>
>>>  Ashley
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: Joshua Lester
>>>  Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:50 PM
>>>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>  list
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>>  sites
>>>
>>>  Ashley:
>>>  Why not start an accessible forum, online, for blind
>>>  people?
>>>  I've found an accessible one.
>>>  V Bulletin, is quite accessible, with an audio
>>>  captcha, (if they still have
>>>  it.)
>>>  To see 2 forums, from V Bulletin, here are some
>>>  examples.
>>>  www.apostolicfriendsforum.com, and
>>>  www.goodnewscafe.net.
>>>  Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>>  On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>  <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>  wrote:
>>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>>  I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe more
>>>  than one blog.
>>>  So what accessible sites are there??Do
>>>  bloggers generally write first
>>>  person stories, or about things they see that are
>>>  more objective?
>>>  Any of you have a blog??How often do you
>>>  update it??Is it possible to
>>>  upload photos to it to go along with your story?
>>>  Or maybe you need
>>>  sighted
>>>  help to post photos?
>>>  What about audio? What format do audio clips need
>>>  to be in?
>>>  Can you have more than one blog on the same site?
>>>  Can
>>>  you write as much as you want or is there a word
>>>  limit?
>>>  I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with
>>>  friends and family.  I figured
>>>  blogging would be a neat way to write stories
>>>  about myself, life and my
>>>  opinions on things like books, technology, and
>>>  religion.
>>>
>>>  What site can you write like a journal about
>>>  yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thanks.
>>>  Ashley
>>>  ______________________________**_________________
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>>  Message: 8
>>>  Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:52:18 -0400
>>>  From: Elizabeth <lizmohnke at hotmail.com
>>>  To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Subject: [nabs-l] Thanks for the Help at National
>>>  Convention
>>>  Message-ID: <COL118-**W1316868A320E5058F0232FBA450@**phx.gbl
>>>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>>
>>>  Hello All,
>>>
>>>  I have done my best to thank everyone individually for
>>>  the help they have
>>>  provided me over the past week.  However, I thought
>>> I
>>>  would also send out a
>>>  general message to thank anyone I may have missed
>>>  along the way.  My
>>>  convention may not have gone the way I wanted it to
>>>  go, but it was exactly
>>>  what I needed for reasons I am not willing to share on
>>>  such a public email
>>>  list.
>>>
>>>  Since the last time I checked the messages on this
>>>  list was before
>>>  convention, it is quite possible that someone may have
>>>  already said what
>>>  happened, or at least their version of the story.
>>>  However, I have already
>>>  shared my version of the story about a million times
>>>  by now, so if you are
>>>  curious as to what happened, you will just have to
>>>  wait for another time.
>>>
>>>  The bottom line is that I am going to be just fine.
>>> I
>>>  just wanted to show
>>>  my appreciation to those who may have helped me along
>>>  the way.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>>  Elizabeth
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>>  Message: 9
>>>  Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:22:03 -0500
>>>  From: Joshua Lester
>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.**edu<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>  list
>>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>>  sites
>>>  Message-ID:
>>> ????
>>>
>>>
>>> <CAO83KOviXamrW81HF9NX+**T4LZ7M9pU3mnTrmuGYO794JtGARSg@**mail.gmail.c
>>> om
>>>
>>>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>>
>>>  Yes.
>>>  Are you familiar with the beap baseball?
>>>  I just heard about it, on the DJD Invasion.
>>>  Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>>  On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>  <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>  wrote:
>>>  Joshua,
>>>  What is a forum like? Isn't that for a group of
>>>  people to discuss
>>>  something
>>>  common?
>>>  Is that how a forum differs from a blog?
>>>  This would be a good idea if?I had several
>>>  people interested in a forum.
>>>  I'll see about it.  I have a beep ball team and
>>>  that was one of the things
>>>  I
>>>  wanted to blog about.  But yes if more people want
>>>  to post online, I'd
>>>  like
>>>  the idea of a forum.  A blog would be more for my
>>>  writings, if I do it.
>>>
>>>  I'll check those links out and I'm glad to know
>>>  they are accessible.
>>>
>>>  Ashley
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: Joshua Lester
>>>  Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:50 PM
>>>  To: National Association of Blind Students
>>>  mailing list
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>>  sites
>>>
>>>  Ashley:
>>>  Why not start an accessible forum, online, for
>>>  blind people?
>>>  I've found an accessible one.
>>>  V Bulletin, is quite accessible, with an audio
>>>  captcha, (if they still
>>>  have
>>>  it.)
>>>  To see 2 forums, from V Bulletin, here are some
>>>  examples.
>>>  www.apostolicfriendsforum.com, and
>>>  www.goodnewscafe.net.
>>>  Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>>  On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>  <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>  wrote:
>>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>>  I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe
>>>  more than one blog.
>>>  So what accessible sites are there??Do
>>>  bloggers generally write first
>>>  person stories, or about things they see that
>>>  are more objective?
>>>  Any of you have a blog??How often do
>>>  you update it??Is it possible to
>>>  upload photos to it to go along with your
>>>  story? Or maybe you need
>>>  sighted
>>>  help to post photos?
>>>  What about audio? What format do audio clips
>>>  need to be in?
>>>  Can you have more than one blog on the same
>>>  site? Can
>>>  you write as much as you want or is there a
>>>  word limit?
>>>  I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with
>>>  friends and family.  I figured
>>>  blogging would be a neat way to write stories
>>>  about myself, life and my
>>>  opinions on things like books, technology,
>>>  and religion.
>>>
>>>  What site can you write like a journal about
>>>  yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thanks.
>>>  Ashley
>>>
>>>  ______________________________**_________________
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>>>  nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>>> 62%40students.pccua.edu
>>>
>>>
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>>> 62%40students.pccua.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>>  Message: 10
>>>  Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 04:50:20 +0000 (UTC)
>>>  From: Amy Sabo <amylsabo at comcast.net
>>>  To: "BLIND STUDENTS, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF"
>>> <NABS-L at NFBNET.ORG>,
>>> ????"OF BLIND STUDENTS,
>>>  COLORADO ASSOCIATION" <CABS at NFBNET.ORG
>>>  Subject: [nabs-l] aim problem
>>>  Message-ID:
>>> ????<
>>>
>>>
>>> 1760385386.319978.**1310359820794.JavaMail.root@**sz0144a.emeryville.
>>> ca.mail.comcast.net
>>>
>>>
>>>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>>  hello all,
>>>
>>>  i hope that you are all doing well.  i'm having
>>>  problems with the latest
>>>  version of aim.  i have tried tabbing to all of the
>>>  features on it to change
>>>  the settings on it but, jfw won't let me do that.
>>> is
>>>  there a way in where i
>>>  can access aim with jfw? are there speciall scripts
>>>  for jfw that i can use?
>>>
>>>  thanks again and, i will talk to you all soon!
>>>
>>>
>>>  hugs,
>>>  amy
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>>  Message: 11
>>>  Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:35:34 -0700
>>>  From: "Humberto Avila"
>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>>  To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>  list'"
>>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] aim problem
>>>  Message-ID:
>>>  <**0FCAE1D24B6A42BD8B6BF6FDF4002D**EE at HumbertoAvila
>>>  Content-Type: text/plain;??
>>>  젨쟠harset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>>  The last thing I heard about AOL Instant Messenger
>>>  (AIM) was about 2 years
>>>  ago on a podcast about JAWS and instant messaging (by
>>>  the way, it was the
>>>  FS
>>>  cast).  Maybe they have updated the software and now
>>> it
>>>  is inaccessible with
>>>  JAWS? I don't know...but, what version of JAWS are you
>>>  using? Which
>>>  operating system? Which version of aim?
>>>  Cheers,?Humberto
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>  [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>>  On
>>>  Behalf
>>>  Of Amy Sabo
>>>  Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:50 PM
>>>  To: BLIND STUDENTS, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF; OF BLIND
>>>  STUDENTS, COLORADO
>>>  ASSOCIATION
>>>  Subject: [nabs-l] aim problem
>>>
>>>  hello all,
>>>
>>>  i hope that you are all doing well.  i'm having
>>>  problems with the latest
>>>  version of aim.  i have tried tabbing to all of the
>>>  features on it to change
>>>  the settings on it but, jfw won't let me do that.
>>> is
>>>  there a way in where i
>>>  can access aim with jfw? are there speciall scripts
>>>  for jfw that i can use?
>>>
>>>  thanks again and, i will talk to you all soon!
>>>
>>>
>>>  hugs,
>>>  amy
>>>  ______________________________**_________________
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>>>
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>>> t.humberto2
>>>  %40gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>>  Message: 12
>>>  Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:50:05 -0500
>>>  From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>>>  To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>>>  Subject: [nabs-l] iPal for sale
>>>  Message-ID:
>>> <auto-000019992102 at mailfront3.**g2host.com<auto-000019992102 at mailfront3.g2host.com>
>>>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii";
>>>  format=flowed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eye Pal for sale.  $1299
>>> I can be contacted via email at mbrianwooten at gmail.com
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
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>>>
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