[nabs-l] Questions About Getting New Laptop

Tue Jun 21 14:43:16 UTC 2011

All,

I=20will=20say=20this=20one=20thing=20and=20get=20out=20of=20it.=20=20My=20=
practice=20on=20
lists=20is=20if=20someone=20asks=20a=20question=20and=20after=20some=20disc=
ussion=20and=20
answers=20someone=20replies=20thanking=20us=20for=20all=20our=20answers,=20=
I=20think=20
that=20person=20is=20trying=20to=20end=20the=20discussion.=20=20Kerri=20did=
=20that=20
yesterday.=20=20So...

=20Chris

"A=20loss=20of=20sight,=20never=20a=20loss=20of=20vision!"=20(Camp=20Abilit=
ies=20motto)
To=20learn=20more=20about=20Camp=20Abilities=20and=20find=20a=20local=20cam=
p=20near=20
you,=20just=20click=20on=20this=20link=20to=20their=20national=20Web=20site=
:=20
www.campabilities.org.

The=20I=20C.A.N.=20=20Foundation=20helps=20visually=20impaired=20youth=20in=
=20
Maryland=20have=20the=20ability=20to=20confidently=20say=20"I=20can!"=20How=
?=20Click=20
on=20this=20link=20to=20learn=20more=20and=20to=20contribute:=20
www.icanfoundation.info.

=20Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Jorge=20Paez=20<computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2020=20Jun=202011=2021:41:01=20-0400
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Questions=20About=20Getting=20New=20Laptop

Actually=20I=20haven't=20had=20a=20single=20crash=20with=20Windows=207=20si=
nce=20I=20got=20
my=20machine=20a=20month=20ago.

And:
yes,=20Macs=20can=20be=20pricy=20but=20I=20think=20Apple's=20prices=20are=20=

justifiable--at=20least=20more=20then=20Sony's.

On=20Jun=2020,=202011,=20at=207:27=20PM,=20T.=20=20Joseph=20Carter=20wrote:=

=20People=20say=20Macs=20can=20be=20pricey!=20=20In=20the=20right=20configu=
rations,=20
they=20are.=20=20But=20they=20hardly=20compare=20to=20the=20price=20of=20mo=
st=20Sony=92s.=20=20
I=20don=92t=20know=20if=20the=20cost=20is=20quite=20justified.

=20But=20then=20again,=20I=20use=20Mac=20OS=20X=20as=20my=20primary=20OS.=20=
=20Mac=20OS=20X=20
exists=20because=20making=20UNIX=20user-friendly=20was=20easier=20than=20ma=
king=20
Windows=20not=20crash.=20=20*snicker*

=20Joseph

=20On=20Mon,=20Jun=2020,=202011=20at=2008:48:35AM=20-0400,=20Ignasi=20Cambr=
a=20wrote:
=20I=20must=20say=20though=20that=20I've=20had=20much=20better=20results=20=
with=20Sony=20
Vaio=20computers=20than=20with=20Toshiba.=20=20Vaio=20laptops=20seem=20to=20=
be=20more=20
durable=20and=20solid,=20and=20in=20general=20I=20would=20say=20they=20are=
=20a=20little=20
lighter=20than=20equivalent=20Toshibas.
=20In=20any=20case=20you=20can=20always=20try=20whatever=20laptop=20that=20=
you=20want=20to=20
get=20before=20you=20decide=20if=20you=20want=20to=20keep=20it=20or=20not.=
=20=20Best=20Buy=20
and=20others=20will=20generally=20allow=20you=20to=20return=20the=20compute=
r=20after=20
15=20days=20if=20you=20aren't=20happy=20with=20it.=20=20I=20have=20never=20=
had=20to=20do=20
that,=20but=20just=20having=20the=20option=20makes=20me=20feel=20like=20I=20=
can=20buy=20
what=20I=20think=20is=20right=20for=20me,=20knowing=20that=20I=20can=20exch=
ange=20it=20for=20
an=20other=20product=20if=20I=20made=20a=20mistake.
=20On=20Jun=2020,=202011,=20at=206:29=20AM,=20Jorge=20Paez=20wrote:

=20Kerri:
=20I=20went=20for=20the=20higher-end=20Core=20I7=20Toshiba=20laptops.

=20I'm=20quite=20happy=20with=20the=20performance,=20not=20to=20mention=20t=
he=20HD=20
audio=20and=203..0=20USB.

=20Don't=20get=20a=20Sony,=20just=20because=20the=20Sony=20laptop=20I=20saw=
=20was=20like=20
$2,000=20for=20like=20500=20GB=20of=20hard=20drive=20with=20core=20i3=20or=
=20something=20
like=20that=20while=20you=20could=20purchase=20a=20core=20I7=20from=20Toshi=
ba=20for=20
around=20$8=20to=209=20hundred.

=20On=20Jun=2020,=202011,=20at=202:00=20AM,=20Kerri=20Kosten=20wrote:

=20Hi=20All!

=20Thanks=20for=20the=20info.=20=20I=20really=20appreciate=20it!

=20I=20want=20to=20hopefully=20bring=20this=20new=20laptop=20to=20my=20upco=
ming=20trip=20to
=20Florida=20to=20visit=20some=20family=20so=20I=20think=20I=20am=20going=20=
to=20just=20go=20
for
=20windows=20and=20maybe=20get=20a=20mac=20later=20when=20I=20know=20I'll=20=
have=20more=20
time=20to
=20spend=20learning=20voiceover.

=20I=20did=20a=20quick=20search=20on=20Amazon=20for=20the=20I7=20laptops=20=
and=20the=20
cheapest
=20prices=20I=20can=20find=20are=20in=20the=20$800=20range.

=20What=20kind=20of=20budget/price=20should=20I=20go=20for?=20I=20guess=20t=
he=20more=20you=20
pay
=20the=20better...are=20the=20more=20expensive=20I7=20processor=20high=20en=
d=20
laptops
=20worth=20it=20over=20the=20much=20cheaper=20I3=20ones?

=20I=20don't=20want=20to=20be=20so=20cheap=20I=20get=20a=20crappy=20laptop=
=20but=20at=20the=20
same=20time
=20I=20don't=20want=20to=20get=20something=20that=20is=20overpriced=20and=20=
I=20end=20up=20
getting
=20screwed.

=20For=20those=20who=20have=20purchased=20laptops=20recently=20did=20you=20=
go=20for=20the
=20cheaper=20lower=20end=20or=20the=20more=20expensive=20higher=20end=20mod=
els?

=20I=20don't=20mind=20spending=20the=20money=20for=20something=20good=20but=
=20I=20also=20
don't
=20want=20to=20spend=20a=20ton=20on=20something=20and=20get=20screwed.

=20Thanks!
=20Kerri

=20On=206/19/11,=20T.=20=20Joseph=20Carter=20<carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>=20w=
rote:
=20For=20a=20JAWS=20user=20or=20Window=20Eyes=20user,=20the=20Mac=20is=20go=
ing=20to=20take=20a
=20little=20getting=20used=20to,=20but=20other=20than=20learning=20the=20ne=
w=20screen
=20reader,=20it=20functions=20basically=20as=20you=92d=20expect=20it=20to.=
=20=20The=20
option=20to
=20use=20a=20virtual=20machine=20to=20run=20Windows=20exists=20on=20a=20Mac=
=20as=20well,=20
and=20you
=20will=20find=20the=20MacBook=20Air=20in=20particular=20a=20joy=20to=20car=
ry=20after=20
lugging
=20around=20a=20larger,=20heavier=20laptop.

=20Most=20ultralight=20PCs=20are=20cheap=20netbooks=20and=20pretty=20sluggi=
sh.=20=20
They=92ve
=20got=20going=20for=20them=20the=20size=20and=20usually=20also=20the=20wei=
ght,=20but=20
they
=20sacrifice=20much=20in=20terms=20of=20function=20to=20do=20it.=20=20The=20=
difference=20
between
=20the=20MacBook=20Air=20and=20a=20more=20conventional=20laptop=20is=20that=
=20it=92s=20
missing
=20optical=20drive=20and=20ethernet=20port.=20=20And=20that=20it=20weighs=20=
half=20as=20
much!=20=20I
=20personally=20can=92t=20imagine=20carrying=20anything=20else=20anymore.

=20If=20you=20don=92t=20mind=20the=20heavier=20laptop,=20all=20the=20advice=
=20about=20what=20
to
=20look=20for=20in=20a=20good=20laptop=20(i7=20being=20more=20battery=20eff=
icient=20than=20
i3,
=20etc.)=20applies=20to=20Macs=20as=20well.

=20The=20one=20thing=20that=20will=20take=20getting=20used=20to=20if=20you=
=20use=20Windows=20
your
=20Mac=20(either=20via=20BootCamp=20or=20virtual=20machine)=20is=20the=20ke=
yboard.=20=20
You
=20will=20find=20that=20the=20Alt=20and=20Windows=20keys=20are=20reversed.=
=20=20The=20
keyboard
=20is=20basically=20done=20the=20way=20Mac=20keyboards=20have=20been=20for=
=20ages=97it=92s=20
just
=20that=20Apple=20and=20Microsoft=20happen=20to=20put=20the=20"alternative=
=20
function"=20and
=20"vendor=20logo=20function"=20keys=20in=20opposite=20locations.=20=20I=92=
ve=20gotten=20
used
=20to=20using=20Windows=20that=20way.=20=20To=20me=20it=92s=20no=20differen=
t=20from=20using=20
the
=20Control=20key=20versus=20the=20Command=20key=20for=20cut/copy/paste.=20=
=20I=20just=20
do
=20what=92s=20appropriate=20in=20the=20environment=20I=92m=20using=20pretty=
=20
automatically.

=20Joseph

=20On=20Sun,=20Jun=2019,=202011=20at=2007:55:28PM=20-0400,=20Kerri=20Kosten=
=20wrote:
=20Hi=20Everyone!

=20Well,=20after=20five=20years,=20it=20looks=20like=20I=20am=20going=20to=
=20have=20to=20get=20
a=20new
=20laptop.

=20I=20haven't=20had=20to=20look=20for=20a=20laptop=20in=20like=20five=20ye=
ars=20so=20I=20had=20
some
=20questions.

=20First,=20from=20an=20accessibility/screenreader=20standpoint=20what=20is=
=20
better
=20windows=20or=20Mac?=20Was=20the=20switch=20to=20mac=20from=20windows=20h=
ard?=20Was=20
voiceover
=20easy=20to=20get=20used=20to?=20Do=20you=20like=20your=20mac=20better=20t=
han=20windows?=20
I've
=20been=20told=20macs=20don't=20get=20viruses=20or=20have=20spyware=20and=20=
they=20seem=20a=20
lot
=20more=20durable.=20=20I=20have=20a=20friend=20who=20says=20he=20has=20had=
=20one=20for=20three=20
years
=20(he=20isn't=20blind)=20and=20he=20says=20other=20than=20spending=20some=
=20money=20on=20a
=20bigger=20hard=20drive=20and=20paying=20$25=20for=20one=20of=20the=20new=
=20OS=20updates=20
(I
=20believe=20it=20was=20snow=20lepoard)=20he=20said=20it=20works=20just=20a=
s=20fast=20and
=20everything=20as=20it=20did=20the=20day=20he=20got=20it.=20=20It=20seems=
=20with=20windows=20
the=20life
=20is=20only=20around=20four=20or=20five=20years=20old.=20=20Sighted=20peop=
le=20are=20
telling=20me
=20to=20go=20with=20mac=20but=20I=20know=20the=20world=20is=20still=20large=
ly=20dominated=20
by
=20windows.

=20For=20windows=20users=20who=20have=20purchased=20laptops=20recently=20wh=
at=20
things=20did
=20you=20look=20for=20in=20the=20laptop?=20What=20brands=20are=20people=20u=
sing=20with=20
the
=20windows=20screenreaders?=20I=20found=20a=20Tasheba=20satellite=20on=20Am=
azon.com=20
for
=20$479...it=20is=20usually=20$780=20but=20has=20been=20on=20sale=20for=20$=
479.=20=20It=20has=20
an=20I3
=20processor,=204=20gigs=20of=20ram,=20640=20gig=20hard=20drive,=20and=20a=
=2015=20inch=20
screen=20not
=20that=20that=20matters=20to=20me.=20=20Supposedly=20the=20battery=20lasts=
=20for=20five=20
hours.
=20I=20was=20going=20to=20just=20go=20with=20this=20one=20but=20i=20noticed=
=20it=20is=20rated=203
=20starrs=20on=20the=20customer=20reviews=20and=20I=20wonder=20why=20it=20h=
as=20dropped=20
so=20much
=20in=20price=20on=20Amazon.=20=20is=20anyone=20else=20using=20a=20tasheba=
=20and=20are=20they=20
good?
=20What=20things=20did=20you=20look=20for=20in=20you're=20laptop=20before=20=
purchasing=20
it?

=20The=20laptop=20I=20will=20likely=20get=20has=20Windows=207=20and=20is=20=
64=20BIT.=20=20Is=20
there=20any
=20big=20bugs=20I=20should=20know=20about=20with=2064=20BIT,=20Windows=207,=
=20and=20Jaws?=20
Do=20you
=20like=20windows=207=20overall?=20Is=20it=20better=20than=20windows=20vist=
a?=20My=20old=20
hp
=20laptop=20had=20windows=20vista=20on=20it=20and=20my=20netbook=20(which=20=
I=20am=20typing=20
this
=20on)=20has=20windows=20XP.

=20Even=20if=20Rehab=20or=20some=20other=20source=20purchased=20your=20lapt=
op,=20I=20am
=20noticing=20most=20of=20the=20new=20ones=20have=20similar=20specks:Window=
s=207,=20a=20
500=20gig
=20or=20bigger=20hard=20drive,=20I=203=20and=20up=20processor,=204=20gigs=20=
of=20ram.=20=20How=20
fast
=20are=20these?=20My=20laptop=20is=20so=20old=20I'm=20kind=20of=20excited=20=
and=20curious=20
to=20hear
=20about=20how=20fast=20the=20latest=20laptops=20with=20these=20new=20and=20=
improved=20
specks
=20are.

=20Thanks!
=20Kerri

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