[nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Sat Jun 18 13:59:31 UTC 2011


And=20Washington=20Seminar.=20=20What=20about=20the=20people=20who=20attend=
=20
Washington=20Seminar,=20where=20people=20can=20pay=20dues=20to=20NABS=20but=
=20there=20
are=20no=20elections,=20but=20not=20national=20convention,=20where=20there=
=20are=20
elections=20in=20which=20people=20who=20have=20paid=20dues=20either=20at=20=
convention=20
or=20at=20Washington=20Seminar=20can=20vote?=20According=20to=20the=20NABS=
=20
constitution,=20anyone=20who=20has=20and=20continues=20to=20pay=20dues=20(e=
ither=20at=20
national=20convention=20or=20Washington=20Seminar)=20have=20the=20right=20t=
o=20vote=20
in=20a=20NABS=20election,=20which=20only=20happens=20at=20national=20conven=
tion.=20=20
Therefore,=20currently,=20contributing=20members=20of=20NABS=20have=20the=20=
right=20
to=20vote=20at=20national=20convention.=20=20That=20implies=20that=20those=
=20people=20
can=20pay=20dues=20either=20at=20national=20convention=20or=20at=20Washingt=
on=20
Seminar.=20=20But,=20if=20someone=20is=20a=20contributing=20member,=20but=20=
can't=20for=20
some=20reason=20attend=20the=20national=20convention=20where=20the=20electi=
ons=20
are=20held,=20that=20person=20can't=20exercise=20the=20right=20to=20vote=20=
granted=20to=20
them=20in=20the=20NABS=20constitution.=20=20That=20is=20Jorge's=20point.=20=
=20Is=20this=20
making=20any=20kind=20of=20sense?

=20Chris

"A=20loss=20of=20sight,=20never=20a=20loss=20of=20vision!"=20(Camp=20Abilit=
ies=20motto)
To=20learn=20more=20about=20Camp=20Abilities=20and=20find=20a=20local=20cam=
p=20near=20
you,=20just=20click=20on=20this=20link=20to=20their=20national=20Web=20site=
:=20
www.campabilities.org.

The=20I=20C.A.N.=20=20Foundation=20helps=20visually=20impaired=20youth=20in=
=20
Maryland=20have=20the=20ability=20to=20confidently=20say=20"I=20can!"=20How=
?=20Click=20
on=20this=20link=20to=20learn=20more=20and=20to=20contribute:=20
www.icanfoundation.info.

=20Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Darian=20Smith=20<dsmithnfb at gmail.com
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Fri,=2017=20Jun=202011=2015:37:09=20-0700
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20proposition=20for=20amendment=20to=20constituti=
on

and=20yes,=20they=20do.
=20only=20people=20who=20are=20at=20convention=20can=20pay=20dues,=20so=20o=
nly=20peiople=20
at
convention=20can=20vote.=20=20This=20is=20the=20case=20with=20just=20about=
=20every=20
affiliate
and=20affiliated=20student=20division=20I=20am=20aware=20of.=20=20Besides,=
=20as=20
Arielle
pointed
=20out=20in=20another=20=20thread,=20we=20only=20collect=20dues=20at=20nati=
onal=20
convention

On=206/17/11,=20Darian=20Smith=20<dsmithnfb at gmail.com>=20wrote:
=20=20Well,=20now=20that=20I=20looked=20at=20=20it=20=20and=20thought=20abo=
ut=20it,=20=20George's
=20amendment=20=20called=20for=20=20the=20National=20Federation=20of=20the=
=20Blind,=20not=20
the
=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20to=20=20adopt=20this=20=
voting=20
practice.
=20=20If=20this=20amendment=20is=20something=20one=20would=20like=20to=20se=
e=20in=20our=20=20
national
=20constitution,=20it=20would=20not=20go=20=20the=20nabs=20president,=20as=
=20the=20
amendment=20is
=20=20no=20longer=20pertaining=20to=20nabs.=20=20(at=20least=20not=20in=20h=
ow=20it=20was=20
written).
=20=20One=20thing=20to=20keep=20in=20mind=20is=20that=20our=20=20national=20=
convention=20is=20=20
one
=20big=20business=20meeting,=20as=20such=20the=20business=20of=20the=20orga=
nization=20
has
=20been=20and=20is=20done=20in=20person.=20=20I=20believe=20that=20this=20s=
hould=20be=20kept
=20intact.=20=20otherwise,=20why=20have=20a=20=20convention=20to=20carry=20=
out=20
business?
=20=20=20Darian


=20On=206/17/11,=20Chris=20Nusbaum=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>=20wrote:
=20Marsha,

=20Let's=20go=20back=20to=20absenttee=20ballots=20again.=20=20You=20say=20t=
hat=20"this
=20would=20be=20a=20complicated=20process=20of=20tallying=20the=20votes."=20=
Well,=20the
=20local=20Boards=20of=20Elections=20would=20have=20to=20essentially=20do=20=
the=20same
=20thing=20with=20absentee=20ballots.=20=20How=20would=20they=20know=20that=
=20multiple
=20votes=20aren't=20being=20added=20by=20one=20person?=20The=20ballots=20ar=
e=20in
=20hardcopy=20print.=20=20How=20could=20this=20work=20for=20NABS?=20Hardcop=
y=20Braille
=20and=20large=20print!=20It=20seems=20simple=20to=20me.=20=20And,=20if=20t=
he=20whole
=20convention=20would=20want=20this,=20I=20say=20let=20them.=20=20That=20is=
,=20if=20the
=20board=20votes=20in=20favor=20of=20the=20proposed=20amendment=20if=20said=
=20proposed
=20amendment=20were=20proposed=20to=20be=20added=20to=20the=20NFB=20constit=
ution.

=20=20Chris

=20"A=20loss=20of=20sight,=20never=20a=20loss=20of=20vision!"=20(Camp=20Abi=
lities=20
motto)
=20To=20learn=20more=20about=20Camp=20Abilities=20and=20find=20a=20local=20=
camp=20near
=20you,=20just=20click=20on=20this=20link=20to=20their=20national=20Web=20s=
ite:
=20www.campabilities.org.

=20The=20I=20C.A.N.=20=20Foundation=20helps=20visually=20impaired=20youth=20=
in
=20Maryland=20have=20the=20ability=20to=20confidently=20say=20"I=20can!"=20=
How?=20Click
=20on=20this=20link=20to=20learn=20more=20and=20to=20contribute:
=20www.icanfoundation.info.

=20=20Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote

=20=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Marsha=20Drenth"=20<marsha.drenth at gmail.com
=20To:=20"'National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list'=
"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date=20sent:=20Fri,=2017=20Jun=202011=2012:07:35=20-0400
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20proposition=20for=20amendment=20to=20constit=
ution

=20In=20theory=20this=20is=20a=20good=20suggestion.=20=20But=20lets=20be=20=
realistic=20
here.
=20This=20would
=20be=20a=20complicated=20process=20of=20tallying=20the=20votes.=20=20If=20=
the=20students
=20were=20to=20do
=20this,=20the=20general=20convention=20would=20want=20this=20too.=20=20Its=
=20sad=20that
=20those=20who
=20can't=20be=20there=20can't=20vote,=20but=20that=20is=20where=20those=20w=
ho=20can't=20be
=20there,
=20should=20get=20involved=20to=20elect=20those=20who=20they=20feel=20would=
=20do=20the
=20best=20job
=20possible.

=20Say=20if=20you=20were=20to=20have=20a=20online=20way=20to=20take=20votes=
,=20how=20are=20you
=20going=20to
=20distinguish=20from=20those=20who=20are=20really=20not=20going=20to=20tho=
se=20who=20are
=20going=20to
=20convention=20but=20who=20want=20to=20vote=20and=20add=20votes=20to=20a=20=
particular
=20person
=20running.

=20Now=20correct=20me=20someone=20if=20I=20am=20wrong,=20isn't=20it=20true=
=20that=20you=20can
=20run,=20not
=20necessarily=20be=20there,=20and=20be=20elected?=20Or=20must=20you=20be=20=
present?
=20Different
=20divisions=20do=20this=20differently.

=20Marsha



=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
=20[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On=20Behalf
=20Of=20Jorge=20Paez
=20Sent:=20Friday,=20June=2017,=202011=2011:57=20AM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20proposition=20for=20amendment=20to=20constitution

=20Hello=20all:
=20I=20want=20to=20propose=20the=20following=20amendment=20to=20the=20const=
itution,=20
to
=20article
=20IV.




=20---


=20Voting


=20Due=20to=20the=20fact=20that=20there=20are=20people=20who=20will=20not=20=
be=20present=20at
=20the
=20convention=20due=20to=20issues=20beyond=20the=20membership's=20control,=
=20but=20
who
=20have=20paid
=20dues=20and=20do=20therefore,=20retain=20their=20right=20to=20vote,=20the=
=20NATIONAL
=20ASSOCIATION
=20OF=20THE=20BLIND=20shall=20henceforth=20recognize
=20these=20members=20by=20allowing=20them=20to=20vote,=20in=20such=20method=
s=20as=20are
=20legal=20and=20of
=20good=20practice,=20in=20all=20elections=20pertaining=20to=20the=20busine=
ss=20of
=20this
=20organization.



=20---


=20end=20of=20amendment.

=20The=20defense=20I=20put=20forth=20for=20this=20amendment=20is=20simple:=
=20if=20we=20are
=20to=20be=20a
=20democratic=20organization,=20and=20if=20we=20are=20truly=20the=20"voice=
=20of=20the
=20Nation's
=20blind"=20we=20must=20realize=20there=20are=20students=20who=20will=20not=
=20be=20able=20
to
=20attend=20but
=20who=20have=20paid=20dues,=20and=20these=20students=20must=20be=20recogni=
zed=20and
=20given=20the
=20chance=20to=20vote=20in=20elections.=20=20If=20not,=20we=20are=20violati=
ng=20our=20own
=20constitution
=20as=20article=20IV=20is=20doing=20as=20of=20this=20writing,=20by=20elimin=
ating=20those
=20members=20who
=20cannot=20attend=20convention,=20and=20therein=20setting=20only=20a=20cer=
tain
=20portion=20of=20the
=20student=20membership=20to=20vote.


=20Jorge
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=20--
=20Darian=20Smith

=20=93My=20secret?=A0=20See=20it,=20and=20stay=20focused=20on=20it.=94

=20=97=20Shaquille=20O'Neal



--
Darian=20Smith

=93My=20secret?=A0=20See=20it,=20and=20stay=20focused=20on=20it.=94

=97=20Shaquille=20O'Neal

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