[nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years

[bookwormahb at earthlink.net]

That's good to know. With a crowd of blind people, I believe that braille 
menus and signs are quite helpful. You can then confirm you're at the right 
place by reading the sign or more importantly confirm you are at the right 
gender's restroom.
Actually, while the ADA requires braille signs, they are not covered by 
older buildings; only renovated ones. Also even after ADA was passed, there 
was a time frame that businesses did not have to comply; they did not have 
to comply immediately. If they do renovations, older buildings have to be 
ADA compliant though.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: T. Joseph Carter
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 7:01 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years

Both, actually.

The rooms had Braille signage (though it was a little weird), and the
restaurants had Braille menus available—at least the lounge did when
I went with the crew after the Bookshare meeting/party/thing.

Hotel staff at the Rosen Centre figured out a day or two in that when
a large bunch of us were coming in off the shuttle that there was a
particularly good spot to have someone stand to direct those less
skilled with travel skills toward the elevators without the need to
shout directions and were happy to do it.

They were at times more eager to help than needed, but that’s to be
expected when you’ve got so many of such wildly varying skill levels.

It was really a great experience—just a pricey one.

Joseph


On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 05:21:35PM -0400, bookwormahb at earthlink.net wrote:
>Joseph,
>Good. Are you refering to the main hotel or the overflow hotel?
>Glad they had a nice balance of being helpful. That is always nice for 
>crowd control and assisting people to go where they need to go efficiently.
>What accomodations did they provide if any, with NFB? I know NFB doesn't 
>believe in making many modifications, but I figured they may do a little. 
>Did they have braille numbers on doors? How about braille menus?
>
>Ashley
>
>-----Original Message----- From: T. Joseph Carter
>Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 3:57 AM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>
>The staff were helpful and usually not too overeager to provide help
>when not needed.  I was pleased with that.
>
>Joseph
>
>
>On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 09:21:22PM -0400, David Dodge wrote:
>>Personally, I have never encountered a more helpful staff in hotels than I
>>did in Orlando at Rosen. I have stayed in literally dozens of hotels and
>>they were by far the best so far.
>>
>>David
>>----------------------------------
>>David Dodge
>>Doctoral Degree Granting Institutions Rep.
>>State University of New York Student Assembly
>>English Major
>>University at Buffalo
>>306 Clemens Hall
>>Buffalo, NY 14260
>>daviddod at buffalo.edu
>>
>>
>>2011/7/14 Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>
>>>Probably because they got a great deal from Rosen Hotels, who I've heard
>>>has really supported NFB and was a sponsor for their tenBroek Law 
>>>Symposium
>>>in May.  I don't know though, just a guess.
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>>>
>>>The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps visually impaired youth in Maryland have 
>>>the
>>>ability to confidently say "I can!" How? Click on this link to learn more
>>>and to contribute: www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook at I
>>>C.A.N.  Foundation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <
>>>nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>Date sent: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:58:39 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>
>>>Anmol,
>>>Odd, why on earth are they having it in the same city for that long? That
>>>hasn't happened before.
>>>Do you know if its in the same hotel?
>>>Ashley
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Anmol Bhatia
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:50 PM
>>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>
>>>It was me who sent that message.  2013 to 2018 NFB conventions will be 
>>>held
>>>in Orlando.
>>>
>>>Anmol
>>>I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad.  Perhaps
>>>there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a 
>>>breeze
>>>among flowers.
>>>Hellen Keller
>>>
>>>
>>>--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Humberto Avila 
>>><avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>From: Humberto Avila 
>>><avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 8:42 PM
>>>I didn't send  that message.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>>On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:31 PM
>>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>
>>>Humberto,
>>>
>>>I thought 2012 would be in Dallas, as I heard from
>>>Dr.  Maurer at
>>>this year's convention.  Unless you mean 2018's would
>>>be in
>>>Orlando, making it six years.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities
>>>motto)
>>>
>>>The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps visually impaired youth
>>>in
>>>Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How?
>>>Click
>>>on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>>>www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook at I
>>>C.A.N.
>>>Foundation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com
>>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>Date sent: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>>
>>>The convention will actually be in Orlando for the next six
>>>
>>>years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Rachael Vacanti <revacanti at gmail.com
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Rachael Vacanti <revacanti at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention in Orlando for 5 Years
>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 2:28 PM
>>> I agree with Chris and Sherri.?
>>> I haven't seen the old schedule, but that's
>>> beside the point.?I flew down Saturday and didn't
>>> leave until the next
>>> Saturday.?You think I'd have time for fun
>>> right??Wrong.?I didn't get out
>>> of the hotel once.?I meant to go places, like the
>>> beach, Citywalk and Bubba
>>> Gump Shrimp, but I couldn't get there.?Why??
>>> Because there were too many
>>> things to do at convention.?Convention was awesome
>>> and I had a great time,
>>> but I really wanted to go out and explore Florida a bit
>>> more.?I looked at
>>> the agenda and technically, the first 3 days weren't
>>> "required".?General
>>> sessions didn't start until Wendsday.
>>>
>>> One thing I think might also help convention, is if they
>>> announce the state
>>> cacus.?I missed mine cause I had only heard about it
>>> once and I don't think
>>> he even told me where it was.?The states should get
>>> them sorted out before
>>> convention and email their state this is when and where
>>>it
>>> is.?I know that
>>> not everything can be perfect at a thing like this, but
>>> they did a very good
>>> job.?For my first time, it was pretty good.
>>>
>>> Rachael
>>>
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>>>
>>>젨?.  [Blindtlk] Convention in Orlando
>>> for 5 years (Chris Nusbaum)
>>>젨?.  Re: question about brail to word
>>> program? (Chris Nusbaum)
>>>젨?.  Re: [acb-l] polling place access
>>> issues to this day in mi
>>>???(Josh Gregory)
>>>젨?.  Re: question about NLS WebBraille
>>> (Katie Wang)
>>>젨?.  accessible blog and journal sites
>>> (bookwormahb at earthlink.net)
>>>젨?.  Re: accessible blog and journal
>>> sites (Joshua Lester)
>>>젨?.  Re: accessible blog and journal
>>> sites (bookwormahb at earthlink.net)
>>>젨?.  Thanks for the Help at National
>>> Convention (Elizabeth)
>>>젨?.  Re: accessible blog and journal
>>> sites (Joshua Lester)
>>>?10.  aim problem (Amy Sabo)
>>>?11.  Re: aim problem (Humberto Avila)
>>>?12.  iPal for sale (David Andrews)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>------------------------------**------------------------------**-----
>>>-----
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:00:41 -0400
>>> From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> To: NABS list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,
>>> NFBMD list <nfbmd at nfbnet.org>,
>>> NFB
>>>????history list <nfb-history at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] [Blindtlk] Convention in Orlando for
>>> 5 years
>>> Message-ID: 
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>>>
>>>?---- Original Message ------
>>> From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 19:59:44 -0400
>>>
>>> It was announced at the convention that conventions
>>> from 2013
>>> through 2017
>>> will be held in Orlando.?I wish we could extend
>>> the length of
>>> the convention
>>> back to how it was and NFB would
>>> organize tours for Wednesday afternoon.?That
>>> way, people could
>>> get excited
>>> about Orlando and have time to go places.?I
>>> liked the old
>>> schedule much
>>> better.?If we are going to keep people here for
>>> five years in a
>>> row, we need
>>> to give them ample opportunity to take advantage of
>>> all there is
>>> to do in
>>> Orlando.?Besides, I like the banquet the night
>>> before the last
>>> day of
>>> convention.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sherri Brun
>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making
>>> other
>>> plans." John
>>> Lennon
>>>
>>> Check out 
>>> http://www.**raceforindependence.org/goto/**Sherri.Brun<http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun>
>>>
>>> E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>>?NFBF Newsline? chair
>>> www.nfbnewsline.org
>>> Vice-president NFB Greater Orlando Chapter
>>> http://nfbfgoc.org
>>> Secretary FDCP INC
>>> www.fdcp.org
>>> Chair Orange County Disability Advisory Committee
>>>
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>>>.
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:07:57 -0400
>>> From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>????list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about brail to word
>>> program?
>>> Message-ID: 
>>> <4e19dc7c.4f76e50a.0805.**ffffb9de at mx.google.com<4e19dc7c.4f76e50a.0805.ffffb9de at mx.google.com>
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>>>
>>> You could also join the BrailleNote list, where users
>>> of the
>>> BrailleNote can talk about tips and tricks regarding
>>> the BN and
>>> ask questions when they're having technical
>>> problems.?Here's the
>>> link:
>>>
>>>www.list.humanware.com/**mailman/listinfo/braillenote<http://www.list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote>
>>>.?
>>> In
>>> the mean time, if you'd like, I can post your question
>>> to the BN
>>> list and forward you any responses off list.?
>>> Hope this helps!
>>>
>>>?Chris
>>>
>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp
>>> Abilities motto)
>>>
>>> The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually impaired
>>> youth in
>>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!"
>>> How? Click
>>> on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>>> www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook at I
>>> C.A.N.
>>> Foundation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>?Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>>?----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Humberto Avila" 
>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 22:54:22 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about brail to word
>>> program?
>>>
>>> Are you trying to convert the Braille Note native
>>> format
>>> documents into word
>>> documents.?If you want to do so, you will have
>>> to use your
>>> Braille note to
>>> do it because there is no program that will translate
>>> and convert
>>> Keyword
>>> Braille format (kwb) documents into Microsoft word
>>> (.doc)
>>> documents, unless
>>> you want to convert you .kwb files into .BRF files,
>>> and then use
>>> a program
>>> in your PC to convert .BRF files into .doc files--you
>>> will need
>>> Duxbury
>>> Braille translator (which costs about $900 for the
>>> license if you
>>> don't
>>> already have it--you can although try it for free but
>>> some
>>> functions will be
>>> disabled)
>>> I hope this was helpful to you.?Feel free to
>>> send another
>>> message off list
>>> if you can and I will give you more instructions--this
>>> is good
>>> practice for
>>> me because I will be a teacher of the blind teaching
>>> assistive
>>> technology.
>>> Cheers,?Humberto
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>> On Behalf
>>> Of Andi
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:27 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] question about brail to word
>>> program?
>>>
>>> I am sure this is a silly question but I have to
>>> ask.?I use to
>>> use my brail
>>>
>>> note quite a bit but now I use my laptop more, I was
>>> wondering if
>>> there is a
>>>
>>> program to change the files from the brail document to
>>> a word
>>> document?
>>> Please keep in mind I am not very tech savvy so the
>>> simpaler to
>>> use the
>>> better, but I still want it to do a good job.?
>>> thank you so much
>>> for your
>>> help.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Andrews
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 1:47 PM
>>> To: promotion-technology at nfbnet.**org <promotion-technology at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] GW Micro Announces Readit Wand:
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>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:20:18 -0400
>>> From: Josh Gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>????list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [acb-l] polling place access
>>> issues to this day
>>>????in mi
>>> Message-ID: 
>>> <4e19ed7d.907fe50a.6655.**ffffc150 at mx.google.com<4e19ed7d.907fe50a.6655.ffffc150 at mx.google.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1;
>>> format=flowed
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> OK, my thoughts.?They are, at the moment, each
>>> other's
>>> competetors/enemies/whatever.?**So, at the moment
>>> anyway, I doubt
>>> it.
>>> Best,
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> sent from my Apex
>>> Email: joshkart12 at gmail.com
>>>
>>>?----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:30:00 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [acb-l] polling place access
>>> issues to this
>>> day in mi
>>>
>>> I forwarded this because since the NFB is working to
>>> ensure
>>> accessible voting and was the driving force behind the
>>> Help
>>> America Vote Act (HAVA.) So, we might be able to work
>>> jointly
>>> with ACB on this.?What does
>>> everyone think?
>>>?Chris
>>>
>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp
>>> Abilities motto)
>>>
>>> The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually impaired
>>> youth in
>>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!"
>>> How? Click
>>> on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>>> www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook at I
>>> C.A.N.
>>> Foundation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>?Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>>?----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Joshua Lester 
>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.**edu<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 20:25:02 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [acb-l] polling place access
>>> issues to this
>>> day in mi
>>>
>>> Chris, why are you forwarding stuff from the ACB?
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/8/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>?Thoughts on this?
>>>
>>>?Chris
>>>
>>>?"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp
>>> Abilities
>>> motto)
>>>
>>>?The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually
>>> impaired youth in
>>>?Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I
>>> can!" How? Click
>>>?on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>>>?www.icanfoundation.info or like us on Facebook
>>> at I C.A.N.
>>>?Foundation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>?Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>>?---- Original Message ------
>>>?From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net
>>>?Subject: [acb-l] polling place access issues to
>>> this day in mi
>>>?Date sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:05:31 -0400
>>>
>>>?A Call to Action ?
>>>
>>>?Unfinished Business to Ensure Michigan Voters
>>> with Disabilities
>>>?Have Access to the Polls in 2012
>>>
>>>?A Public Report on
>>>?Polling Place
>>>
>>>?Accessibility in Michigan
>>>
>>>?Public Report by
>>>
>>>?Michigan Protection and Advocacy Service, Inc.
>>>
>>>?2011
>>>
>>>?Acknowledgements
>>>
>>>?Michigan Protection and Advocacy Service (MPAS)
>>> is Michigan?
>>>?designated agency to advocate and protect the
>>> legal rights of
>>>?persons with disabilities, mandated
>>>?by federal and state law.?MPAS receives
>>> funding from the
>>>?Administration on Developmental Disabilities,
>>> the center for
>>>?Mental Health Services ?Substance
>>>?Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration,
>>> the
>>>?Rehabilitation Services Administration, the
>>> Social Security
>>>?Administration, the State of Michigan
>>>?and from private donations.
>>>
>>>?Funding for this report has been made possible
>>> through the U.S.
>>>?Department of Health and Human Services,
>>> Administration for
>>>?Children and Families, and the
>>>?Administration on Developmental
>>> Disabilities.?The contents are
>>>?the sole responsibility of the author and do not
>>> necessarily
>>>?represent the official views
>>>?of the U.S.?Department of Health and Human
>>> Services.
>>>
>>>?2011 by Michigan Protection and Advocacy
>>> Service, Inc.?This
>>>?publication may be reproduced in part or in its
>>> entirety for
>>>?noncommercial purposes as long
>>>?as appropriate credit is given.
>>>
>>>?Table of Contents
>>>
>>>?Executive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Summary.......................**..............................**.....
>>>?
>>> ..............................**.....................5
>>>
>>>?Midterm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Report........................**..............................**.....
>>>?
>>>
>>>..............................**...........................6
>>>
>>>?Michigan? Polling Place Accessibility
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Project.......................**..............................**.....
>>>?.........7
>>>
>>>?Communicating Accessibility Problems with
>>> Election
>>>?
>>> Officials.....................**.................10
>>>
>>>?Next
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Steps.........................**..............................**.....
>>>?
>>>
>>>..............................**..............................**..11
>>>
>>>?In
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Summary.......................**..............................**.....
>>>?
>>>
>>>..............................**..............................**..11
>>>
>>>?Accessibility Rate Per
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>County........................**..............................**.....
>>>?.............................**...13
>>>
>>>?Executive Summary
>>>
>>>?In Michigan, voters with disabilities face
>>> obstacles at voting
>>>?locations often because their polling place
>>> lacks physical
>>>?accessibility.?The Help America
>>>?Vote Act (HAVA) acknowledged the unique
>>> obstacles faced by
>>> voters
>>>?with disabilities and authorized funding for the
>>> federally
>>>?mandated Protection and Advocacy
>>>?Voting Access programs (PAVA) to help remove
>>> barriers.
>>>?Unfortunately, this vital mandate has been
>>> targeted for
>>>?elimination in the President? proposed
>>>?2012 budget.
>>>
>>>?HAVA charged Michigan Protection and Advocacy
>>> Service, (MPAS),
>>>?and other Protection & Advocacy agencies
>>> with helping to ensure
>>>?the full participation of
>>>?individuals with disabilities in the electoral
>>> process,
>>> including
>>>?registering to vote, casting a ballot, and
>>> accessing polling
>>>?places.
>>>
>>>?The PAVA program at MPAS is designed to ensure
>>> that every
>>>?eligible Michigan resident receives equal access
>>> to their
>>> polling
>>>?location and has the opportunity
>>>?to cast an independent secret ballot.?MPAS
>>> staff members are on
>>>?the ground providing advice, technical
>>> assistance, and training
>>>?to election officials about
>>>?voting accessibility across the spectrum of
>>> disabilities.?The
>>>?agency also provides outreach and training to
>>> voters with
>>>?disabilities, poll workers, and
>>>?service providers.?MPAS and the Secretary
>>> of State of Michigan
>>>?partnered over the past six years working toward
>>> this goal,
>>> which
>>>?has been effective in
>>>?increasing physical access to polling locations
>>> throughout
>>>?Michigan.
>>>
>>>?Voting is a fundamental right protected by the
>>> United States
>>>?Constitution, upheld by the Supreme Court and
>>> subject to intense
>>>?public scrutiny each election
>>>?cycle.?Provisions within these protections
>>> prohibit
>>>?discrimination against people with disabilities
>>> in the electoral
>>>?process.?Exercising their Constitutional
>>>?right, however, has continued to be a challenge
>>> for individuals
>>>?with disabilities despite changes made to
>>> federal and state laws
>>>?intended to ensure full
>>>?participation.
>>>
>>>?Key Summary
>>>
>>>???젨잻isability advocates
>>> have visited 95% (3,457) and
>>>?reviewed the exterior of polling locations in
>>> Michigan.
>>>
>>>???젨쟖pon initial review,
>>> Michigan Protection and Advocacy
>>>?Service found that only 75% of 3,457 Michigan
>>> polling places
>>> were
>>>?compliant under the Americans
>>>?with Disabilities Act.
>>>
>>>???젨잸fter working with
>>> state and local officials, it is
>>>?anticipated that Michigan? accessibility rate
>>> will be increased
>>>?to 90% in 2012.
>>>
>>>???젨쟏f the locations that
>>> were inaccessible, 60% had one
>>>?barrier, 30% had two types of barriers, and 6%
>>> had three or more
>>>?types of barriers.
>>>
>>>???젨쟏nly six of the 84
>>> counties in Michigan were 100%
>>>?physically accessible upon initial visit.
>>>
>>>???젨쟋PAS continues to
>>> receive complaints regarding the
>>>?AutoMARK, Michigan? accessible ballot marking
>>> device.
>>>
>>>?Michigan has made great strides toward
>>> accessibility at the
>>>?polls.?This report will highlight the
>>> steps taken to ensure
>>> that
>>>?all polling locations throughout
>>>?Michigan are accessible to voters with
>>> disabilities.?In
>>>?addition, the report will offer recommendations
>>> for Michigan to
>>>?achieve and maintain an accessibility
>>>?rate of 100%.
>>>
>>>?2010 Mid Term Report
>>>
>>>?Acknowledging widespread irregularity throughout
>>> the country,
>>>?Congress passed the Help America Vote Act (HAVA)
>>> in 2002.?HAVA
>>>?included sweeping legislation
>>>?intended to modernize the electoral system for
>>> all voters,
>>>?including those with disabilities.?The
>>> Help America Vote Act
>>>?reinforced the application of
>>>?Title II of the Americans with Disabilities Act
>>> and Section 504
>>>?of the Rehabilitation Act.?Furthermore, in
>>> 2004, Michigan
>>>?lawmakers amended Michigan election
>>>?law (Public Act 92 of 2004) to require the
>>> removal of physical
>>>?barriers at polling locations.?
>>> Irrespective of both federal and
>>>?state law, 25% of Michigan's
>>>?voting locations continued to be inaccessible
>>> for the November
>>>?2010 general election.?To achieve an
>>> all-encompassing voting
>>>?standard for the fifty states,
>>>?HAVA included two key components for the
>>> disability community:
>>>
>>>???젨잸ll polling places
>>> must have at least one voting system
>>>?which allows all citizens to cast a ballot
>>> privately and
>>>?independently, whether or not one
>>>?has a disability.
>>>
>>>???젨쟔tates must ensure
>>> accessibility at all public polling
>>>?places in a manner compliant with the Americans
>>> with
>>> Disabilities
>>>?Act (ADA).
>>>
>>>?Accessible Voting System
>>>
>>>?In 2004, the disability community and the
>>> Michigan Secretary of
>>>?State? Bureau of Elections (BOE) carefully
>>> assessing which
>>>?accessible device would best
>>>?fit the needs of Michigan voters, and in 2006
>>> selected the
>>>?AutoMARK.?The AutoMARK is an accessible
>>> ballot marking device
>>>?that can be used by all voters
>>>?with or without disabilities.
>>>
>>>?Although every polling location is equipped with
>>> the AutoMARK,
>>>?each municipality is responsible for making sure
>>> it is set up
>>> and
>>>?operating properly.?Unfortunately,
>>>?MPAS continues to receive complaints about the
>>> AutoMARK.?Voter
>>>?complaints have included the following:?
>>> the AutoMARK was boxed
>>>?up on Election Day, unplugged,
>>>?jammed up, turned off, or set up so other voters
>>> could see the
>>>??ecret?ballot.?Complaints concerning
>>> jammed ballots have been
>>>?greatly reduced since the
>>>?last round of updates were completed.?
>>> Because the AutoMARK is
>>>?used only on Election Day, MPAS relies on voter
>>> feedback to
>>>?correct these kinds of problems.
>>>?MPAS continues to monitor and respond to
>>> complaints as they
>>>?arise.
>>>
>>>?Accessible Polling Places
>>>
>>>?Under HAVA, the federal government allocated
>>> money to assist
>>> with
>>>?the purchase of accessible equipment like the
>>> AutoMARK, but also
>>>?to help municipalities
>>>?make their polling places physically
>>> accessible.?Congress
>>>?recognized that in order for people to use the
>>> accessible voting
>>>?machines, the building must
>>>?also be accessible so voters can access the
>>> polling location and
>>>?voting equipment.?It is the local election
>>> officials?
>>>?responsibility to make sure all
>>>?polling locations are accessible on Election
>>> Day.?To help cover
>>>?the expense for removing barriers at polling
>>> locations, the
>>>?Michigan BOE administers a
>>>?grant program called Access for All, under the
>>> U.S.?Department
>>>?of Health and Human Services with funding
>>> allocated through
>>> HAVA,
>>>?to help the state comply
>>>?with HAVA.?In most circumstances, the
>>> Access for All grants
>>>?cover all costs associated with accessibility
>>> upgrades for
>>>?polling locations.
>>>
>>>?When Michigan? State Plan to implement
>>> provisions under HAVA
>>> was
>>>?initiated in 2004, municipal clerks were
>>> required to complete an
>>>?accessibility checklist
>>>?to determine whether or not their locations were
>>> accessible.
>>>?This was one of the state? first attempts to
>>> gather information
>>>?on Michigan? polling place
>>>?accessibility.?During this time, MPAS and
>>> other organizations
>>>?were working closely with individual election
>>> officials on
>>>?polling location reviews and
>>>?were also training the municipal clerks on the
>>> accessibility
>>>?requirements.?MPAS also spent a
>>> considerable amount of time
>>>?assisting clerks with assessing
>>>?the accessibility of their polling locations and
>>> helping them
>>>?apply for Access for All grant money.?MPAS
>>> found that the
>>>?accessibility data provided by
>>>?clerks was not, in certain instances, wholly
>>> reliable.
>>>
>>>?MPAS brought this to the Bureau of Election?
>>> (BOE) attention
>>> and
>>>?shared independent accessibility reviews with
>>> them.?The BOE has
>>>?since increased efforts
>>>?to ensure the accuracy of reporting by improving
>>> communication
>>>?and requiring additional documentation from the
>>> clerks.
>>>
>>>?In 2008, MPAS started to assess municipal
>>> polling locations
>>>?randomly, without notifying the election
>>> official in advance.
>>>?After compiling this data on
>>>?polling locations statewide, the systemic issue
>>> of
>>>?inaccessibility became a heightened
>>> concern.?Once these
>>> concerns
>>>?were communicated to the Bureau of
>>>?Elections, they backed a new initiative in 2010
>>> dramatically
>>>?increasing their involvement in the advancement
>>> of polling place
>>>?accessibility.
>>>
>>>?This same year, the federal government began
>>> reviewing how the
>>>?states were spending HAVA funds.?This
>>> fueled speculation that
>>>?the federal government would
>>>?eliminate the monies available under HAVA, since
>>> some states had
>>>?not spent their money, rather placing it in an
>>> account and
>>>?allowing the funds to gain
>>>?interest.?Concerned that Congress would
>>> pull the allocated
>>> funds
>>>?completely, which would prevent municipalities
>>> from accessing
>>>?money to make polling places
>>>?accessible, MPAS, along with the Michigan Bureau
>>> of Elections,
>>>?embarked on a project to ensure 100%
>>> accessibility at all
>>>?Michigan polling places.
>>>
>>>?Michigan? Polling Place Accessibility Project
>>>
>>>?In 2010, Michigan started building the framework
>>> of a statewide
>>>?plan to reach 100% polling place
>>> accessibility.?MPAS and the
>>>?Bureau of Elections strengthened
>>>?their partnership in order to achieve this
>>> goal.?Within this
>>>?plan, MPAS would review the exterior of all
>>> locations throughout
>>>?the state.?Michigan has
>>>?approximately 3,600 polling places in
>>> total.?MPAS had already
>>>?gathered information on 530 polling places prior
>>> to 2010,
>>>?therefore, did not revisit those
>>>?locations (some were initially accessible and
>>> others MPAS worked
>>>?closely with clerks to improve
>>> accessibility.?MPAS is still
>>>?working with clerks to bring
>>>?the remaining 57 of the 530 polling locations
>>> into compliance).
>>>?MPAS was able to visit the remaining 2,927
>>> polling locations in
>>>?2010.
>>>
>>>?Overall, MPAS conducted on-site reviews of at
>>> least 95% of the
>>>?polling places in Michigan.
>>>
>>>?The on-site reviews conducted in 2010, exposed
>>> nearly 25% of the
>>>?polling places that remained physically
>>> inaccessible as required
>>>?by the Americans with
>>>?Disabilities Accessibility Guidelines.
>>>
>>>?Of the 3,457 polling locations noted above,
>>> 2,927 were assessed
>>>?between May-August 2010.?Using the ADAAG
>>> as a benchmark to
>>>?determine physical accessibility,
>>>?over 800 polling locations within the 2,927
>>> locations visited,
>>>?had physical barriers failing to comply with the
>>> ADAAG ?
>>> barriers
>>>?that create potential
>>>?difficulties to voters with disabilities on
>>> Election Day.
>>>
>>>?Barriers can prevent people with disabilities
>>> from fully
>>>?participating in all aspects of society because
>>> of their
>>>?disability.?This might include
>>> architectural
>>>?barriers, physical barriers, communication
>>> barriers, attitudinal
>>>?barriers, cultural barriers, etc.?
>>> Throughout this project,
>>> MPAS?
>>>?reviews focused primarily
>>>?on physical and external barriers, which are
>>> defined as
>>> something
>>>?material that blocks passage.?Physical
>>> barriers addressed in
>>>?this report include objects
>>>?in the environment such as inaccessible doors or
>>> doorways,
>>>?inaccessible elevators or lack thereof,
>>> inaccessible door
>>>?hardware, inaccessible parking, etc.
>>>
>>>?Among the 2,927 polling locations visited in
>>> 2010, 28% did not
>>>?meet accessibility standards.?Based on
>>> discussions with the BOE
>>>?in 2008, when MPAS completed
>>>?the unannounced visits, clerks were not only
>>> notified with a
>>>?letter from MPAS concerning accessibility, but
>>> they were also
>>>?notified by the Bureau of Elections.
>>>?MPAS and the BOE required prompt reply about the
>>> municipalities
>>>?plans to meet ADA requirements.?The
>>> letters contained a
>>>?photograph of the problem area(s),
>>>?along with the appropriate ADAAG citation.?
>>> Within a five month
>>>?period, letters were sent to over 440
>>> municipalities concerning
>>>?approximately 800 polling
>>>?locations.
>>>
>>>?As shown below, 28% of the polling places
>>> visited in 2010 had
>>>?some type of physical barrier present at the
>>> time of review.
>>>
>>>?The following chart highlights the most common
>>> number of
>>> physical
>>>?barriers discovered at each location.
>>>
>>>?A majority of the locations reviewed had only
>>> one physical
>>>?barrier present.?While the largest and
>>> most frequent problem
>>> was
>>>?related to parking, the types
>>>?of barriers at each location varied as shown in
>>> the following
>>>?chart.
>>>
>>>?Text Box: Parking Signs: locations that had
>>> accessible parking
>>>?but no signs posted?Parking:?
>>> locations that had no parking
>>>?designated or noncompliant access
>>>?aisles?Pathway:?barriers that
>>> existed between access aisles
>>> and
>>>?entryway?Entrance:?problems such as
>>> door width, door
>>>?thresholds, door hardware, vestibules,
>>>?etc.?Ramps/Curbs: problems with curb cuts,
>>> ramps, handrails,
>>>?thresholds greater than 1 inch, etc.
>>>
>>>?Communicating Accessibility Problems with
>>> Election Officials
>>>
>>>?After completing the on-site reviews, MPAS
>>> notified municipal
>>>?clerks of locations where barriers were
>>> discovered.?Within a
>>>?four-month period, over 440
>>>?letters were sent to election officials.?
>>> By the end of 2010,
>>> 88%
>>>?of those clerks responded back to MPAS with a
>>> plan of
>>> correction.
>>>?In addition, MPAS
>>>?provided technical assistance to the election
>>> officials on how
>>> to
>>>?improve access to their polling location in
>>> order to come into
>>>?compliance.젨잹ased on
>>>?the responses received from clerks, 43% informed
>>> us they were
>>>?would make the changes required; 31% corrected
>>> the barriers at
>>>?the polling locations; 9%
>>>?were going to apply for Access for All grant;
>>> and the remaining
>>>?responses varied from clerk using temporary
>>> equipment.
>>>
>>>?When a clerk informed MAPS that the work was
>>> completed, MPAS
>>>?required documentation from each clerk proving
>>> or stating that
>>>?the work had been completed,
>>>?including photographs and/or copies of purchase
>>> orders.?A
>>>?majority of the clerks responded either with a
>>> plan of
>>> correction
>>>?for spring 2011 or with a
>>>?statement that the work was completed.?
>>> MPAS is still waiting
>>> for
>>>?some clerks to confirm that the work was done
>>> sufficiently.
>>> Once
>>>?the removal of barriers
>>>?at these locations has been verified, MPAS
>>> expects Michigan?
>>>?polling place accessibility rate to rise to
>>> nearly 90 % ?--
>>>?one of the highest in the nation.
>>>?There remains, however, substantial work to be
>>> completed in the
>>>?city of Detroit in order to reach this
>>> goal.?The remaining 12%
>>>?of clerks, who did not respond
>>>?to MPAS or the Bureau of Election with a plan of
>>> correction,
>>> will
>>>?become a 2011 priority in order to attain 100%
>>> accessibility.
>>>
>>>?NEXT STEPS
>>>
>>>?While the focus of this report has been on
>>> reaching the 90%
>>>?accessibility rate, there would still be
>>> approximately 10% of
>>>?polling locations in Michigan
>>>?that are not accessible to all voters.?
>>> Some clerks disagree
>>> with
>>>?the findings and MPAS is working with those
>>> clerks.
>>>
>>>?In 2011, MPAS will be re-visiting a number of
>>> polling locations
>>>?that are still recorded as being inaccessible,
>>> breaking them
>>> into
>>>?three categories: failure
>>>?to communicate; work promised but documentation
>>> still needed;
>>> and
>>>?locations requiring review by MPAS.
>>>
>>>?MPAS will focus attention on election officials
>>> who have failed
>>>?to respond to MPAS communication attempts.?
>>> This may involve
>>>?revisiting the location (some
>>>?clerks correct the problem even when they fail
>>> to respond),
>>>?attending city council/township meetings, filing
>>> official HAVA
>>>?complaints, and/or pursuing
>>>?legal action under different funding
>>> sources.?MPAS?goal has
>>>?always been to educate clerks and assist them
>>> with improving
>>>?access first by proposing solutions
>>>?to removing barriers.
>>>
>>>?In 2011, MPAS will also direct its attention to
>>> monitoring the
>>>?correction plans that election officials have
>>> submitted to
>>> ensure
>>>?that barriers are removed.
>>>?MPAS will review the remaining 150 polling
>>> locations that have
>>>?not been visited yet.
>>>
>>>?In Summary
>>>
>>>?Throughout the 2010 project, the partnership
>>> between MPAS and
>>> the
>>>?Michigan Bureau of Elections (BOE) was
>>> crucial.?The state
>>>?reinforced the necessity of
>>>?accessible elections.?They followed up
>>> with each municipality
>>>?whose polling place was noted as being
>>> inaccessible in order to
>>>?determine the jurisdiction's
>>>?planned course of action.?In addition, the
>>> BOE coordinated and
>>>?extended Michigan's polling place improvement
>>> grant well into
>>> the
>>>?fall to assist municipalities
>>>?in removing barriers to voting at no cost.
>>>
>>>?Local election officials can either upgrade
>>> their polling places
>>>?(with or without grant funds), or relocate the
>>> polling place to
>>>?an accessible site.?The
>>>?Bureau of Elections reports that due to the 2010
>>> project, they
>>>?have seen a large increase in the number of
>>> municipalities
>>>?applying for grant money.?In
>>>?an effort to assist with the project, the BOE
>>> extended the
>>>?typical grant cycle by two months, giving clerks
>>> additional
>>>?opportunity to respond to MPAS?
>>>?letter and correct the problem(s) by using grant
>>> funds.?The
>>>?Michigan Bureau of Elections received 74 grant
>>> applications, the
>>>?largest amount ever received
>>>?in one grant cycle.?Of those 74 grant
>>> applications, 66
>>>?applicants received letters from MPAS seeking a
>>> plan of
>>>?correction - 89% of those who applied.
>>>?A large number of municipalities have pledged to
>>> apply when the
>>>?next grant period opens in early 2011.
>>>
>>>?If the HAVA/PAVA program survives the President?
>>> proposed
>>> budget
>>>?cuts, MPAS looks forward to continuing the
>>> partnership with the
>>>?Secretary of State, ensuring
>>>?all elections are accessible to all
>>> voters.?Additionally, MPAS
>>>?encourages clerks to reach out to local
>>> disability groups for
>>>?future trainings.?Listed
>>>?below are additional recommendations moving
>>> forward.
>>>
>>>?Summary/Recommendations:
>>>
>>>???젨쟊ocal clerks must be
>>> required to notify the Bureau of
>>>?Elections prior to relocating polling places.
>>>
>>>???젨잸ccessibility checks
>>> should be completed when clerks
>>>?change polling locations, to verify
>>> accessibility.?Reports
>>> (with
>>>?photographs) should be submitted
>>>?to the Bureau of Elections.
>>>
>>>???젨쟍ew polling locations
>>> must be required to adhere to the
>>>?Americans with Disabilities Act Accessibility
>>> Guidelines.
>>>
>>>???젨쟕he advisory committee
>>> in charge of amending the State
>>>?Plan (under HAVA) should re-convene and identify
>>> ways to hold
>>>?clerks accountable and implement
>>>?model oversight programs.
>>>
>>>???젨잸ccess for All grant
>>> money should be available
>>> throughout
>>>?the year, so accessibility problems can be
>>> addressed anytime
>>> they
>>>?arise.
>>>
>>>???젨쟕he Bureau of
>>> Elections and local clerks should continue
>>>?working with disability advocacy organizations
>>> to complete
>>>?year-round polling place accessibility
>>>?audits and training to clerks.
>>>
>>>?Accessibility Rate by County
>>>
>>>?Table with 9 columns and 85 rows
>>>
>>>?County
>>>
>>>?Polling Locations
>>>
>>>?Visited
>>>
>>>?Accessible
>>>
>>>?Barriers Discovered
>>>
>>>?Percent Visited
>>>
>>>?% Accessible of those Visited
>>>
>>>?Now Complete
>>>
>>>?% Now Accessible
>>>
>>>?Alcona
>>>
>>>?12
>>>
>>>?12
>>>
>>>?8
>>>
>>>?4
>>>
>>>?100%
>>>
>>>?67%
>>>
>>>?3
>>>
>>>?92%
>>>
>>>?Alger
>>>
>>>?10
>>>
>>>?10
>>>
>>>?5
>>>
>>>?5
>>>
>>>?100%
>>>
>>>?50%
>>>
>>>?5
>>>
>>>?100%
>>>
>>>?Allegan
>>>
>>>?37
>>>
>>>?37
>>>
>>>?35
>>>
>>>?2
>>>
>>>?100%
>>>
>>>?95%
>>>
>>>?1
>>>
>>>?97%
>>>
>>>?Alpena
>>>
>>>?15
>>>
>>>?15
>>>
>>>?8
>>>
>>>?7
>>>
>>>?100%
>>>
>>>?53%
>>>
>>>?1
>>>
>>>?60%
>>>
>>>?Antrim
>>>
>>>?15
>>>
>>>?15
>>>
>>>?9
>>>
>>>?6
>>>
>>>?100%
>>>
>>>?60%
>>>
>>>?2
>>>
>>>?73%
>>>
>>>?Arenac
>>>
>>>?14
>>>
>>>?14
>>>
>>>?10
>>>
>>>?4
>>>
>>>?100%
>>>
>>>?71%
>>>
>>>?3
>>>
>>>?93%
>>>
>>>?Baraga
>>>
>>>?8
>>>
>>>?6
>>>
>>>?1
>>>
>>>?5
>>>
>>>?75%
>>>
>>>?17%
>>>
>>>?1
>>>
>>>?33%
>>>
>>>?Barry
>>>
>>>?23
>>>
>>>?23
>>>
>>>?18
>>>
>>>?5
>>>
>>>?100%
>>>
>>>?78%
>>>
>>>?1
>>>
>>>?83%
>>>
>>>?Bay
>>>
>>>?49
>>>
>>>?48
>>>
>>>?36
>>>
>>>?12
>>>
>>>?98%
>>>
>>>?75%
>>>
>>>?1
>>>
>>>?77%
>>>
>>>?Benzie
>>>
>>>?13
>>>
>>>?13
>>>
>>>?6
>>>
>>>?7
>>>
>>>?100%
>>>
>>>?46%
>>>
>>>?4
>>>
>>>?77%
>>>
>>>?Berrien
>>>
>>>?57
>>>
>>>?57
>>>
>>>?43
>>>
>>>?14
>>>
>>>?100%
>>>
>>>?75%
>>>
>>>?8
>>>
>>>?89%
>>>
>>>?Branch
>>>
>>>?18
>>>
>>>?17
>>>
>>>?9
>>>
>>>?8
>>>
>>>?94%
>>>
>>>?53%
>>>
>>>?6
>>>
>>>?88%
>>>
>>>?Calhoun
>>>
>>>?46
>>>
>>>?43
>>>
>>>?34
>>>
>>>?9
>>>
>>>?93%
>>>
>>>?79%
>>>
>>>?3
>>>
>>>?86%
>>>
>>>?Cass
>>>
>>>?19
>>>
>>>?19
>>>
>>>?12
>>>
>>>?7
>>>
>>>?100%
>>>
>>>?63%
>>>
>>>?6
>>>
>>>?95%
>>>
>>>?Charlevoix
>>>
>>>?18
>>>
>>>?16
>>>
>>>?10
>>>
>>>?6
>>>
>>>?89%
>>>
>>>?63%
>>>
>>>?1
>>>
>>>?69%
>>>
>>>?Cheboygan
>>>
>>>?20
>>>
>>>?20
>>>
>>>?14
>>>
>>>?6
>>>
>>>?100%
>>>
>>>?70%
>>>
>>>?5
>>>
>>>?95%
>>>
>>>?Chippewa
>>>
>>>?19
>>>
>>>?18
>>>
>>>?13
>>>
>>>?5
>>>
>>>?95%
>>>
>>>?72%
>>>
>>>?4
>>>
>>>?94%
>>>
>>>?Clare
>>>
>>>?19
>>>
>>>?16
>>>
>>>?13
>>>
>>>?3
>>>
>>>?84%
>>>
>>>?81%
>>>
>>>?2
>>>
>>>?94%
>>>
>>>?Clinton
>>>
>>>?28
>>>
>>>?26
>>>
>>>?24
>>>
>>>?2
>>>
>>>?93%
>>>
>>>?92%
>>>
>>>?1
>>>
>>>?96%
>>>
>>>?Crawford
>>>
>>>?7
>>>
>>>?7
>>>
>>>?6
>>>
>>>?1
>>>
>>>?100%
>>>
>>>?86%
>>>
>>>?0
>>>
>>>?86%
>>>
>>>?Delta
>>>
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>>>?table end
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:01:14 -0400
>>> From: Katie Wang <bunnykatie6 at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
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>>>????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about NLS WebBraille
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>>>????
>>>
>>>
>>><CA+**6VNgMyPtC8awLRoQhU091dof4rjGOi**FVS4bBx+gsDuOzYY5w at mail.gmail.**c
>>>om
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>>?Chris, there is no Download button on Web
>>> Braille.  Instead, when you
>>> are taken to the book itself, just press Space with s
>>> on your Braille
>>> Note and you will be prompted for where you would like
>>> to save the
>>> file and what you would like to name it.  NLS saves
>>> each braille volume
>>> of a book in a separate file, so you will have to do
>>> this multiple
>>> times if you are dealing with a book that is in more
>>> than one volume.
>>> I have been a Web Braille user for many years and find
>>> it a great
>>> resource, although I have come to rely on Bookshare
>>> more in the past
>>> few years for pleasure reading since it has a much
>>> larger, more
>>> current collection.
>>>?Lea, I don't think you are doing anything wrong
>>> on your end-- It
>>> might be a NLS database issue.  I would suggest
>>> contacting your state
>>> NLS library again and see if they can get you
>>> some?sort of technical
>>> support contact info.  Someone from the central
>>>program
>>> that
>>> administers the Web Braille service might need to look
>>> into your
>>> situation.
>>>?Hope this helps!
>>>젨쟇atie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/10/11, Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> I tried to sing up with this sight and when I log
>>> in it says my user
>>> name and password is wrong.  I have called and
>>> gotten it changed three
>>> times and it still says it.  wonder what I am
>>> doing wrong.
>>>
>>> On 7/9/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have a question for all you NLS Web Braille
>>> users! I recently
>>> registered for WebBraille, and am looking
>>> forward to all it has
>>> to offer.?But I do have this question:
>>> when I click on a link
>>> for a book, where can I find a link, button,
>>> or something where I
>>> can download the BRF file(s) onto my
>>> BrailleNote? I tried to
>>> download Walking Alone and Marching Together
>>> last night, and when
>>> I clicked on the link, it put me into the
>>> actual book to read
>>> online, but I wanted to download the book to
>>> read it in my
>>> BrailleNote's book reader at a later
>>> date.?How can I do this?
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!"
>>> (Camp Abilities motto)
>>>
>>> The I C.A.N.?Foundation helps visually
>>> impaired youth in
>>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say
>>> "I can!" How? Click
>>> on this link to learn more and to
>>> contribute:
>>> www.icanfoundation.info or like us on
>>> Facebook at I C.A.N.
>>> Foundation.
>>>
>>> Sent from my BrailleNote
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>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:46:14 -0400
>>> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list"
>>>????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal sites
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <**B4037C3F7D6A496095F21D0D96442B**CF at OwnerPC
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;??
>>> 젨쟠harset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe more than
>>> one blog.
>>> So what accessible sites are there??Do bloggers
>>> generally write first
>>> person stories, or about things they see that are more
>>> objective?
>>> Any of you have a blog??How often do you update
>>> it??Is it possible to
>>> upload photos to it to go along with your story? Or
>>> maybe you need sighted
>>> help to post photos?
>>> What about audio? What format do audio clips need to
>>> be in?
>>> Can you have more than one blog on the same site? Can
>>> you write as much as you want or is there a word
>>> limit?
>>> I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with friends and
>>> family.  I figured
>>> blogging would be a neat way to write stories about
>>> myself, life and my
>>> opinions on things like books, technology, and
>>> religion.
>>>
>>> What site can you write like a journal about
>>> yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:50:08 -0500
>>> From: Joshua Lester 
>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.**edu<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>>????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>> sites
>>> Message-ID:
>>>????
>>>
>>><CAO83KOvcw3DpL1u2R9+g_**RvWhXLH2gmZrbgwOouBK5VD3jm5RQ@**mail.gmail.c
>>>om
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>>
>>> Ashley:
>>> Why not start an accessible forum, online, for blind
>>> people?
>>> I've found an accessible one.
>>> V Bulletin, is quite accessible, with an audio
>>> captcha, (if they still have
>>> it.)
>>> To see 2 forums, from V Bulletin, here are some
>>> examples.
>>> www.apostolicfriendsforum.com, and
>>> www.goodnewscafe.net.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe more
>>> than one blog.
>>> So what accessible sites are there??Do
>>> bloggers generally write first
>>> person stories, or about things they see that are
>>> more objective?
>>> Any of you have a blog??How often do you
>>> update it??Is it possible to
>>> upload photos to it to go along with your story?
>>> Or maybe you need
>>> sighted
>>> help to post photos?
>>> What about audio? What format do audio clips need
>>> to be in?
>>> Can you have more than one blog on the same site?
>>> Can
>>> you write as much as you want or is there a word
>>> limit?
>>> I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with
>>> friends and family.  I figured
>>> blogging would be a neat way to write stories
>>> about myself, life and my
>>> opinions on things like books, technology, and
>>> religion.
>>>
>>> What site can you write like a journal about
>>> yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ashley
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>>>62%40students.pccua.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:42:30 -0400
>>> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list"
>>>????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>> sites
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <**AF7D2C5148FE4AC39D1C45AA2B6941**EB at OwnerPC
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
>>> charset="Windows-1252";
>>>????reply-type=original
>>>
>>> Joshua,
>>> What is a forum like? Isn't that for a group of people
>>> to discuss something
>>> common?
>>> Is that how a forum differs from a blog?
>>> This would be a good idea if?I had several
>>> people interested in a forum.
>>> I'll see about it.  I have a beep ball team and that
>>> was one of the things I
>>> wanted to blog about.  But yes if more people want
>>>to
>>> post online, I'd like
>>> the idea of a forum.  A blog would be more for my
>>> writings, if I do it.
>>>
>>> I'll check those links out and I'm glad to know they
>>> are accessible.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:50 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>> sites
>>>
>>> Ashley:
>>> Why not start an accessible forum, online, for blind
>>> people?
>>> I've found an accessible one.
>>> V Bulletin, is quite accessible, with an audio
>>> captcha, (if they still have
>>> it.)
>>> To see 2 forums, from V Bulletin, here are some
>>> examples.
>>> www.apostolicfriendsforum.com, and
>>> www.goodnewscafe.net.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe more
>>> than one blog.
>>> So what accessible sites are there??Do
>>> bloggers generally write first
>>> person stories, or about things they see that are
>>> more objective?
>>> Any of you have a blog??How often do you
>>> update it??Is it possible to
>>> upload photos to it to go along with your story?
>>> Or maybe you need
>>> sighted
>>> help to post photos?
>>> What about audio? What format do audio clips need
>>> to be in?
>>> Can you have more than one blog on the same site?
>>> Can
>>> you write as much as you want or is there a word
>>> limit?
>>> I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with
>>> friends and family.  I figured
>>> blogging would be a neat way to write stories
>>> about myself, life and my
>>> opinions on things like books, technology, and
>>> religion.
>>>
>>> What site can you write like a journal about
>>> yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ashley
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>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:52:18 -0400
>>> From: Elizabeth <lizmohnke at hotmail.com
>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Thanks for the Help at National
>>> Convention
>>> Message-ID: <COL118-**W1316868A320E5058F0232FBA450@**phx.gbl
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I have done my best to thank everyone individually for
>>> the help they have
>>> provided me over the past week.  However, I thought
>>>I
>>> would also send out a
>>> general message to thank anyone I may have missed
>>> along the way.  My
>>> convention may not have gone the way I wanted it to
>>> go, but it was exactly
>>> what I needed for reasons I am not willing to share on
>>> such a public email
>>> list.
>>>
>>> Since the last time I checked the messages on this
>>> list was before
>>> convention, it is quite possible that someone may have
>>> already said what
>>> happened, or at least their version of the story.
>>> However, I have already
>>> shared my version of the story about a million times
>>> by now, so if you are
>>> curious as to what happened, you will just have to
>>> wait for another time.
>>>
>>> The bottom line is that I am going to be just fine.
>>>I
>>> just wanted to show
>>> my appreciation to those who may have helped me along
>>> the way.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:22:03 -0500
>>> From: Joshua Lester 
>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.**edu<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>>????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>> sites
>>> Message-ID:
>>>????
>>>
>>>
>>><CAO83KOviXamrW81HF9NX+**T4LZ7M9pU3mnTrmuGYO794JtGARSg@**mail.gmail.c
>>>om
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>> Are you familiar with the beap baseball?
>>> I just heard about it, on the DJD Invasion.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> wrote:
>>> Joshua,
>>> What is a forum like? Isn't that for a group of
>>> people to discuss
>>> something
>>> common?
>>> Is that how a forum differs from a blog?
>>> This would be a good idea if?I had several
>>> people interested in a forum.
>>> I'll see about it.  I have a beep ball team and
>>> that was one of the things
>>> I
>>> wanted to blog about.  But yes if more people want
>>> to post online, I'd
>>> like
>>> the idea of a forum.  A blog would be more for my
>>> writings, if I do it.
>>>
>>> I'll check those links out and I'm glad to know
>>> they are accessible.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:50 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible blog and journal
>>> sites
>>>
>>> Ashley:
>>> Why not start an accessible forum, online, for
>>> blind people?
>>> I've found an accessible one.
>>> V Bulletin, is quite accessible, with an audio
>>> captcha, (if they still
>>> have
>>> it.)
>>> To see 2 forums, from V Bulletin, here are some
>>> examples.
>>> www.apostolicfriendsforum.com, and
>>> www.goodnewscafe.net.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/10/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I?m interested in starting a blog or maybe
>>> more than one blog.
>>> So what accessible sites are there??Do
>>> bloggers generally write first
>>> person stories, or about things they see that
>>> are more objective?
>>> Any of you have a blog??How often do
>>> you update it??Is it possible to
>>> upload photos to it to go along with your
>>> story? Or maybe you need
>>> sighted
>>> help to post photos?
>>> What about audio? What format do audio clips
>>> need to be in?
>>> Can you have more than one blog on the same
>>> site? Can
>>> you write as much as you want or is there a
>>> word limit?
>>> I enjoy writing and I?d like to share with
>>> friends and family.  I figured
>>> blogging would be a neat way to write stories
>>> about myself, life and my
>>> opinions on things like books, technology,
>>> and religion.
>>>
>>> What site can you write like a journal about
>>> yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ashley
>>>
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>>>62%40students.pccua.edu
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>>>62%40students.pccua.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 04:50:20 +0000 (UTC)
>>> From: Amy Sabo <amylsabo at comcast.net
>>> To: "BLIND STUDENTS, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF"
>>><NABS-L at NFBNET.ORG>,
>>>????"OF BLIND STUDENTS,
>>> COLORADO ASSOCIATION" <CABS at NFBNET.ORG
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] aim problem
>>> Message-ID:
>>>????<
>>>
>>>
>>>1760385386.319978.**1310359820794.JavaMail.root@**sz0144a.emeryville.
>>>ca.mail.comcast.net
>>>
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> hello all,
>>>
>>> i hope that you are all doing well.  i'm having
>>> problems with the latest
>>> version of aim.  i have tried tabbing to all of the
>>> features on it to change
>>> the settings on it but, jfw won't let me do that.
>>>is
>>> there a way in where i
>>> can access aim with jfw? are there speciall scripts
>>> for jfw that i can use?
>>>
>>> thanks again and, i will talk to you all soon!
>>>
>>>
>>> hugs,
>>> amy
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:35:34 -0700
>>> From: "Humberto Avila" 
>>> <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.**com<avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list'"
>>>????<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] aim problem
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <**0FCAE1D24B6A42BD8B6BF6FDF4002D**EE at HumbertoAvila
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;??
>>> 젨쟠harset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> The last thing I heard about AOL Instant Messenger
>>> (AIM) was about 2 years
>>> ago on a podcast about JAWS and instant messaging (by
>>> the way, it was the
>>> FS
>>> cast).  Maybe they have updated the software and now
>>>it
>>> is inaccessible with
>>> JAWS? I don't know...but, what version of JAWS are you
>>> using? Which
>>> operating system? Which version of aim?
>>> Cheers,?Humberto
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org <nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>> On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Amy Sabo
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:50 PM
>>> To: BLIND STUDENTS, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF; OF BLIND
>>> STUDENTS, COLORADO
>>> ASSOCIATION
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] aim problem
>>>
>>> hello all,
>>>
>>> i hope that you are all doing well.  i'm having
>>> problems with the latest
>>> version of aim.  i have tried tabbing to all of the
>>> features on it to change
>>> the settings on it but, jfw won't let me do that.
>>>is
>>> there a way in where i
>>> can access aim with jfw? are there speciall scripts
>>> for jfw that i can use?
>>>
>>> thanks again and, i will talk to you all soon!
>>>
>>>
>>> hugs,
>>> amy
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>>>t.humberto2
>>> %40gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 12
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:50:05 -0500
>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>>> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] iPal for sale
>>> Message-ID: 
>>> <auto-000019992102 at mailfront3.**g2host.com<auto-000019992102 at mailfront3.g2host.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii";
>>> format=flowed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Eye Pal for sale.  $1299
>>>I can be contacted via email at mbrianwooten at gmail.com
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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