[nabs-l] rights as blind students and responsibilitiesofuniversities

Fri Jul 22 16:49:33 UTC 2011

Hi Anjelina and Everyone:

Anjelina, I would fight this so you can pave the way for other
students in the future.

Here is a link that might help you I found in Future Reflections.

It is www.nfb.org/technologyform.

I would fill this out and then contact the national office for help. I
don't remember everything that was said but at the NABS meeting last
year and at this year's convention they talked about access to
websites and such for students in higher education which you are a
part of. I forget who it was but this year there was a table in the
exhibit hall where you could go and talk to people about inaccessible
websites and such at your college. I did not go and do this but I know
it was there and I know it was talked about at length at last year's
NABS meeting.

Hope taht helps.
Kerri

On 7/13/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Humberto,
> You'll be alright and by the time you graduate I bet the economy will have
> improved.
> No we can't feel threatened or intimidated for asserting our rights.
> As for budgets, they can find the money to provide the minimum of services,
> the basics like access to textbooks and computers with screen readers.
> No they may not fix everything, but they can provide the basics. When more
> money comes in, hopefully blind students will get more services.
> As I said in other posts, colleges have money for entertainment and sports
> stuff, lots of it.
> So they can make a few thousand for assistive technology/books if they want
> to make it a priority. Those plasma tvs costs thousands that were just
> bought for nova's student lounges.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Humberto Avila
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:55 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] rights as blind students and
> responsibilitiesofuniversities
>
> And, are these negative attitudes towards are economy and our rights, to get
> accommodations, to get all the books that we request either in Braille or
> electronically, to get all our material on time, to get access to technology
> like the other students, and to get our access to our education, going to
> threaten the blind community?
> I understand the economy is suffering. I can understand that though
> the government is trying its best to help people in action, it is not and it
> is cutting federal funding as well as programs, and many businesses are in a
> budget now days. While these facts are true, what does this mean? Are
> federal and local governments also putting a budget cut within the
> disability support offices in colleges? Does this mean it will be much
> difficult to even request services from them?
> if this is truly happening, what should we do? As I embark into my
> freshman year in college, I am quite startled at these negative thinkings,
> or otherwise challenges, that we the blind would have to go through.
> I want to be able to contribute to taxes some day, get a stable
> good-paying career job, and do all that stuff, yet I'm not letting this
> stupid economy hold me back!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of T. Joseph Carter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:29 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] rights as blind students and responsibilities
> ofuniversities
>
> Be prepared to document EVERYTHING.  Get it in writing, save every
> email you receive or send out.  Come up with an indexing system now,
> because you'll need it later.  Don't expect that just because you're
> facing discrimination that the NFB will come to your rescue with
> legal help-I had email where the professors actively said they were
> looking for a student teaching site that would ensure I failed, and
> yet I had no support.
>
> You may never get anything for your efforts, and your efforts may be
> long indeed.  But you can pave the way for others, if you're
> determined to do it.  I was, and I did.  It ended my career before it
> began though.  Others have benefited from my work, including one of
> our scholarship winners this year.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 09:20:51PM -0400, wmodnl wmodnl wrote:
>>
>>
>>Get ready for retaliatory acts by your school.  Here in NYC at educational
> institutions such as CUNY, they are good at that.  Your grades and
> reputation will suffer.  I am unable to get into graduate school or get a
> job since I have been blasted on websites and blogs for my advocacy efferts.
> My GPA went from a 3.9 to a final 2.6.  So much for trying to ""lives the
> American dream." while helping others.  I dealt with this when the economy
> was good; just, picture what you are against now that every corporation
> blames the economy and current-day politics. This happens regardless of the
> special funding that they receive superseding the current economical
> situation.
>>Sorry for the rant,
>>Joe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:17:00 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] rights as blind students and responsibilities
> ofuniversities
>>>
>>> Anjelina,
>>> There are some similar issues at Nova, northern Virginia community
> college;
>>> I started a writing certificate there and ran into access issues. While
> the
>>> site for grades, transcripts, etc wasn't inaccessible, I'd say it wasn't
>>> very screen reader friendly.
>>>
>>> I complained about inaccessible stuff on the website like unlabeled
>>> graphics. I also requested an update to jaws in the library.
>>> I haven't seen much change; not to mention several violations of ADA to
> the
>>> environment for those with physical disabilities; all doors should be
> wide
>>> enough for wheel chairs and they need more push buttons for doors.
>>>
>>> Yes its reasonable to request jaws. Its about the same access; all other
>>> students have the access to computers on campus and you should have
> access
>>> to at least some of them. Your tuition covers technology access.
>>>
>>> I'd make a written complaint if I were you and go up the chain of
> command.
>>> Mention in your complaint about how schools need to comply with section
> 508
>>> regulations. I assume your school receives federal support and if they
> do,
>>> they are bound by civil rights laws like ADA and section 508 of the rehab
>>> act.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Anjelina
>>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:36 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] rights as blind students and responsibilities
>>> ofuniversities
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I hope all who attended convention had a great time. The stream was very
>>> informative.
>>> My University has gradually migrated to a system called Banner self
> service.
>>> All students are required to use the system for scheduling, financial
> aid,
>>> updating information among other functions. The site is not fully
>>> accessible. Even with Safari and Voiceover, JAWS with Firefox and IE9 I'm
>>> unable to activate buttons or links. I've contacted the ds office and the
>>> tech office. This might be a silly question but I'm wondering how much
> time
>>> is reasonable to give to see significant change?
>>> AAs a blind student is it unreasonable to request JAWS in the library, or
> am
>>> I responsible for providing a key? I've always just taken my laptop with
> me
>>> when having to do group work which is a work around.
>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>
>>> Anjelina
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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