[nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
Kirt Manwaring
kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
Fri Jul 15 22:57:35 UTC 2011
Ashley,
Hotels should have braille numbers on doors anyway, as per the ADA.
I've only seen one or two hotels that didn't. But yeah, over-all, I
liked the way the staff helped you; they gave directions usually,
especially when you told them they didn't have to just take you where
you were going. The Rosen Centre staff was a little better at that,
but that might just be because there were only a few hundred of us in
there as opposed to a couple thousand. I had to roll my eyes a little
bit when they poured our salad dressing for us and handed us our bread
at the banquet but that's really minor, I guess.
Best,
Kirt
On 7/15/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Joseph,
> Good. Are you refering to the main hotel or the overflow hotel?
> Glad they had a nice balance of being helpful. That is always nice for crowd
> control and assisting people to go where they need to go efficiently.
> What accomodations did they provide if any, with NFB? I know NFB doesn't
> believe in making many modifications, but I figured they may do a little.
> Did they have braille numbers on doors? How about braille menus?
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: T. Joseph Carter
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 3:57 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>
> The staff were helpful and usually not too overeager to provide help
> when not needed. I was pleased with that.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 09:21:22PM -0400, David Dodge wrote:
>>Personally, I have never encountered a more helpful staff in hotels than I
>>did in Orlando at Rosen. I have stayed in literally dozens of hotels and
>>they were by far the best so far.
>>
>>David
>>----------------------------------
>>David Dodge
>>Doctoral Degree Granting Institutions Rep.
>>State University of New York Student Assembly
>>English Major
>>University at Buffalo
>>306 Clemens Hall
>>Buffalo, NY 14260
>>daviddod at buffalo.edu
>>
>>
>>2011/7/14 Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Probably because they got a great deal from Rosen Hotels, who I've heard
>>> has really supported NFB and was a sponsor for their tenBroek Law
>>> Symposium
>>> in May. I don't know though, just a guess.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>>>
>>> The I C.A.N. Foundation helps visually impaired youth in Maryland have
>>> the
>>> ability to confidently say "I can!" How? Click on this link to learn more
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>>>
>>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:58:39 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>
>>> Anmol,
>>> Odd, why on earth are they having it in the same city for that long? That
>>> hasn't happened before.
>>> Do you know if its in the same hotel?
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Anmol Bhatia
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:50 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>
>>> It was me who sent that message. 2013 to 2018 NFB conventions will be
>>> held
>>> in Orlando.
>>>
>>> Anmol
>>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
>>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a
>>> breeze
>>> among flowers.
>>> Hellen Keller
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 7/12/11, Humberto Avila
>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Humberto Avila
>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 8:42 PM
>>> I didn't send that message.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>> On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:31 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>
>>> Humberto,
>>>
>>> I thought 2012 would be in Dallas, as I heard from
>>> Dr. Maurer at
>>> this year's convention. Unless you mean 2018's would
>>> be in
>>> Orlando, making it six years.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities
>>> motto)
>>>
>>> The I C.A.N. Foundation helps visually impaired youth
>>> in
>>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How?
>>> Click
>>> on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>>> www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook at I
>>> C.A.N.
>>> Foundation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>
>>> The convention will actually be in Orlando for the next six
>>>
>>> years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 7/11/11, Rachael Vacanti <revacanti at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Rachael Vacanti <revacanti at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 2:28 PM
>>> I agree with Chris and Sherri.?
>>> I haven't seen the old schedule, but that's
>>> beside the point.?I flew down Saturday and didn't
>>> leave until the next
>>> Saturday.?You think I'd have time for fun
>>> right??Wrong.?I didn't get out
>>> of the hotel once.?I meant to go places, like the
>>> beach, Citywalk and Bubba
>>> Gump Shrimp, but I couldn't get there.?Why??
>>> Because there were too many
>>> things to do at convention.?Convention was awesome
>>> and I had a great time,
>>> but I really wanted to go out and explore Florida a bit
>>> more.?I looked at
>>> the agenda and technically, the first 3 days weren't
>>> "required".?General
>>> sessions didn't start until Wendsday.
>>>
>>> One thing I think might also help convention, is if they
>>> announce the state
>>> cacus.?I missed mine cause I had only heard about it
>>> once and I don't think
>>> he even told me where it was.?The states should get
>>> them sorted out before
>>> convention and email their state this is when and where
>>> it
>>> is.?I know that
>>> not everything can be perfect at a thing like this, but
>>> they did a very good
>>> job.?For my first time, it was pretty good.
>>>
>>> Rachael
>>>
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>>> 젨?. [Blindtlk] Convention in Orlando
>>> for 5 years (Chris Nusbaum)
>>> 젨?. Re: question about brail to word
>>> program? (Chris Nusbaum)
>>> 젨?. Re: [acb-l] polling place access
>>> issues to this day in mi
>>> ???(Josh Gregory)
>>> 젨?. Re: question about NLS WebBraille
>>> (Katie Wang)
>>> 젨?. accessible blog and journal sites
>>> (bookwormahb at earthlink.net)
>>> 젨?. Re: accessible blog and journal
>>> sites (Joshua Lester)
>>> 젨?. Re: accessible blog and journal
>>> sites (bookwormahb at earthlink.net)
>>> 젨?. Thanks for the Help at National
>>> Convention (Elizabeth)
>>> 젨?. Re: accessible blog and journal
>>> sites (Joshua Lester)
>>> ?10. aim problem (Amy Sabo)
>>> ?11. Re: aim problem (Humberto Avila)
>>> ?12. iPal for sale (David Andrews)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:00:41 -0400
>>> From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> To: NABS list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,
>>> NFBMD list <nfbmd at nfbnet.org>,
>>> NFB
>>> ????history list <nfb-history at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] [Blindtlk] Convention in Orlando for
>>> 5 years
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>>> ?---- Original Message ------
>>> From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 19:59:44 -0400
>>>
>>> It was announced at the convention that conventions
>>> from 2013
>>> through 2017
>>> will be held in Orlando.?I wish we could extend
>>> the length of
>>> the convention
>>> back to how it was and NFB would
>>> organize tours for Wednesday afternoon.?That
>>> way, people could
>>> get excited
>>> about Orlando and have time to go places.?I
>>> liked the old
>>> schedule much
>>> better.?If we are going to keep people here for
>>> five years in a
>>> row, we need
>>> to give them ample opportunity to take advantage of
>>> all there is
>>> to do in
>>> Orlando.?Besides, I like the banquet the night
>>> before the last
>>> day of
>>> convention.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sherri Brun
>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making
>>> other
>>> plans." John
>>> Lennon
>>>
>>> Check out
>>> http://www.**raceforindependence.org/goto/**Sherri.Brun<http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun>
>>>
>>> E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>> ?NFBF Newsline? chair
>>> www.nfbnewsline.org
>>> Vice-president NFB Greater Orlando Chapter
>>> http://nfbfgoc.org
>>> Secretary FDCP INC
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>>> Chair Orange County Disability Advisory Committee
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:07:57 -0400
>>> From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> ????list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about brail to word
>>> program?
>>> Message-ID:
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>>>
>>> You could also join the BrailleNote list, where users
>>> of the
>>> BrailleNote can talk about tips and tricks regarding
>>> the BN and
>>> ask questions when they're having technical
>>> problems.?Here's the
>>> link:
>>>
>>> www.list.humanware.com/**mailman/listinfo/braillenote<http://www.list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote>
>>> .?
>>> In
>>> the mean time, if you'd like, I can post your question
>>> to the BN
>>> list and forward you any responses off list.?
>>> Hope this helps!
>>>
>>> ?Chris
>>>
>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp
>>> Abilities motto)
>>>
>>> The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually impaired
>>> youth in
>>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!"
>>> How? Click
>>> on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>>> www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook at I
>>> C.A.N.
>>> Foundation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ?Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>> ?----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Humberto Avila"
>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 22:54:22 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about brail to word
>>> program?
>>>
>>> Are you trying to convert the Braille Note native
>>> format
>>> documents into word
>>> documents.?If you want to do so, you will have
>>> to use your
>>> Braille note to
>>> do it because there is no program that will translate
>>> and convert
>>> Keyword
>>> Braille format (kwb) documents into Microsoft word
>>> (.doc)
>>> documents, unless
>>> you want to convert you .kwb files into .BRF files,
>>> and then use
>>> a program
>>> in your PC to convert .BRF files into .doc files--you
>>> will need
>>> Duxbury
>>> Braille translator (which costs about $900 for the
>>> license if you
>>> don't
>>> already have it--you can although try it for free but
>>> some
>>> functions will be
>>> disabled)
>>> I hope this was helpful to you.?Feel free to
>>> send another
>>> message off list
>>> if you can and I will give you more instructions--this
>>> is good
>>> practice for
>>> me because I will be a teacher of the blind teaching
>>> assistive
>>> technology.
>>> Cheers,?Humberto
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>> On Behalf
>>> Of Andi
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:27 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] question about brail to word
>>> program?
>>>
>>> I am sure this is a silly question but I have to
>>> ask.?I use to
>>> use my brail
>>>
>>> note quite a bit but now I use my laptop more, I was
>>> wondering if
>>> there is a
>>>
>>> program to change the files from the brail document to
>>> a word
>>> document?
>>> Please keep in mind I am not very tech savvy so the
>>> simpaler to
>>> use the
>>> better, but I still want it to do a good job.?
>>> thank you so much
>>> for your
>>> help.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Andrews
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 1:47 PM
>>> To: promotion-technology at nfbnet.**org <promotion-technology at nfbnet.org>
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:20:18 -0400
>>> From: Josh Gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> ????list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [acb-l] polling place access
>>> issues to this day
>>> ????in mi
>>> Message-ID:
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>>> format=flowed
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> OK, my thoughts.?They are, at the moment, each
>>> other's
>>> competetors/enemies/whatever.?**So, at the moment
>>> anyway, I doubt
>>> it.
>>> Best,
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> sent from my Apex
>>> Email: joshkart12 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> ?----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:30:00 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [acb-l] polling place access
>>> issues to this
>>> day in mi
>>>
>>> I forwarded this because since the NFB is working to
>>> ensure
>>> accessible voting and was the driving force behind the
>>> Help
>>> America Vote Act (HAVA.) So, we might be able to work
>>> jointly
>>> with ACB on this.?What does
>>> everyone think?
>>> ?Chris
>>>
>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp
>>> Abilities motto)
>>>
>>> The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually impaired
>>> youth in
>>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!"
>>> How? Click
>>> on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>>> www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook at I
>>> C.A.N.
>>> Foundation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ?Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>> ?----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.**edu<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 20:25:02 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [acb-l] polling place access
>>> issues to this
>>> day in mi
>>>
>>> Chris, why are you forwarding stuff from the ACB?
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/8/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> ?Thoughts on this?
>>>
>>> ?Chris
>>>
>>> ?"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp
>>> Abilities
>>> motto)
>>>
>>> ?The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually
>>> impaired youth in
>>> ?Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I
>>> can!" How? Click
>>> ?on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>>> ?www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook
>>> at I C.A.N.
>>> ?Foundation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ?Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>> ?---- Original Message ------
>>> ?From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net
>>> ?Subject: [acb-l] polling place access issues to
>>> this day in mi
>>> ?Date sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:05:31 -0400
>>>
>>> ?A Call to Action ?
>>>
>>> ?Unfinished Business to Ensure Michigan Voters
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>>>
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>>> ?Polling Place
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>> ?Funding for this report has been made possible
>>> through the U.S.
>>> ?Department of Health and Human Services,
>>> Administration for
>>> ?Children and Families, and the
>>> ?Administration on Developmental
>>> Disabilities.?The contents are
>>> ?the sole responsibility of the author and do not
>>> necessarily
>>> ?represent the official views
>>> ?of the U.S.?Department of Health and Human
>>> Services.
>>>
>>> ?2011 by Michigan Protection and Advocacy
>>> Service, Inc.?This
>>> ?publication may be reproduced in part or in its
>>> entirety for
>>> ?noncommercial purposes as long
>>> ?as appropriate credit is given.
>>>
>>> ?Table of Contents
>>>
>>> ?Executive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Summary.......................**..............................**.....
>>> ?
>>> ..............................**.....................5
>>>
>>> ?Midterm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Report........................**..............................**.....
>>> ?
>>>
>>> ..............................**...........................6
>>>
>>> ?Michigan? Polling Place Accessibility
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Project.......................**..............................**.....
>>> ?.........7
>>>
>>> ?Communicating Accessibility Problems with
>>> Election
>>> ?
>>> Officials.....................**.................10
>>>
>>> ?Next
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steps.........................**..............................**.....
>>> ?
>>>
>>> ..............................**..............................**..11
>>>
>>> ?In
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Summary.......................**..............................**.....
>>> ?
>>>
>>> ..............................**..............................**..11
>>>
>>> ?Accessibility Rate Per
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> County........................**..............................**.....
>>> ?.............................**...13
>>>
>>> ?Executive Summary
>>>
>>> ?In Michigan, voters with disabilities face
>>> obstacles at voting
>>> ?locations often because their polling place
>>> lacks physical
>>> ?accessibility.?The Help America
>>> ?Vote Act (HAVA) acknowledged the unique
>>> obstacles faced by
>>> voters
>>> ?with disabilities and authorized funding for the
>>> federally
>>> ?mandated Protection and Advocacy
>>> ?Voting Access programs (PAVA) to help remove
>>> barriers.
>>> ?Unfortunately, this vital mandate has been
>>> targeted for
>>> ?elimination in the President? proposed
>>> ?2012 budget.
>>>
>>> ?HAVA charged Michigan Protection and Advocacy
>>> Service, (MPAS),
>>> ?and other Protection & Advocacy agencies
>>> with helping to ensure
>>> ?the full participation of
>>> ?individuals with disabilities in the electoral
>>> process,
>>> including
>>> ?registering to vote, casting a ballot, and
>>> accessing polling
>>> ?places.
>>>
>>> ?The PAVA program at MPAS is designed to ensure
>>> that every
>>> ?eligible Michigan resident receives equal access
>>> to their
>>> polling
>>> ?location and has the opportunity
>>> ?to cast an independent secret ballot.?MPAS
>>> staff members are on
>>> ?the ground providing advice, technical
>>> assistance, and training
>>> ?to election officials about
>>> ?voting accessibility across the spectrum of
>>> disabilities.?The
>>> ?agency also provides outreach and training to
>>> voters with
>>> ?disabilities, poll workers, and
>>> ?service providers.?MPAS and the Secretary
>>> of State of Michigan
>>> ?partnered over the past six years working toward
>>> this goal,
>>> which
>>> ?has been effective in
>>> ?increasing physical access to polling locations
>>> throughout
>>> ?Michigan.
>>>
>>> ?Voting is a fundamental right protected by the
>>> United States
>>> ?Constitution, upheld by the Supreme Court and
>>> subject to intense
>>> ?public scrutiny each election
>>> ?cycle.?Provisions within these protections
>>> prohibit
>>> ?discrimination against people with disabilities
>>> in the electoral
>>> ?process.?Exercising their Constitutional
>>> ?right, however, has continued to be a challenge
>>> for individuals
>>> ?with disabilities despite changes made to
>>> federal and state laws
>>> ?intended to ensure full
>>> ?participation.
>>>
>>> ?Key Summary
>>>
>>> ???젨잻isability advocates
>>> have visited 95% (3,457) and
>>> ?reviewed the exterior of polling locations in
>>> Michigan.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟖pon initial review,
>>> Michigan Protection and Advocacy
>>> ?Service found that only 75% of 3,457 Michigan
>>> polling places
>>> were
>>> ?compliant under the Americans
>>> ?with Disabilities Act.
>>>
>>> ???젨잸fter working with
>>> state and local officials, it is
>>> ?anticipated that Michigan? accessibility rate
>>> will be increased
>>> ?to 90% in 2012.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟏f the locations that
>>> were inaccessible, 60% had one
>>> ?barrier, 30% had two types of barriers, and 6%
>>> had three or more
>>> ?types of barriers.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟏nly six of the 84
>>> counties in Michigan were 100%
>>> ?physically accessible upon initial visit.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟋PAS continues to
>>> receive complaints regarding the
>>> ?AutoMARK, Michigan? accessible ballot marking
>>> device.
>>>
>>> ?Michigan has made great strides toward
>>> accessibility at the
>>> ?polls.?This report will highlight the
>>> steps taken to ensure
>>> that
>>> ?all polling locations throughout
>>> ?Michigan are accessible to voters with
>>> disabilities.?In
>>> ?addition, the report will offer recommendations
>>> for Michigan to
>>> ?achieve and maintain an accessibility
>>> ?rate of 100%.
>>>
>>> ?2010 Mid Term Report
>>>
>>> ?Acknowledging widespread irregularity throughout
>>> the country,
>>> ?Congress passed the Help America Vote Act (HAVA)
>>> in 2002.?HAVA
>>> ?included sweeping legislation
>>> ?intended to modernize the electoral system for
>>> all voters,
>>> ?including those with disabilities.?The
>>> Help America Vote Act
>>> ?reinforced the application of
>>> ?Title II of the Americans with Disabilities Act
>>> and Section 504
>>> ?of the Rehabilitation Act.?Furthermore, in
>>> 2004, Michigan
>>> ?lawmakers amended Michigan election
>>> ?law (Public Act 92 of 2004) to require the
>>> removal of physical
>>> ?barriers at polling locations.?
>>> Irrespective of both federal and
>>> ?state law, 25% of Michigan's
>>> ?voting locations continued to be inaccessible
>>> for the November
>>> ?2010 general election.?To achieve an
>>> all-encompassing voting
>>> ?standard for the fifty states,
>>> ?HAVA included two key components for the
>>> disability community:
>>>
>>> ???젨잸ll polling places
>>> must have at least one voting system
>>> ?which allows all citizens to cast a ballot
>>> privately and
>>> ?independently, whether or not one
>>> ?has a disability.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟔tates must ensure
>>> accessibility at all public polling
>>> ?places in a manner compliant with the Americans
>>> with
>>> Disabilities
>>> ?Act (ADA).
>>>
>>> ?Accessible Voting System
>>>
>>> ?In 2004, the disability community and the
>>> Michigan Secretary of
>>> ?State? Bureau of Elections (BOE) carefully
>>> assessing which
>>> ?accessible device would best
>>> ?fit the needs of Michigan voters, and in 2006
>>> selected the
>>> ?AutoMARK.?The AutoMARK is an accessible
>>> ballot marking device
>>> ?that can be used by all voters
>>> ?with or without disabilities.
>>>
>>> ?Although every polling location is equipped with
>>> the AutoMARK,
>>> ?each municipality is responsible for making sure
>>> it is set up
>>> and
>>> ?operating properly.?Unfortunately,
>>> ?MPAS continues to receive complaints about the
>>> AutoMARK.?Voter
>>> ?complaints have included the following:?
>>> the AutoMARK was boxed
>>> ?up on Election Day, unplugged,
>>> ?jammed up, turned off, or set up so other voters
>>> could see the
>>> ??ecret?ballot.?Complaints concerning
>>> jammed ballots have been
>>> ?greatly reduced since the
>>> ?last round of updates were completed.?
>>> Because the AutoMARK is
>>> ?used only on Election Day, MPAS relies on voter
>>> feedback to
>>> ?correct these kinds of problems.
>>> ?MPAS continues to monitor and respond to
>>> complaints as they
>>> ?arise.
>>>
>>> ?Accessible Polling Places
>>>
>>> ?Under HAVA, the federal government allocated
>>> money to assist
>>> with
>>> ?the purchase of accessible equipment like the
>>> AutoMARK, but also
>>> ?to help municipalities
>>> ?make their polling places physically
>>> accessible.?Congress
>>> ?recognized that in order for people to use the
>>> accessible voting
>>> ?machines, the building must
>>> ?also be accessible so voters can access the
>>> polling location and
>>> ?voting equipment.?It is the local election
>>> officials?
>>> ?responsibility to make sure all
>>> ?polling locations are accessible on Election
>>> Day.?To help cover
>>> ?the expense for removing barriers at polling
>>> locations, the
>>> ?Michigan BOE administers a
>>> ?grant program called Access for All, under the
>>> U.S.?Department
>>> ?of Health and Human Services with funding
>>> allocated through
>>> HAVA,
>>> ?to help the state comply
>>> ?with HAVA.?In most circumstances, the
>>> Access for All grants
>>> ?cover all costs associated with accessibility
>>> upgrades for
>>> ?polling locations.
>>>
>>> ?When Michigan? State Plan to implement
>>> provisions under HAVA
>>> was
>>> ?initiated in 2004, municipal clerks were
>>> required to complete an
>>> ?accessibility checklist
>>> ?to determine whether or not their locations were
>>> accessible.
>>> ?This was one of the state? first attempts to
>>> gather information
>>> ?on Michigan? polling place
>>> ?accessibility.?During this time, MPAS and
>>> other organizations
>>> ?were working closely with individual election
>>> officials on
>>> ?polling location reviews and
>>> ?were also training the municipal clerks on the
>>> accessibility
>>> ?requirements.?MPAS also spent a
>>> considerable amount of time
>>> ?assisting clerks with assessing
>>> ?the accessibility of their polling locations and
>>> helping them
>>> ?apply for Access for All grant money.?MPAS
>>> found that the
>>> ?accessibility data provided by
>>> ?clerks was not, in certain instances, wholly
>>> reliable.
>>>
>>> ?MPAS brought this to the Bureau of Election?
>>> (BOE) attention
>>> and
>>> ?shared independent accessibility reviews with
>>> them.?The BOE has
>>> ?since increased efforts
>>> ?to ensure the accuracy of reporting by improving
>>> communication
>>> ?and requiring additional documentation from the
>>> clerks.
>>>
>>> ?In 2008, MPAS started to assess municipal
>>> polling locations
>>> ?randomly, without notifying the election
>>> official in advance.
>>> ?After compiling this data on
>>> ?polling locations statewide, the systemic issue
>>> of
>>> ?inaccessibility became a heightened
>>> concern.?Once these
>>> concerns
>>> ?were communicated to the Bureau of
>>> ?Elections, they backed a new initiative in 2010
>>> dramatically
>>> ?increasing their involvement in the advancement
>>> of polling place
>>> ?accessibility.
>>>
>>> ?This same year, the federal government began
>>> reviewing how the
>>> ?states were spending HAVA funds.?This
>>> fueled speculation that
>>> ?the federal government would
>>> ?eliminate the monies available under HAVA, since
>>> some states had
>>> ?not spent their money, rather placing it in an
>>> account and
>>> ?allowing the funds to gain
>>> ?interest.?Concerned that Congress would
>>> pull the allocated
>>> funds
>>> ?completely, which would prevent municipalities
>>> from accessing
>>> ?money to make polling places
>>> ?accessible, MPAS, along with the Michigan Bureau
>>> of Elections,
>>> ?embarked on a project to ensure 100%
>>> accessibility at all
>>> ?Michigan polling places.
>>>
>>> ?Michigan? Polling Place Accessibility Project
>>>
>>> ?In 2010, Michigan started building the framework
>>> of a statewide
>>> ?plan to reach 100% polling place
>>> accessibility.?MPAS and the
>>> ?Bureau of Elections strengthened
>>> ?their partnership in order to achieve this
>>> goal.?Within this
>>> ?plan, MPAS would review the exterior of all
>>> locations throughout
>>> ?the state.?Michigan has
>>> ?approximately 3,600 polling places in
>>> total.?MPAS had already
>>> ?gathered information on 530 polling places prior
>>> to 2010,
>>> ?therefore, did not revisit those
>>> ?locations (some were initially accessible and
>>> others MPAS worked
>>> ?closely with clerks to improve
>>> accessibility.?MPAS is still
>>> ?working with clerks to bring
>>> ?the remaining 57 of the 530 polling locations
>>> into compliance).
>>> ?MPAS was able to visit the remaining 2,927
>>> polling locations in
>>> ?2010.
>>>
>>> ?Overall, MPAS conducted on-site reviews of at
>>> least 95% of the
>>> ?polling places in Michigan.
>>>
>>> ?The on-site reviews conducted in 2010, exposed
>>> nearly 25% of the
>>> ?polling places that remained physically
>>> inaccessible as required
>>> ?by the Americans with
>>> ?Disabilities Accessibility Guidelines.
>>>
>>> ?Of the 3,457 polling locations noted above,
>>> 2,927 were assessed
>>> ?between May-August 2010.?Using the ADAAG
>>> as a benchmark to
>>> ?determine physical accessibility,
>>> ?over 800 polling locations within the 2,927
>>> locations visited,
>>> ?had physical barriers failing to comply with the
>>> ADAAG ?
>>> barriers
>>> ?that create potential
>>> ?difficulties to voters with disabilities on
>>> Election Day.
>>>
>>> ?Barriers can prevent people with disabilities
>>> from fully
>>> ?participating in all aspects of society because
>>> of their
>>> ?disability.?This might include
>>> architectural
>>> ?barriers, physical barriers, communication
>>> barriers, attitudinal
>>> ?barriers, cultural barriers, etc.?
>>> Throughout this project,
>>> MPAS?
>>> ?reviews focused primarily
>>> ?on physical and external barriers, which are
>>> defined as
>>> something
>>> ?material that blocks passage.?Physical
>>> barriers addressed in
>>> ?this report include objects
>>> ?in the environment such as inaccessible doors or
>>> doorways,
>>> ?inaccessible elevators or lack thereof,
>>> inaccessible door
>>> ?hardware, inaccessible parking, etc.
>>>
>>> ?Among the 2,927 polling locations visited in
>>> 2010, 28% did not
>>> ?meet accessibility standards.?Based on
>>> discussions with the BOE
>>> ?in 2008, when MPAS completed
>>> ?the unannounced visits, clerks were not only
>>> notified with a
>>> ?letter from MPAS concerning accessibility, but
>>> they were also
>>> ?notified by the Bureau of Elections.
>>> ?MPAS and the BOE required prompt reply about the
>>> municipalities
>>> ?plans to meet ADA requirements.?The
>>> letters contained a
>>> ?photograph of the problem area(s),
>>> ?along with the appropriate ADAAG citation.?
>>> Within a five month
>>> ?period, letters were sent to over 440
>>> municipalities concerning
>>> ?approximately 800 polling
>>> ?locations.
>>>
>>> ?As shown below, 28% of the polling places
>>> visited in 2010 had
>>> ?some type of physical barrier present at the
>>> time of review.
>>>
>>> ?The following chart highlights the most common
>>> number of
>>> physical
>>> ?barriers discovered at each location.
>>>
>>> ?A majority of the locations reviewed had only
>>> one physical
>>> ?barrier present.?While the largest and
>>> most frequent problem
>>> was
>>> ?related to parking, the types
>>> ?of barriers at each location varied as shown in
>>> the following
>>> ?chart.
>>>
>>> ?Text Box: Parking Signs: locations that had
>>> accessible parking
>>> ?but no signs posted?Parking:?
>>> locations that had no parking
>>> ?designated or noncompliant access
>>> ?aisles?Pathway:?barriers that
>>> existed between access aisles
>>> and
>>> ?entryway?Entrance:?problems such as
>>> door width, door
>>> ?thresholds, door hardware, vestibules,
>>> ?etc.?Ramps/Curbs: problems with curb cuts,
>>> ramps, handrails,
>>> ?thresholds greater than 1 inch, etc.
>>>
>>> ?Communicating Accessibility Problems with
>>> Election Officials
>>>
>>> ?After completing the on-site reviews, MPAS
>>> notified municipal
>>> ?clerks of locations where barriers were
>>> discovered.?Within a
>>> ?four-month period, over 440
>>> ?letters were sent to election officials.?
>>> By the end of 2010,
>>> 88%
>>> ?of those clerks responded back to MPAS with a
>>> plan of
>>> correction.
>>> ?In addition, MPAS
>>> ?provided technical assistance to the election
>>> officials on how
>>> to
>>> ?improve access to their polling location in
>>> order to come into
>>> ?compliance.젨잹ased on
>>> ?the responses received from clerks, 43% informed
>>> us they were
>>> ?would make the changes required; 31% corrected
>>> the barriers at
>>> ?the polling locations; 9%
>>> ?were going to apply for Access for All grant;
>>> and the remaining
>>> ?responses varied from clerk using temporary
>>> equipment.
>>>
>>> ?When a clerk informed MAPS that the work was
>>> completed, MPAS
>>> ?required documentation from each clerk proving
>>> or stating that
>>> ?the work had been completed,
>>> ?including photographs and/or copies of purchase
>>> orders.?A
>>> ?majority of the clerks responded either with a
>>> plan of
>>> correction
>>> ?for spring 2011 or with a
>>> ?statement that the work was completed.?
>>> MPAS is still waiting
>>> for
>>> ?some clerks to confirm that the work was done
>>> sufficiently.
>>> Once
>>> ?the removal of barriers
>>> ?at these locations has been verified, MPAS
>>> expects Michigan?
>>> ?polling place accessibility rate to rise to
>>> nearly 90 % ?--
>>> ?one of the highest in the nation.
>>> ?There remains, however, substantial work to be
>>> completed in the
>>> ?city of Detroit in order to reach this
>>> goal.?The remaining 12%
>>> ?of clerks, who did not respond
>>> ?to MPAS or the Bureau of Election with a plan of
>>> correction,
>>> will
>>> ?become a 2011 priority in order to attain 100%
>>> accessibility.
>>>
>>> ?NEXT STEPS
>>>
>>> ?While the focus of this report has been on
>>> reaching the 90%
>>> ?accessibility rate, there would still be
>>> approximately 10% of
>>> ?polling locations in Michigan
>>> ?that are not accessible to all voters.?
>>> Some clerks disagree
>>> with
>>> ?the findings and MPAS is working with those
>>> clerks.
>>>
>>> ?In 2011, MPAS will be re-visiting a number of
>>> polling locations
>>> ?that are still recorded as being inaccessible,
>>> breaking them
>>> into
>>> ?three categories: failure
>>> ?to communicate; work promised but documentation
>>> still needed;
>>> and
>>> ?locations requiring review by MPAS.
>>>
>>> ?MPAS will focus attention on election officials
>>> who have failed
>>> ?to respond to MPAS communication attempts.?
>>> This may involve
>>> ?revisiting the location (some
>>> ?clerks correct the problem even when they fail
>>> to respond),
>>> ?attending city council/township meetings, filing
>>> official HAVA
>>> ?complaints, and/or pursuing
>>> ?legal action under different funding
>>> sources.?MPAS?goal has
>>> ?always been to educate clerks and assist them
>>> with improving
>>> ?access first by proposing solutions
>>> ?to removing barriers.
>>>
>>> ?In 2011, MPAS will also direct its attention to
>>> monitoring the
>>> ?correction plans that election officials have
>>> submitted to
>>> ensure
>>> ?that barriers are removed.
>>> ?MPAS will review the remaining 150 polling
>>> locations that have
>>> ?not been visited yet.
>>>
>>> ?In Summary
>>>
>>> ?Throughout the 2010 project, the partnership
>>> between MPAS and
>>> the
>>> ?Michigan Bureau of Elections (BOE) was
>>> crucial.?The state
>>> ?reinforced the necessity of
>>> ?accessible elections.?They followed up
>>> with each municipality
>>> ?whose polling place was noted as being
>>> inaccessible in order to
>>> ?determine the jurisdiction's
>>> ?planned course of action.?In addition, the
>>> BOE coordinated and
>>> ?extended Michigan's polling place improvement
>>> grant well into
>>> the
>>> ?fall to assist municipalities
>>> ?in removing barriers to voting at no cost.
>>>
>>> ?Local election officials can either upgrade
>>> their polling places
>>> ?(with or without grant funds), or relocate the
>>> polling place to
>>> ?an accessible site.?The
>>> ?Bureau of Elections reports that due to the 2010
>>> project, they
>>> ?have seen a large increase in the number of
>>> municipalities
>>> ?applying for grant money.?In
>>> ?an effort to assist with the project, the BOE
>>> extended the
>>> ?typical grant cycle by two months, giving clerks
>>> additional
>>> ?opportunity to respond to MPAS?
>>> ?letter and correct the problem(s) by using grant
>>> funds.?The
>>> ?Michigan Bureau of Elections received 74 grant
>>> applications, the
>>> ?largest amount ever received
>>> ?in one grant cycle.?Of those 74 grant
>>> applications, 66
>>> ?applicants received letters from MPAS seeking a
>>> plan of
>>> ?correction - 89% of those who applied.
>>> ?A large number of municipalities have pledged to
>>> apply when the
>>> ?next grant period opens in early 2011.
>>>
>>> ?If the HAVA/PAVA program survives the President?
>>> proposed
>>> budget
>>> ?cuts, MPAS looks forward to continuing the
>>> partnership with the
>>> ?Secretary of State, ensuring
>>> ?all elections are accessible to all
>>> voters.?Additionally, MPAS
>>> ?encourages clerks to reach out to local
>>> disability groups for
>>> ?future trainings.?Listed
>>> ?below are additional recommendations moving
>>> forward.
>>>
>>> ?Summary/Recommendations:
>>>
>>> ???젨쟊ocal clerks must be
>>> required to notify the Bureau of
>>> ?Elections prior to relocating polling places.
>>>
>>> ???젨잸ccessibility checks
>>> should be completed when clerks
>>> ?change polling locations, to verify
>>> accessibility.?Reports
>>> (with
>>> ?photographs) should be submitted
>>> ?to the Bureau of Elections.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟍ew polling locations
>>> must be required to adhere to the
>>> ?Americans with Disabilities Act Accessibility
>>> Guidelines.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟕he advisory committee
>>> in charge of amending the State
>>> ?Plan (under HAVA) should re-convene and identify
>>> ways to hold
>>> ?clerks accountable and implement
>>> ?model oversight programs.
>>>
>>> ???젨잸ccess for All grant
>>> money should be available
>>> throughout
>>> ?the year, so accessibility problems can be
>>> addressed anytime
>>> they
>>> ?arise.
>>>
>>> ???젨쟕he Bureau of
>>> Elections and local clerks should continue
>>> ?working with disability advocacy organizations
>>> to complete
>>> ?year-round polling place accessibility
>>> ?audits and training to clerks.
>>>
>>> ?Accessibility Rate by County
>>>
>>> ?Table with 9 columns and 85 rows
>>>
>>> ?County
>>>
>>> ?Polling Locations
>>>
>>> ?Visited
>>>
>>> ?Accessible
>>>
>>> ?Barriers Discovered
>>>
>>> ?Percent Visited
>>>
>>> ?% Accessible of those Visited
>>>
>>> ?Now Complete
>>>
>>> ?% Now Accessible
>>>
>>> ?Alcona
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?Alger
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?50%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?Allegan
>>>
>>> ?37
>>>
>>> ?37
>>>
>>> ?35
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?95%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?97%
>>>
>>> ?Alpena
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?53%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?60%
>>>
>>> ?Antrim
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?60%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?73%
>>>
>>> ?Arenac
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?71%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?93%
>>>
>>> ?Baraga
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?17%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?33%
>>>
>>> ?Barry
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?83%
>>>
>>> ?Bay
>>>
>>> ?49
>>>
>>> ?48
>>>
>>> ?36
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?98%
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?Benzie
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?46%
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?Berrien
>>>
>>> ?57
>>>
>>> ?57
>>>
>>> ?43
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Branch
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?94%
>>>
>>> ?53%
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?88%
>>>
>>> ?Calhoun
>>>
>>> ?46
>>>
>>> ?43
>>>
>>> ?34
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?93%
>>>
>>> ?79%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?86%
>>>
>>> ?Cass
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?95%
>>>
>>> ?Charlevoix
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?69%
>>>
>>> ?Cheboygan
>>>
>>> ?20
>>>
>>> ?20
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?95%
>>>
>>> ?Chippewa
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?95%
>>>
>>> ?72%
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?94%
>>>
>>> ?Clare
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?84%
>>>
>>> ?81%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?94%
>>>
>>> ?Clinton
>>>
>>> ?28
>>>
>>> ?26
>>>
>>> ?24
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?93%
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?Crawford
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?86%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?86%
>>>
>>> ?Delta
>>>
>>> ?21
>>>
>>> ?20
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?95%
>>>
>>> ?55%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?60%
>>>
>>> ?Dickinson
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?40%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?73%
>>>
>>> ?Eaton
>>>
>>> ?36
>>>
>>> ?36
>>>
>>> ?28
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?83%
>>>
>>> ?Emmet
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Genesee
>>>
>>> ?119
>>>
>>> ?109
>>>
>>> ?84
>>>
>>> ?25
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?79%
>>>
>>> ?Gladwin
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?65%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?71%
>>>
>>> ?Gogebic
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?90%
>>>
>>> ?Grand Traverse
>>>
>>> ?28
>>>
>>> ?27
>>>
>>> ?27
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?Gratiot
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?Hillsdale
>>>
>>> ?21
>>>
>>> ?21
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?57%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?71%
>>>
>>> ?Houghton
>>>
>>> ?31
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?71%
>>>
>>> ?41%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?64%
>>>
>>> ?Huron
>>>
>>> ?30
>>>
>>> ?29
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?97%
>>>
>>> ?62%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?79%
>>>
>>> ?Ingham
>>>
>>> ?95
>>>
>>> ?81
>>>
>>> ?78
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?85%
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?Ionia
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?82%
>>>
>>> ?Iosco
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?93%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?Iron
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?50%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?Isabella
>>>
>>> ?25
>>>
>>> ?25
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?76%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?80%
>>>
>>> ?Jackson
>>>
>>> ?47
>>>
>>> ?45
>>>
>>> ?34
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?76%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?80%
>>>
>>> ?Kalamazoo
>>>
>>> ?97
>>>
>>> ?97
>>>
>>> ?79
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?81%
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Kalkaska
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?Kent
>>>
>>> ?209
>>>
>>> ?207
>>>
>>> ?174
>>>
>>> ?33
>>>
>>> ?99%
>>>
>>> ?84%
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Keweenaw
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?80%
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?Lake
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?53%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?Lapeer
>>>
>>> ?24
>>>
>>> ?24
>>>
>>> ?20
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?83%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?Leelanau
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?62%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?69%
>>>
>>> ?Lenawee
>>>
>>> ?30
>>>
>>> ?30
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?90%
>>>
>>> ?Livingston
>>>
>>> ?48
>>>
>>> ?45
>>>
>>> ?35
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?94%
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?Luce
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?Mackinac
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?50%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?60%
>>>
>>> ?Macomb
>>>
>>> ?235
>>>
>>> ?233
>>>
>>> ?188
>>>
>>> ?45
>>>
>>> ?99%
>>>
>>> ?81%
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?88%
>>>
>>> ?Manistee
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?73%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?93%
>>>
>>> ?Marquette
>>>
>>> ?29
>>>
>>> ?29
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?13
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?55%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?59%
>>>
>>> ?Mason
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?15
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?65%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?Mecosta
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?82%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?86%
>>>
>>> ?Menominee
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?88%
>>>
>>> ?57%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?57%
>>>
>>> ?Midland
>>>
>>> ?38
>>>
>>> ?29
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?76%
>>>
>>> ?76%
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?90%
>>>
>>> ?Missaukee
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?82%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?Monroe
>>>
>>> ?42
>>>
>>> ?36
>>>
>>> ?27
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?86%
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Montcalm
>>>
>>> ?26
>>>
>>> ?25
>>>
>>> ?21
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?84%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?Montmorency
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Muskegon
>>>
>>> ?72
>>>
>>> ?71
>>>
>>> ?68
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?99%
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?99%
>>>
>>> ?Newaygo
>>>
>>> ?28
>>>
>>> ?28
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?79%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Oakland
>>>
>>> ?410
>>>
>>> ?380
>>>
>>> ?292
>>>
>>> ?88
>>>
>>> ?93%
>>>
>>> ?77%
>>>
>>> ?46
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Oceana
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?Ogemaw
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?94%
>>>
>>> ?Ontonagon
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?71%
>>>
>>> ?30%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?30%
>>>
>>> ?Osceola
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?18
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?78%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?89%
>>>
>>> ?Oscoda
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?83%
>>>
>>> ?Otsego
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?7
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?90%
>>>
>>> ?Ottawa
>>>
>>> ?88
>>>
>>> ?88
>>>
>>> ?79
>>>
>>> ?9
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?90%
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?95%
>>>
>>> ?Presque Isle
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?81%
>>>
>>> ?Roscommon
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?11
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?Saginaw
>>>
>>> ?75
>>>
>>> ?75
>>>
>>> ?61
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?81%
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?Sanilac
>>>
>>> ?30
>>>
>>> ?30
>>>
>>> ?26
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?87%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?97%
>>>
>>> ?Schoolcraft
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?60%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?80%
>>>
>>> ?Shiawassee
>>>
>>> ?27
>>>
>>> ?27
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?10
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?74%
>>>
>>> ?St.?Clair
>>>
>>> ?52
>>>
>>> ?48
>>>
>>> ?44
>>>
>>> ?4
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?92%
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?98%
>>>
>>> ?St.?Joseph
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?17
>>>
>>> ?12
>>>
>>> ?5
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?71%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?82%
>>>
>>> ?Tuscola
>>>
>>> ?25
>>>
>>> ?24
>>>
>>> ?16
>>>
>>> ?8
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?67%
>>>
>>> ?2
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?Van Buren
>>>
>>> ?23
>>>
>>> ?22
>>>
>>> ?19
>>>
>>> ?3
>>>
>>> ?96%
>>>
>>> ?86%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?91%
>>>
>>> ?Washtenaw
>>>
>>> ?106
>>>
>>> ?100
>>>
>>> ?70
>>>
>>> ?30
>>>
>>> ?94%
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?0
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?Wayne
>>>
>>> ?568
>>>
>>> ?519
>>>
>>> ?325
>>>
>>> ?194
>>>
>>> ?91%
>>>
>>> ?63%
>>>
>>> ?28
>>>
>>> ?68%
>>>
>>> ?Wexford
>>>
>>> ?20
>>>
>>> ?20
>>>
>>> ?14
>>>
>>> ?6
>>>
>>> ?100%
>>>
>>> ?70%
>>>
>>> ?1
>>>
>>> ?75%
>>>
>>> ?Total
>>>
>>> ?3635
>>>
>>> ?3457
>>>
>>> ?2579
>>>
>>> ?878
>>>
>>> ?95.10%
>>>
>>> ?74.60%
>>>
>>> ?289
>>>
>>> ?83%
>>>
>>> ?table end
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:01:14 -0400
>>> From: Katie Wang <bunnykatie6 at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
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>>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>>> <CA+**6VNgMyPtC8awLRoQhU091dof4rjGOi**FVS4bBx+gsDuOzYY5w at mail.gmail.**c
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>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>> ?Chris, there is no Download button on Web
>>> Braille. Instead, when you
>>> are taken to the book itself, just press Space with s
>>> on your Braille
>>> Note and you will be prompted for where you would like
>>> to save the
>>> file and what you would like to name it. NLS saves
>>> each braille volume
>>> of a book in a separate file, so you will have to do
>>> this multiple
>>> times if you are dealing with a book that is in more
>>> than one volume.
>>> I have been a Web Braille user for many years and find
>>> it a great
>>> resource, although I have come to rely on Bookshare
>>> more in the past
>>> few years for pleasure reading since it has a much
>>> larger, more
>>> current collection.
>>> ?Lea, I don't think you are doing anything wrong
>>> on your end-- It
>>> might be a NLS database issue. I would suggest
>>> contacting your state
>>> NLS library again and see if they can get you
>>> some?sort of technical
>>> support contact info. Someone from the central
>>> program
>>> that
>>> administers the Web Braille service might need to look
>>> into your
>>> situation.
>>> ?Hope this helps!
>>> 젨쟇atie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/10/11, Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> I tried to sing up with this sight and when I log
>>> in it says my user
>>> name and password is wrong. I have called and
>>> gotten it changed three
>>> times and it still says it. wonder what I am
>>> doing wrong.
>>>
>>> On 7/9/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have a question for all you NLS Web Braille
>>> users! I recently
>>> registered for WebBraille, and am looking
>>> forward to all it has
>>> to offer.?But I do have this question:
>>> when I click on a link
>>> for a book, where can I find a link, button,
>>> or something where I
>>> can download the BRF file(s) onto my
>>> BrailleNote? I tried to
>>> download Walking Alone and Marching Together
>>> last night, and when
>>> I clicked on the link, it put me into the
>>> actual book to read
>>> online, but I wanted to download the book to
>>> read it in my
>>> BrailleNote's book reader at a later
>>> date.?How can I do this?
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!"
>>> (Camp Abilities motto)
>>>
>>> The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually
>>> impaired youth in
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>>> "I can!" How? Click
>>> on this link to learn more and to
>>> contribute:
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:46:14 -0400
>>> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list"
>>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal sites
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>>> <**B4037C3F7D6A496095F21D0D96442B**CF at OwnerPC
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>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe more than
>>> one blog.
>>> So what accessible sites are there??Do bloggers
>>> generally write first
>>> person stories, or about things they see that are more
>>> objective?
>>> Any of you have a blog??How often do you update
>>> it??Is it possible to
>>> upload photos to it to go along with your story? Or
>>> maybe you need sighted
>>> help to post photos?
>>> What about audio? What format do audio clips need to
>>> be in?
>>> Can you have more than one blog on the same site? Can
>>> you write as much as you want or is there a word
>>> limit?
>>> I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with friends and
>>> family. I figured
>>> blogging would be a neat way to write stories about
>>> myself, life and my
>>> opinions on things like books, technology, and
>>> religion.
>>>
>>> What site can you write like a journal about
>>> yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:50:08 -0500
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.**edu<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>> sites
>>> Message-ID:
>>> ????
>>>
>>> <CAO83KOvcw3DpL1u2R9+g_**RvWhXLH2gmZrbgwOouBK5VD3jm5RQ@**mail.gmail.c
>>> om
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>>
>>> Ashley:
>>> Why not start an accessible forum, online, for blind
>>> people?
>>> I've found an accessible one.
>>> V Bulletin, is quite accessible, with an audio
>>> captcha, (if they still have
>>> it.)
>>> To see 2 forums, from V Bulletin, here are some
>>> examples.
>>> www.apostolicfriendsforum.com, and
>>> www.goodnewscafe.net.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe more
>>> than one blog.
>>> So what accessible sites are there??Do
>>> bloggers generally write first
>>> person stories, or about things they see that are
>>> more objective?
>>> Any of you have a blog??How often do you
>>> update it??Is it possible to
>>> upload photos to it to go along with your story?
>>> Or maybe you need
>>> sighted
>>> help to post photos?
>>> What about audio? What format do audio clips need
>>> to be in?
>>> Can you have more than one blog on the same site?
>>> Can
>>> you write as much as you want or is there a word
>>> limit?
>>> I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with
>>> friends and family. I figured
>>> blogging would be a neat way to write stories
>>> about myself, life and my
>>> opinions on things like books, technology, and
>>> religion.
>>>
>>> What site can you write like a journal about
>>> yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ashley
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:42:30 -0400
>>> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list"
>>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>> sites
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <**AF7D2C5148FE4AC39D1C45AA2B6941**EB at OwnerPC
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
>>> charset="Windows-1252";
>>> ????reply-type=original
>>>
>>> Joshua,
>>> What is a forum like? Isn't that for a group of people
>>> to discuss something
>>> common?
>>> Is that how a forum differs from a blog?
>>> This would be a good idea if?I had several
>>> people interested in a forum.
>>> I'll see about it. I have a beep ball team and that
>>> was one of the things I
>>> wanted to blog about. But yes if more people want
>>> to
>>> post online, I'd like
>>> the idea of a forum. A blog would be more for my
>>> writings, if I do it.
>>>
>>> I'll check those links out and I'm glad to know they
>>> are accessible.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:50 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>> sites
>>>
>>> Ashley:
>>> Why not start an accessible forum, online, for blind
>>> people?
>>> I've found an accessible one.
>>> V Bulletin, is quite accessible, with an audio
>>> captcha, (if they still have
>>> it.)
>>> To see 2 forums, from V Bulletin, here are some
>>> examples.
>>> www.apostolicfriendsforum.com, and
>>> www.goodnewscafe.net.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe more
>>> than one blog.
>>> So what accessible sites are there??Do
>>> bloggers generally write first
>>> person stories, or about things they see that are
>>> more objective?
>>> Any of you have a blog??How often do you
>>> update it??Is it possible to
>>> upload photos to it to go along with your story?
>>> Or maybe you need
>>> sighted
>>> help to post photos?
>>> What about audio? What format do audio clips need
>>> to be in?
>>> Can you have more than one blog on the same site?
>>> Can
>>> you write as much as you want or is there a word
>>> limit?
>>> I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with
>>> friends and family. I figured
>>> blogging would be a neat way to write stories
>>> about myself, life and my
>>> opinions on things like books, technology, and
>>> religion.
>>>
>>> What site can you write like a journal about
>>> yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ashley
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:52:18 -0400
>>> From: Elizabeth <lizmohnke at hotmail.com
>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Thanks for the Help at National
>>> Convention
>>> Message-ID: <COL118-**W1316868A320E5058F0232FBA450@**phx.gbl
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I have done my best to thank everyone individually for
>>> the help they have
>>> provided me over the past week. However, I thought
>>> I
>>> would also send out a
>>> general message to thank anyone I may have missed
>>> along the way. My
>>> convention may not have gone the way I wanted it to
>>> go, but it was exactly
>>> what I needed for reasons I am not willing to share on
>>> such a public email
>>> list.
>>>
>>> Since the last time I checked the messages on this
>>> list was before
>>> convention, it is quite possible that someone may have
>>> already said what
>>> happened, or at least their version of the story.
>>> However, I have already
>>> shared my version of the story about a million times
>>> by now, so if you are
>>> curious as to what happened, you will just have to
>>> wait for another time.
>>>
>>> The bottom line is that I am going to be just fine.
>>> I
>>> just wanted to show
>>> my appreciation to those who may have helped me along
>>> the way.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:22:03 -0500
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.**edu<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>> sites
>>> Message-ID:
>>> ????
>>>
>>>
>>> <CAO83KOviXamrW81HF9NX+**T4LZ7M9pU3mnTrmuGYO794JtGARSg@**mail.gmail.c
>>> om
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>> Are you familiar with the beap baseball?
>>> I just heard about it, on the DJD Invasion.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> wrote:
>>> Joshua,
>>> What is a forum like? Isn't that for a group of
>>> people to discuss
>>> something
>>> common?
>>> Is that how a forum differs from a blog?
>>> This would be a good idea if?I had several
>>> people interested in a forum.
>>> I'll see about it. I have a beep ball team and
>>> that was one of the things
>>> I
>>> wanted to blog about. But yes if more people want
>>> to post online, I'd
>>> like
>>> the idea of a forum. A blog would be more for my
>>> writings, if I do it.
>>>
>>> I'll check those links out and I'm glad to know
>>> they are accessible.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:50 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>> sites
>>>
>>> Ashley:
>>> Why not start an accessible forum, online, for
>>> blind people?
>>> I've found an accessible one.
>>> V Bulletin, is quite accessible, with an audio
>>> captcha, (if they still
>>> have
>>> it.)
>>> To see 2 forums, from V Bulletin, here are some
>>> examples.
>>> www.apostolicfriendsforum.com, and
>>> www.goodnewscafe.net.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe
>>> more than one blog.
>>> So what accessible sites are there??Do
>>> bloggers generally write first
>>> person stories, or about things they see that
>>> are more objective?
>>> Any of you have a blog??How often do
>>> you update it??Is it possible to
>>> upload photos to it to go along with your
>>> story? Or maybe you need
>>> sighted
>>> help to post photos?
>>> What about audio? What format do audio clips
>>> need to be in?
>>> Can you have more than one blog on the same
>>> site? Can
>>> you write as much as you want or is there a
>>> word limit?
>>> I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with
>>> friends and family. I figured
>>> blogging would be a neat way to write stories
>>> about myself, life and my
>>> opinions on things like books, technology,
>>> and religion.
>>>
>>> What site can you write like a journal about
>>> yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ashley
>>>
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 04:50:20 +0000 (UTC)
>>> From: Amy Sabo <amylsabo at comcast.net
>>> To: "BLIND STUDENTS, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF"
>>> <NABS-L at NFBNET.ORG>,
>>> ????"OF BLIND STUDENTS,
>>> COLORADO ASSOCIATION" <CABS at NFBNET.ORG
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] aim problem
>>> Message-ID:
>>> ????<
>>>
>>>
>>> 1760385386.319978.**1310359820794.JavaMail.root@**sz0144a.emeryville.
>>> ca.mail.comcast.net
>>>
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> hello all,
>>>
>>> i hope that you are all doing well. i'm having
>>> problems with the latest
>>> version of aim. i have tried tabbing to all of the
>>> features on it to change
>>> the settings on it but, jfw won't let me do that.
>>> is
>>> there a way in where i
>>> can access aim with jfw? are there speciall scripts
>>> for jfw that i can use?
>>>
>>> thanks again and, i will talk to you all soon!
>>>
>>>
>>> hugs,
>>> amy
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:35:34 -0700
>>> From: "Humberto Avila"
>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list'"
>>> ????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] aim problem
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <**0FCAE1D24B6A42BD8B6BF6FDF4002D**EE at HumbertoAvila
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;??
>>> 젨쟠harset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> The last thing I heard about AOL Instant Messenger
>>> (AIM) was about 2 years
>>> ago on a podcast about JAWS and instant messaging (by
>>> the way, it was the
>>> FS
>>> cast). Maybe they have updated the software and now
>>> it
>>> is inaccessible with
>>> JAWS? I don't know...but, what version of JAWS are you
>>> using? Which
>>> operating system? Which version of aim?
>>> Cheers,?Humberto
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>> On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Amy Sabo
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:50 PM
>>> To: BLIND STUDENTS, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF; OF BLIND
>>> STUDENTS, COLORADO
>>> ASSOCIATION
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] aim problem
>>>
>>> hello all,
>>>
>>> i hope that you are all doing well. i'm having
>>> problems with the latest
>>> version of aim. i have tried tabbing to all of the
>>> features on it to change
>>> the settings on it but, jfw won't let me do that.
>>> is
>>> there a way in where i
>>> can access aim with jfw? are there speciall scripts
>>> for jfw that i can use?
>>>
>>> thanks again and, i will talk to you all soon!
>>>
>>>
>>> hugs,
>>> amy
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>>> t.humberto2
>>> %40gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 12
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:50:05 -0500
>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>>> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] iPal for sale
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <auto-000019992102 at mailfront3.**g2host.com<auto-000019992102 at mailfront3.g2host.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii";
>>> format=flowed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eye Pal for sale. $1299
>>> I can be contacted via email at mbrianwooten at gmail.com
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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