[nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] Threw Our Eyes interview, Ride into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June 22, 8:00 pm EDT

Thu Jun 23 23:24:49 UTC 2011

Yes,=20we=20do=20stress=20independence=20here.=20=20But=20relying=20on=20te=
chnology=20
sometimes=20constitutes=20independence.=20=20Anmol,=20you=20have=20said=20b=
efore=20
on=20this=20list=20that=20you=20use=20JAWS,=20as=20do=20many=20other=20peop=
le=20on=20this=20
list.=20=20Many=20of=20us=20also=20rely=20on=20notetakers=20for=20school=20=
work=20and=20
homework,=20as=20well=20as=20using=20it=20for=20pleasure.=20=20This=20isn't=
=20
independence?=20Many=20Federationists=20also=20have=20human=20readers=20tha=
t=20
they=20use.=20=20If=20you=20go=20to=20the=20national=20center,=20they=20hav=
e=20a=20list=20of=20
recommended=20human=20readers=20in=20the=20Baltimore=20area.=20=20So,=20the=
n,=20how=20
is=20this=20not=20independent?

=20Chris

"A=20loss=20of=20sight,=20never=20a=20loss=20of=20vision!"=20(Camp=20Abilit=
ies=20motto)
To=20learn=20more=20about=20Camp=20Abilities=20and=20find=20a=20local=20cam=
p=20near=20
you,=20just=20click=20on=20this=20link=20to=20their=20national=20Web=20site=
:=20
www.campabilities.org.

The=20I=20C.A.N.=20=20Foundation=20helps=20visually=20impaired=20youth=20in=
=20
Maryland=20have=20the=20ability=20to=20confidently=20say=20"I=20can!"=20How=
?=20Click=20
on=20this=20link=20to=20learn=20more=20and=20to=20contribute:=20
www.icanfoundation.info.

=20Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Anmol=20Bhatia=20<anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Wed,=2022=20Jun=202011=2019:31:11=20-0700=20(PDT)
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20[Nfbnet-members-list]=20Threw=20Our=20Eyes=20
interview,Ride=20into=20History,=20Race=20for=20Independence,=20Wed.=20=20J=
une=20
22,=208:00=20pm=20EDT

Kirt,
You=20and=20Josh=20have=20valid=20points,=20but=20I=20have=20even=20a=20bet=
ter=20
solution!=20Lets=20make=20the=20currency=20identifable=20so=20that=20a=20bl=
ind=20
person=20would=20not=20have=20to=20find=20a=20friend=20or=20rely=20on=20tec=
hnology=20to=20
identify=20their=20money.=20=20Don't=20we=20stress=20independence?=20Well=20=
having=20
to=20ask=20someone=20how=20much=20money=20you=20have=20or=20dependenting=20=
on=20
technology=20to=20identify=20your=20money=20is=20not=20independence.=20=20T=
he=20
folding=20method=20is=20fine=20if=20you=20know=20how=20much=20money=20you=20=
have.
Anmol
I=20seldom=20think=20about=20my=20limitations,=20and=20they=20never=20make=
=20me=20sad.=20=20
Perhaps=20there=20is=20just=20a=20touch=20of=20yearning=20at=20times;=20but=
=20it=20is=20
vague,=20like=20a=20breeze=20among=20flowers.
Hellen=20Keller

---=20On=20Wed,=206/22/11,=20Kirt=20Manwaring=20<kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>=
=20
wrote:

=20From:=20Kirt=20Manwaring=20<kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20[Nfbnet-members-list]=20Threw=20Our=20Eyes=20=

interview,=20Ride=20into=20History,=20Race=20for=20Independence,=20Wed.=20=
=20June=20
22,=208:00=20pm=20EDT
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=
=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date:=20Wednesday,=20June=2022,=202011,=204:00=20PM
=20Joshua,
=20=A0=20Valid=20points.=A0=20I've=20got=20a=20solution=20for=20you=20that
=20doesn't=20cost=20a
=20thing.=A0=20Get=20a=20sighted=20person=20you=20trust=20to=20tell=20you
=20what=20your=20bills=20are
=20when=20you=20get=20them,=20and=20fold=20them=20so=20you=20can=20identify=
=20them
=20in=20the
=20future.=A0=20Inconvenient,=20maybe...but=20hey,=20if=20we're=20going
=20to=20fit=20in=20to
=20the=20world=20we've=20got=20to=20put=20up=20with=20some=20annoyances.
=20=A0=20BTW,=20what's=20wrong=20with=20a=2020=20cell=20display?=A0=20Not
=20ideal=20maybe=20but,=20hey,
=20maybe=20a=20rehab=20counselor=20would=20be=20more=20willing=20to=20get
=20something=20with
=20that=20much=20of=20a=20price=20reduction=20as=20compared=20to=20a=2040
=20cell.=A0=20I=20used=20a
=2020-cell=20PAC=20mate=20all=20through=20High=20School,=20an=2018-cell=20A=
pex
=20for=20my=20first
=20year=20of=20college,=20and=20the=20shorter=20displays=20work=20fine.
=20=A0=20Best,
=20Kirt

=20On=206/22/11,=20Joshua=20Lester=20<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
=20wrote:
=20This=20is=20what=20Allan=20Ramos=20told=20me.
=20He=20was=20a=20trainee=20at=20LWSB,=20when=20I=20was=20there.
=20He's=20a=20member=20of=20the=20CCB,=20(California=20Council=20of=20the
=20Blind,)=20(not=20to
=20be=20confused=20with=20Colorado=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind.)
=20I'm=20going=20on=20what=20he=20said.
=20Paper=20currency=20in=20the=20US,=20started=20with=20Andrew
=20Jackson.
=20Glenn=20Beck=20talks=20about=20this=20in=20great=20deal,=20in=20his
=20book,=20"Growth."
=20I've=20heard,=20that=20the=20debit=20cards=20are=20an=20alternative,
=20but=20we=20don't=20have
=20such=20a=20system,=20that=20is=20accessible=20to=20us,=20in=20my=20small=

=20town.
=20It's=20either=20what=20I=20suggested,=20or=20we=20should=20ask=20the=20N=
FB
=20to=20push=20the
=20companies=20that=20make=20accessible=20technologies,=20to=20make
=20their=20technology
=20affordable=20for=20all=20blind=20citizens,=20that=20need=20it.
=20That's=20my=20problem=20with=20the=20Blind=20Driver=20Challenge,
=20(for=20example.)
=20They=20will=20make=20this=20car,=20but=20they=20have=20to=20charge=20an
=20obseen=20amount=20of
=20money,=20for=20it.
=20I'm=20not=20going=20to=20be=20able=20to=20afford=20it.
=20I=20can't=20afford=20a=20Pac=20Mate,=20with=20a=2032=20cell=20Braille
=20display,=20and=20my
=20state=20won't=20purchase=20it,=20for=20my=20schooling.
=20I'm=20bringing=20this=20up,=20because,=20(back=20to=20the=20currency,)
=20the=20IBill=20costs=20$100.
=20The=20IBill,=20(I=20felt=20of=20one=20at=20convention=20last=20year,)=20=
is
=20as=20small=20as=20a
=20giga-pet.
=20I=20got=20one=20of=20those,=20for=20$5,=20when=20I=20was=20a=20child!
=20Why=20would=20I=20pay=20$100=20for=20something=20that=20small?
=20Make=20it=20affordable!
=20Blessings,=20Joshua

=20On=206/22/11,=20Anmol=20Bhatia=20<anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com
=20wrote:
=20Josh,
=20Your=20idea=20to=20have=20only=20coins=20is=20a=20good=20idea,=20but
=20not=20realistic.=20=20Can=20you
=20see
=20a=2050=20dollar=20coin=20or=20even=2020=20dollar=20coin?=20Paper
=20currency=20has=20been=20and=20will
=20always=20be=20a=20fabric=20of=20this=20country=20as=20it=20is=20in
=20every=20country.=20=20Which
=20country
=20has=20only=20coins=20and=20know=20paper=20currency?
=20I=20do=20not=20believe,=20but=20I=20could=20be=20wrong=20and=20please
=20correct=20me,=20but=20I=20do=20not
=20think=20that=20ACB=20is=20advocating=20only=20braille=20notes.
=20From=20my=20understanding
=20they
=20have=20been=20advocating=20a=20form=20of=20paper=20currency
=20which=20is=20accessible=A0=20and
=20afordable.=20=20Ovisily=20braille=20is=20not=20the=20most
=20afordable=20means=20to=20make=20paper
=20currency=20accessible.

=20Anmol
=20I=20seldom=20think=20about=20my=20limitations,=20and=20they
=20never=20make=20me=20sad.=20=20Perhaps
=20there=20is=20just=20a=20touch=20of=20yearning=20at=20times;=20but=20it
=20is=20vague,=20like=20a=20breeze
=20among=20flowers.
=20Hellen=20Keller

=20---=20On=20Wed,=206/22/11,=20Joshua=20Lester=20
<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
=20wrote:

=20From:=20Joshua=20Lester=20<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20[Nfbnet-members-list]
=20Threw=20Our=20Eyes=20interview,
=20Ride
=20into=20History,=20Race=20for=20Independence,=20Wed.=20=20June
=2022,=208:00=20pm=20EDT
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students
=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date:=20Wednesday,=20June=2022,=202011,=201:51=20PM
=20Anmol,=20it's=20amazing=20that=20you=20bring=20up
=20accessible=20currency.
=20What=20the=20ACB=20wants,=20is=20Brailled=20currency.
=20That=20isn't=20going=20to=20work.
=20I=20have=20the=20answer=20to=20the=20problem.
=20First=20of=20all,=20it's=20political.
=20I'm=20tired=20of=20people=20saying=20that=20the
=20conservatives=20aren't=20on
=20the=20side
=20of=20the=20blind.
=20When=20it=20comes=20to=20currency,=20they=20are.
=20Remember,=20when=20Reagan=20mentioned=20a=20return=20to
=20the=20gold
=20standard?
=20Coins=20are=20the=20answer=20to=20the=20problem.
=20We=20can=20identify=20the=20coins,=20by=20their=20texture.
=20We=20can't=20do=20this=20with=20paper=20currency.
=20That=20solves=20the=20problems=20with=20our=20currency.
=20This=20would=20help=20everyone,=20including=20us.
=20#1.=20=20You=20can't=20inflate,=20or=20deflate=20coins.
=20#2.=20=20You=20can't=20counterfeit=20coins.
=20#3,=20(Here's=20the=20thing=20that=20will=20help=20blind
=20people,)=20We=20can
=20identify
=20coins=20by=20their=20texture.
=20Would=20there=20have=20to=20be=20alot=20of=20changes=20made?
=20Yes,=20but=20is=20it=20worth=20it?
=20Yes!
=20Blessings,=20Joshua

=20On=206/22/11,=20Anmol=20Bhatia=20<anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com
=20wrote:
=20Jessica,
=20Good=20point.=20=20In=20addition,=20I=20would=20much
=20rather=20a=20blind
=20person=20to=20feel=20mobil
=20even=20if=20they=20don't=20have=20good=20mobility
=20skills=20and
=20frankly=20I=20would=20rather=20have
=20audible=20street=20lights=20then=20to=20see=20a=20blind
=20person=20get
=20killed=20because=20they
=20could=20not=20figure=20out=20how=20the=20traffic
=20goes.
=20Anmol
=20I=20seldom=20think=20about=20my=20limitations,=20and
=20they=20never
=20make=20me=20sad.=20=20Perhaps
=20there=20is=20just=20a=20touch=20of=20yearning=20at
=20times;=20but=20it=20is
=20vague,=20like=20a=20breeze
=20among=20flowers.
=20Hellen=20Keller

=20---=20On=20Wed,=206/22/11,=20Jessica=20<jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net
=20wrote:

=20From:=20Jessica=20<jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]
=20[Nfbnet-members-list]=20Threw
=20Our=20Eyes=20interview,=20Ride
=20into=20History,=20Race=20for=20Independence,
=20Wed.=20=20June=2022,
=208:00=20pm=20EDT
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind
=20Students
=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date:=20Wednesday,=20June=2022,=202011,=201:01
=20PM
=20There=20are=20certain=20types=20of
=20intersections=20where=20no=20matter=20how
=20long=20you=20stand
=20there=20and
=20listen=20to=20traffic=20you=20will=20never=20hear
=20a=20good=20cycle
=20so=20in
=20those=20cases=20I=20actually=20support=20aps.
=20Just=20keep=20that
=20in=20mind
=20when=20someone=20talks=20about=20every
=20intersection=20being
=20crossable
=20by=20listening=20to=20traffic.

=20Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone

=20On=20Jun=2022,=202011,=20at=209:57=20AM,=20Kirt
=20Manwaring=20<kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
=20wrote:

=20Anmol,
=A0=20It's=20a=20nice=20thought.=A0
=20Maybe=20it'll
=20be
=20possible,=20some=20day.=A0=20Never=20say
=20never,=20ri9ght?
=A0=20But=20here's=20the
=20thing.=A0=20The=20two
=20organizations=20have=20evolved=20two
=20separate=20philosophies=20and
=20mindsets.=A0=20I'm
=20doing
=20something=20really=20bad
=20and=20generalizing.=A0=20If
=20anyone=20who=20knows
=20more=20than
=20I=20do=20wants=20to=20correct
=20me=20here,=20feel=20free.
=A0=20The=20stance=20the=20ACB=20seems
=20to=20take=20more
=20often=20than
=20not=20is=20to=20make=20the
=20environment=20more=20accessible=20for
=20us.
=20This=20is
=20evidenced=20by=20their
=20support=20for=20audible=20street
=20signals=20(which
=20make=20a=20lot
=20of=20sense=20to=20me,
=20I'm=20not=20really=20convinced=20one=20way
=20or=20the=20other
=20on=20that
=20one=20yet),
=20tactile=20currency,=20descriptive
=20movies,=20the
=20provisions
=20in=20the=20ADA=20to
=20make=20ATMs=20accessible,=20the=2021st
=20century
=20communications
=20act,=20their
=20support=20for=20Randolph-Shepherd,
=20universal
=20design=20in
=20technology,=20etc.
=20They=20also=20use=20lots=20of=20their
=20resources=20to
=20fight
=20descrimination,=20at
=20least=20it=20seems=20that=20way=20to=20me.
=A0=20The=20NFB,=20on=20the=20other
=20hand,=20seems=20to
=20more=20often
=20than=20not=20advocate=20us
=20adapting=20to=20the
=20environment.=A0=20This=20is
=20evidenced
=20by=20the=20strict
=20standards=20of=20training=20centers,
=20pushing
=20braille,
=20opposition=20to=20the
=20tactile=20currency=20idea,=20advocacy
=20of=20relying=20on
=20traffic
=20rather=20than
=20audible=20signals=20(which=20makes=20a
=20lot=20of=20sense
=20to=20me),
=20our=20philosophy
=20that=20with=20the=20right=20training=20and
=20opportunity
=20we=20can
=20compete=20on=20an
=20equal=20footing,=20the=20idea=20of=20the
=20blind=20driver
=20challenge,
=20etc.=A0=20Of=20course
=20the=20NFB=20sometimes=20pushes=20making
=20changes=20in
=20the
=20environment=20(technology
=20bill=20of=20rights,=20Help=20America
=20Vote=20Act,=20and
=20the=20ADA
=20which=20we=20also
=20supported),=20and=20the=20ACB=20does
=20advocate=20for
=20quality
=20independence
=20training/O&M.=A0=20But,
=20those=20are=20the
=20rough
=20philosophies=20of=20the=20two
=20organizations,=20if=20we're=20going=20by
=20their
=20records.
=20Is=20the=20ACB=20wrong?
=20No,=20I=20don't=20think=20so,=20but=20the
=20NFB=20is=20more=20of
=20a=20fit
=20with=20my=20vision=20of
=20blindness.=A0=20I=20just=20think
=20thee=20two
=20separate
=20methodoligies=20willkeep=20us
=20from=20ever=20uniting=20as=20one
=20group...and=20that's
=20ok.
=20We=20all=20have=20the
=20right,=20even=20the=20obligation=20to
=20advocate=20for
=20ourselves
=20and=20those=20we
=20represent.=A0=20The=20ACB=20does=20it
=20their=20way,
=20we=20do=20it
=20ours.=A0=20Sometimes=20there
=20is=20overlap,=20lots=20of=20times=20our
=20philosophies
=20take=20us=20in
=20different
=20directions=20and=20put=20us=20on
=20opposite=20sides=20of
=20important
=20issues.=A0=20When=20our
=20aims=20are=20the=20same=20(or=20similar),
=20we=20need=20to
=20work
=20together=20and=20present=20a
=20united=20front.=A0=20When=20we=20are
=20at=20odds
=20(which=20we
=20often=20are,=20the=20two
=20organizations=20really=20are=20very
=20different),=20we
=20both=20have
=20the=20right=20to
=20push=20our=20separate=20agendas=20and
=20attempt=20to=20get
=20our
=20policies=20implimented.
=20Sometimes=20they=20win,=20sometimes=20we
=20win,=20that's
=20politics.=A0=20We=20don't=20have
=20to=20be=20bitter=20about=20it=20and,=20on
=20the=20personal
=20level,=20we
=20can=20still=20be=20good
=20friends=20even=20when=20our=20politics
=20are=20at=20odds.
=A0=20Just=20my=20thoughts,
=20Kirt

=20On=206/22/11,=20Anmol=20Bhatia=20<anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com
=20wrote:
=20Kirt,
=20You=20bring=20some=20vary=20valid
=20points,=20and=20yes
=20we=20have
=20beaten=20the
=20democrats/republicans
=20analogy=A0=20to
=20death=20but
=20it=20keeps=20coming=20up=20as=20a
=20comparison,=20so=20I=20will=20just
=20say=20one=20thing
=20about
=20this.=20=20I=20may=20have=20already=20said
=20this=20before=20on=20the=20list,=20but
=20please
=20furgive=20me=20if
=20I=20have.=20=20The=20blind
=20community=20is=20a=20to=20small=20of=20a
=20community=20to
=20be
=20divided=20on=20partizen=20lines=20like
=20democrats=20and=20republicans,
=20and=20our
=20challenges=20are
=20to=20great=20to=20be=20divided
=20like=20democrats=20and
=20republicans.=20=20Sure
=20there=20will=20be
=20differences=20between
=20members=20of=20the=20ACB=20and
=20members=20of=20the=20NFB
=20on=20how
=20business=20should=20be
=20conducted,=20but=20honestly
=20there=20differences
=20between
=20members=20of=20each
=20organization=20on=20how=20their
=20organization
=20should=20do
=20business.
=20True=20there=20were=20disagreement
=20on=20how
=20business
=20should=20and=20leadership=20issues
=20causing=20the=20split=20between
=20the=20NFB=20and
=20ACB,=20I
=20consider=20the=20leadership=20issues
=20to=20be=20pitty=20differences.
=20Often=20when=20one
=20candidate
=20loses,=20they=20and=20their
=20supporters=20go=20and=20form=20their
=20on
=20organization=20or
=20chapter.=20=20This=20happened=20at=20my
=20local=20NFB=20chapter=20and=20as=20a
=20result=20we=20have
=20two=20NFB
=20chapters=20in=20a=20small=20town.
=20Now=20some=20may=20consider=20this
=20to=20be=20a=20good
=20thing,=20but
=20think=20about=20how=20much=20more
=20we=20can=20achieve=20if=20we=20were
=20one=20NFB=20chapter
=20in
=20Fayetteville=20in=20recruiting,
=20fund=20raising=20and=20my
=20volunteers=20for
=20events.=20=20In
=20addition,=20these=20types=20of
=20childish=20arguements=20causes
=20many=20blind
=20people=20who
=20otherwise=20may=20be=20involved
=20in=20a=20blind=20organization=20to
=20be=20a=20"fense
=20sitters".
=20Now=20using=20this=20analogy=A0=20to
=20NFB=20ACB,=20ACB=20does=20not=20have
=20near=20the=20funds
=20that=20NFB
=20has,=20but=20they=20are=20not
=20poor=20eather.=20=20Their
=20attendence=20is=20not=20as
=20large=20at
=20the=20conventions,=20but=20it=20is
=20not=20small=20eather.=20=20Think=20if
=20both=20of=20these
=20organizations=20were=20together=20how
=20much=20more=20money=20we=20would
=20have=20to=20do
=20policy=20that
=20each=20organization=20does=20or
=20the=20advocacy=20work=20that=20each
=20organization
=20does,=20and=20think=20about=20how=20much
=20larger=20the=20convention=20would
=20be.=20=20We=20would
=20pack=20two
=20hotels=20full=20or=20near=20full.
=20In=20addition,=20think=20about=20how
=20much=20venders
=20would=20be
=20giving=20out=20in=20prizes
=20because=20now=20insteading
=20having=20to=20spend
=20money=20to
=20send=20their=20workers=20to=20two
=20convention,=20they=20will=20only
=20have=20to=20send
=20their
=20workers=20to=20one=20convention.=20=20In
=20addition,=20most=20venders=20give
=20out=20big
=20prizes=20at=20each
=20convention=20and=20if=20there
=20was=20only=20one=20convention,
=20they=20can=20give
=20two
=20prizes.
=20However,=20you=20are=20right=20in
=20that
=20realistically=20the
=20two=20organizations=20will=20not
=20merge=20any=20time=20soon.

=20best=20wishes,
=20Anmol
=20I=20seldom=20think=20about=20my
=20limitations,=20and
=20they
=20never=20make=20me=20sad.=20=20Perhaps
=20there=20is=20just=20a=20touch=20of
=20yearning=20at
=20times;=20but=20it
=20is=20vague,=20like=20a=20breeze
=20among=20flowers.
=20Hellen=20Keller

=20---=20On=20Tue,=206/21/11,=20Kirt
=20Manwaring
=20<kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
=20wrote:

=20From:=20Kirt=20Manwaring
=20<kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]
=20[Nfbnet-members-list]
=20Threw=20Our=20Eyes=20interview,=20Ride
=20into=20History,=20Race=20for
=20Independence,
=20Wed.=20=20June
=2022,=208:00=20pm=20EDT
=20To:=20"National
=20Association=20of=20Blind
=20Students
=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date:=20Tuesday,=20June=2021,
=202011,=202:51
=20PM
=20Anmol,
=A0=A0=A0I=20don't
=20really=20see=20a
=20merger
=20happening=20any=20time=20soon,
=20nor=20would=20I
=20want=20it=20to.=A0=20We've
=20all=20beaten
=20the
=20democrat/republican
=20analogy=20to
=20death...but=20imagine
=20Barack=20Obama=20and
=20Mitt
=20Romney=20in=20the
=20same=20political
=20party.=A0=20It=20just
=20wouldn't=20work.
=20There=20are=20huge
=20differences.=A0=20It
=20doesn't=20make=20the=20NFB
=20better=20for
=20everyone,=20but
=20it=20makes=20the
=20NFB=20better
=20for=20me.=A0=20I=20have
=20lots=20of=20respect
=20for=20my
=20friends=20in=20the
=20ACB=20who=20stand=20up
=20and=20fight=20for=20their
=20agenda.
=20Lots=20of=20the
=20times,=20it's
=20the=20same=20as=20mine.
=20When=20it's=20not,=20we=20can
=20talk=20without
=20being
=20jackasses=20to=20each
=20other=20and,
=20in=20a=20lot=20of=20cases,=20the
=20disagreement
=20actually
=20strengthens
=20our
=20friendship.
=A0=A0=A0I=20say
=20diversity=20is
=20good,
=20competition=20is=20good,=20we
=20need=20a=20free=20market
=20of=20ideas.=A0=20I
=20respect=20ACB=20and=20the
=20sincere
=20people=20there
=20trying=20to=20make
=20the=20lives=20of=20blind
=20people
=20better.=A0=20I
=20happen=20to=20find
=20the=20Federation
=20philosophy=20and=20method
=20more=20meaningful
=20for
=20me.=A0=20I=20want
=20to=20understand
=20the=20split.=A0=20From
=20the=20little=20bit
=20of
=20studying=20I've=20done,
=20I=20don't=20really
=20think=20it=20was=20petty
=20personal
=20differences=20but
=20rather
=20differing
=20philosophies=20about
=20methodology=20and
=20leadership
=20that=20drove
=20the=20two
=20groups=20to
=20separate.=A0=20We=20can=20be
=20different
=20without=20being
=20petty.=A0=20We=20can
=20disagree=20without=20being
=20bigots.
=20When=20our
=20two
=20organizations=20come=20down
=20on=20opposite=20sides=20of
=20important
=20issues,=20as=20we
=20often=20do,=20we
=20need=20not=20be
=20arrogant=20or
=20self-rightious=20because=20we
=20think
=20we're
=20right.=A0=20The=20fact
=20is,
=20we=20disagree.=A0=20And=20I
=20think=20the
=20disagreements=20are=20too
=20central=20to=20our
=20respective=20organizations
=20for=20us=20to
=20ever=20become
=20one.
=20But=20that=20doesn't
=20mean=20we=20can't=20be
=20friends,=20especially
=20on=20a
=20personal=20level.
=A0=A0=A0Best,
=20Kirt

=20On=206/21/11,=20Anmol=20Bhatia
=20<anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com
=20wrote:
=20Kirt,
=20You=20are=20bringing=20up
=20some=20vary
=20good
=20points...
=20Understanding=20the
=20history=20of
=20the=20NFB=20and=20ACB=20is
=20an=20import=20part
=20in=20the
=20history=20in
=20the=20blind=20movement=20and
=20an=20important=20part=20in
=20the=20history
=20of=20two
=20organizations.
=20Frankly=20in=20it=20is=20just
=20my=20oppinion=20both
=20organizations
=20bring=20value
=20and=20have
=20and=20continue=20to=20make=20a
=20difference=20for=20blind
=20people
=20across=20America
=20on=20a=20daily
=20bases.=20=20It=20is=20a=20shame
=20that=20this=20split
=20happened=20and=20just
=20maybe
=20the=20next
=20generation=20of=20blind
=20individuals=20our
=20generation=20or
=20those=20who
=20are=20younger
=20then=20can=20bring=20the=20two
=20organizations
=20together=20once
=20again.=20=20Now
=20this=20is=20just=20my
=20translation=20and=20my
=20oppinion,=20but=A0
=20it=20seems=20to
=20me=20that
=20the=20NFB=20ACB
=20split=20happened=20over
=20pitty
=20differences=20and=20two
=20individuals
=20with
=20different=20ideas
=20fighting=20for=20power.=20=20It
=20seems=20to=20me=20that=20the
=20hate=20the
=20two
=20organizations=20have
=20towards=20each=20other=20is
=20not=20as=20strong
=20amongest=20this
=20generation.
=20Infact=20many
=20members=20of=20NABS=20of=20ACB
=20and=20NABS=20of=20NFB=20are
=20friends=20in
=20life=20and
=20attack=20on=20the
=20other=20organization=20is

=A0=A0=A0usually=20not
=20allow=20on=20each
=20organization's=20mailing
=20list.
=20Dave,=20you=20are=20right
=20that=20ACB=20does
=20not=20have
=20the=20same
=20amount=20of=20people
=20attending=20its'
=20convention,=20but
=20their
=20attendence=20is=20not
=20small=20eather.=20=20I=20would
=20guess=201500=20attend
=20the=20ACB
=20convention=20and
=20all=20the=20major
=20venders=20who=20attend
=20the=20NFB=20convention
=20attend=20the
=20ACB
=20convention.=20=20There
=20are=20also=20quite=20a=20few
=20young=20people=20who
=20attend=20the=20ACB
=20convention.
=20Yes=20ACB=20does=20its'
=20business
=20different=20then
=20NFB,=20but
=20thats=20why=20they=20are=20a
=20different
=20organization.=20=20However,
=20this=20does
=20not=20make
=20them=20any=20worse=20or
=20better
=20then=20the=20NFB.
=20Just=20my=20thoughts=20and
=20it=20would=20be
=20great=20if
=20we=20keep=20the
=20attacks=20on=20each
=20organization=20to=20as
=20less=20as
=20possible.

=20Anmol

=20I=20seldom=20think=20about
=20my
=20limitations,=20and
=20they=20never
=20make=20me=20sad.=20=20Perhaps
=20there=20is=20just=20a
=20touch=20of=20yearning
=20at
=20times;=20but=20it=20is
=20vague,=20like=20a=20breeze
=20among=20flowers.
=20Hellen=20Keller

=20---=20On=20Tue,=206/21/11,
=20Kirt
=20Manwaring=20<kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
=20wrote:

=20From:=20Kirt
=20Manwaring=20<kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
=20Subject:=20Re:
=20[nabs-l]
=20[Nfbnet-members-list]=20Threw
=20Our=20Eyes=20interview,
=20Ride
=20into=20History,
=20Race=20for
=20Independence,
=20Wed.=20=20June=2022,
=208:00=20pm=20EDT
=20To:=20"National
=20Association=20of
=20Blind
=20Students
=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date:=20Tuesday,
=20June=2021,=202011,
=2012:25
=20PM
=20Dave,

=A0=A0=A0How=20long=20ago
=20was
=20this?=A0=20Things=20could've
=20changed
=20since=20you=20last
=20went
=20if=20it's=20been=20a
=20while,=20maybe?
=20And,=20with=20respect,
=20this
=20is=20a=20big=20deal
=20to
=20a=20lot=20of
=20us.=A0=20I=20know=20for
=20me=20it's
=20a=20lot=20more=20than
=20a
=20"small
=20consideration",
=20I=20like=20to
=20know=20the
=20past=20as=20much=20as
=20I=20can
=20because=20it
=20shaped=20the=20here
=20and
=20now.=A0=20I=20can
=20read=20the=20books
=20put=20out
=20by=20each

=20organization-they=20probably
=20both=20have
=20lots=20of=20the
=20truth
=20intermingled
=20with=20their
=20respective
=20agendas.
=20But=20nothing
=20beats
=20talking=20to
=20people
=20who=20have=20studied
=20the=20issues
=20or,
=20preferably,=20people
=20who=20were
=20actually
=20there.

=A0=A0=A0All=20the
=20best,
=20Kirt

=20On=206/21/11,
=20David=20Andrews
=20<dandrews at visi.com
=20wrote:
=20The=20two
=20biggest=20things=20I
=20noticed
=20at=20an=20ACB
=20national
=20convention=20were
=20that=20the
=20crowd=20was
=20considerably
=20smaller=20than
=20that=20at=20a
=20NFB=20convention
=20--=20less
=20exhibits=20etc.
=20too.
=20The=20second
=20things=20was
=20that=20there=20were
=20few
=20young
=20persons=20--=20some
=20but
=20noticeably=20not
=20very
=20many.=A0=20One
=20of=20the=20major
=20things=20that
=20the=20ACB=20has
=20pushed=20in
=20the=20past=20is
=20that=20it
=20is=20different
=20from=20the
=20NFB,=20it=20does
=20things
=20differently
=20etc.
=20This=20doesn't
=20really
=20matter=20to
=20younger=20people
=20though,
=20so=20they=20have
=20little
=20reason=20to=20join,
=20so
=20don't.

=20You=20guys=20can
=20spend=20lots
=20of=20time=20on
=20the
=20history,=20and
=20differences=20if
=20you=20want=20--
=20but=20what=20is
=20the
=20point.=A0=20It
=20happened,
=20it=20is=20over=20with
=20and
=20done.=A0
=20Yes=20we=20can
=20and=20should
=20learn=20from=20our
=20history,=20but=20it
=20is=20just
=20one=20small
=20consideration.

=20Dave

=20At=2011:32=20AM
=206/20/2011,
=20you=20wrote:
=20Dave,
=A0
=20=A0=20I=20do=20see
=20your
=20point.=A0=20Those
=20alive=20at=20the
=20time=20are=20not,
=20and=20will

=20probabluy=20never=20be
=20friends.=A0=20Heck,
=20getting
=20them=20to=20actually
=20talk=20in
=20peace
=20would=20be=20the
=20achievement
=20of=20the

=20century!=A0=A0=A0if
=20such=20a
=20call=20were
=20to
=20hypothetically
=20happen,=20how
=20could=20we
=20keep=20it=20from
=20opening=20old
=20wounds
=20and
=20stoking=20old
=20fires?
=A0
=20=A0=20Best,
=20Kirt

=20On
=206/20/11,=20Chris
=20Nusbaum
=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
=20wrote:

=20Dave,

=20Our
=20joint
=20conference=20call
=20isn't
=20associated
=20whatsoever=20with
=20the

=20proposition=20of=20a
=20change=20in
=20the=20NFB
=20bylaw.=A0=20If
=20I'm=20setting
=20this
=20up,
=20which=20it
=20appears=20I=20am,
=20I=20didn't
=20even=20have
=20the=20intention
=20of

=20mentioning=20that
=20proposition=20on=20the
=20call.=A0=20The
=20call's
=20purpose=20is
=20to
=20learn=20the
=20history=20of
=20the=20NFB/ACB,
=20with=20a
=20little=20emphasis
=20on
=20the
=20"civil=20war"
=20period,
=20from=20both
=20sides=20so=20we
=20are
=20informed.=A0=20I
=20also
=20want=20this
=20call=20to
=20start=20a
=20discussion=20on
=20the=20history=20of
=20our

=20movement=20and=20what
=20we=20can
=20learn=20from
=20it,=20not
=20only=20as

=20Federationists,
=20but=20as
=20blind
=20students.
=20Jorge=20and=20I=20have
=20found
=20some
=20ways=20that=20we
=20can=20hold
=20the=20call
=20without
=20making=20it=20a
=20NABS

=20membership=20call,
=20if=20it=20is
=20entirely
=20necessary.=A0
=20And=20as=20to
=20your

=20comments=20about
=20them=20not
=20being=20our
=20friends,
=20then=20using=20your

=20argument,=20the
=20Republicans
=20should=20not
=20hear=20the
=20Democrats=20point
=20of
=20view
=20in=20meetings
=20of
=20Congress,=20but
=20the=20two
=20parties=20should
=20be

=20separated=20from
=20each=20other
=20for=20fear
=20of=20their
=20own=20side=20being

=20attacked.
=20We=20can
=20keep=20our=20same
=20opinions,=20and
=20probably=20many

=20Federationists
=20and=20Council
=20members
=20who=20attend
=20this=20call=20will.
=20This
=20is=20just=20a
=20way=20that=20we
=20can=20be
=20more
=20informed=20when
=20forming

=20these=20opinions.

=A0=A0=A0Chris

=20"A
=20loss=20of=20sight,
=20never=20a
=20loss=20of
=20vision!"
=20(Camp=20Abilities
=20motto)
=20To
=20learn=20more
=20about=20Camp
=20Abilities
=20and=20find=20a
=20local=20camp=20near
=20you,
=20just=20click
=20on=20this
=20link=20to
=20their
=20national=20Web
=20site:

=20www.campabilities.org.

=20The
=20I=20C.A.N.
=20Foundation=20helps
=20visually
=20impaired=20youth
=20in

=20Maryland=20have=20the
=20ability
=20to
=20confidently=20say
=20"I=20can!"=20How?
=20Click
=20on
=20this=20link=20to
=20learn=20more
=20and=20to
=20contribute:

=20www.icanfoundation.info.

=A0=A0=A0Sent=20from
=20my=20BrailleNote

=A0=A0=A0-----
=20Original=20Message=20-----

=20From:=20David
=20Andrews=20<dandrews at visi.com
=20To:
=20National
=20Association
=20of=20Blind
=20Students
=20mailing=20list

=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date
=20sent:=20Sun,
=2019=20Jun
=202011=2020:39:01
=20-0500

=20Subject:=20Re:
=20[nabs-l]
=20[Nfbnet-members-list]
=20Threw=20Our=20Eyes

=20interview,Ride
=20into
=20History,=20Race
=20for
=20Independence,
=20Wed.
=20June
=2022,
=208:00=20pm=20EDT

=20Chris:

=20I
=20don't=20want=20to
=20friend
=20anyone=20--=20but
=20I=20think
=20this=20is=20a
=20terrible

=20idea!
=20Remember=20the
=20ACB=20split=20off
=20from
=20the=20NFB=20because
=20they

=20thought
=20that
=20we=20were=20all
=20wrong,
=20did=20our
=20business=20in
=20the=20wrong=20way
=20etc.=A0=20I
=20am
=20not
=20going=20to=20say
=20that=20we
=20can't=20learn
=20anything
=20from=20the=20ACB,
=20but
=20not
=20a

=20history
=20lesson.=A0=20I
=20was=20at=20a=20ACb
=20National
=20Convention=20a=20few
=20years
=20ago
=20--
=20and=20heard=20the
=20NFB
=20attacked=20openly
=20and

=20indirectly.=A0=20These
=20folks
=20are
=20not
=20our
=20friends.=A0=20We
=20can=20work
=20jointly=20at
=20times,=20and
=20should,=20and=20I

=20don't=20think=20we
=20should=20be
=20against
=20them,=20for
=20the=20sake=20of=20it,
=20as
=20some
=20of
=20my
=20old-timer
=20friends=20are
=20--=20but=20a
=20joint
=20conference=20call
=20on

=20consideration=20of
=20a=20change
=20to=20a=20NFB
=20division
=20bylaw=20is=20going
=20to

=20far!

=20Dave

=20At
=2012:53=20PM
=206/19/2011,=20you
=20wrote:

=20Kirt,

=20I
=20have=20a=20friend
=20in=20the
=20Council=20that
=20I=20will
=20see=20Monday
=20night,=20so=20I
=20plan
=20to=20give=20this
=20idea=20to
=20him=20and
=20ask=20if=20he
=20knows=20someone=20in
=20the

=20Council=20that
=20would=20be
=20knowledgeable
=20enough
=20and=20willing=20to
=20attend
=20this
=20call=20on
=20behalf=20of=20the
=20Council
=20as=20an
=20expert=20on=20their
=20history.

=20Maybe=20it=20would=20be
=20better
=20if=20someone
=20like=20me
=20moderated.=A0
=20Keep=20in

=20mind
=20that
=20I=20did
=20volunteer,=20but
=20I'm=20not
=20degrading
=20anyone=20else,=20I'm
=20just

=20using=20myself=20as
=20an=20example
=20here.
=20I'm=20a
=20member=20of=20the
=20Federation,
=20but
=20I'm=20not=20a
=20hard-line
=20"NFB=20is
=20good,=20ACB
=20bad"=20person,=20so
=20I

=20wouldn't
=20show
=20any=20bias=20to
=20NFB=20or
=20ACB.=A0=20I
=20also=20am
=20not=20currently=20a

=20contributing

=20(due-paying)
=20member=20of
=20NABS,=20so=20I'm
=20not=20a
=20leader=20in=20it=20of

=20course.
=20That=20way,=20we
=20wouldn't=20have
=20any
=20bias.
=20I
=20think=20it=20would
=20be=20easy
=20to=20have=20it
=20jointly
=20attended=20even=20if
=20it's
=20an

=20official=20NABS
=20call.
=20If=20we=20have=20a
=20representative
=20of=20ACB=20on=20the

=20call,
=20we
=20could=20probably
=20easily
=20get=20other
=20members=20of
=20ACB=20on=20the=20call
=20to
=20kind
=20of=20back=20up
=20or=20add=20to
=20that
=20guest
=20speaker's
=20information.

=20Thoughts?

=20Chris

=20"A
=20loss=20of=20sight,
=20never=20a
=20loss=20of
=20vision!"
=20(Camp=20Abilities
=20motto)
=20To
=20learn=20more
=20about=20Camp
=20Abilities
=20and=20find=20a
=20local=20camp=20near

=20you,
=20just
=20click=20on
=20this=20link=20to
=20their
=20national=20Web
=20site:

=20www.campabilities.org.

=20The
=20I=20C.A.N.
=20Foundation=20helps
=20visually
=20impaired=20youth
=20in

=20Maryland
=20have
=20the=20ability
=20to
=20confidently=20say
=20"I=20can!"
=20How?=20Click=20on
=20this

=20link
=20to
=20learn=20more=20and
=20to
=20contribute:

=20www.icanfoundation.info.

=20Sent
=20from=20my
=20BrailleNote

=20-----=20Original
=20Message
=20-----

=20From:=20Kirt
=20Manwaring
=20<kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
=20To:
=20National
=20Association
=20of=20Blind
=20Students
=20mailing=20list

=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date
=20sent:=20Sun,
=2019=20Jun
=202011=2000:45:08
=20-0600

=20Subject:=20Re:
=20[nabs-l]
=20[Nfbnet-members-list]
=20Threw=20Our=20Eyes

=20interview,Ride
=20into
=20History,=20Race
=20for
=20Independence,
=20Wed.
=20June
=2022,
=208:00=20pm=20EDT

=20Carley,

=A0=20=A0=20The
=20two
=20organizations=20don't
=20really=20claim=20to
=20be=20"friends"
=20as

=20such-it

=20seems=20like=20now
=20they=20just
=20mostly
=20ignore=20each
=20other,=20work
=20jointly

=20when

=20their=20agendas
=20converge=20and
=20play
=20politics=20when
=20they
=20don't.=A0=20Maybe

=20they

=20aren't=20enemies,
=20but=20the
=20official
=20organizations
=20don't=20really

=20advertise

=20themselves=20as
=20friends.

=20While=20it
=20would=20be=20great=20to
=20have=20people=20from
=20both
=20organizations

=20participate=20in=20a
=20joint
=20call,=20I=20don't
=20see=20it
=20happening.=A0
=20Here's

=20hoping

=20though,=20I
=20guess=A0=20It's
=20certainly=20a
=20nice

=20thought-although,=20if=20the

=20call
=20were
=20to=20have
=20presentations
=20from
=20members=20of
=20both
=20organizations,=20it

=20probably=20should
=20be=20jointly
=20moderated
=20and
=20attended.=A0
=20The=20NFB=20(or

=20probably=20even
=20NABS)=20would,
=20I'm
=20betting,=20not
=20be=20inclined=20to
=20go

=20there.
=20So
=20maybe=20we'll
=20have=20better
=20luck
=20going=20through
=20unnoficial
=20channels
=20and

=20setting=20this=20up
=20on=20our
=20own?=A0=20No
=20need=20to
=20make=20it=20an
=20official=20event
=20for

=20either=20the
=20Federation=20or
=20the
=20Council-I=20think
=20it's=20safe=20to
=20say

=20that
=20idea
=20was=20doomed
=20to=20fail
=20before=20it
=20was=20brought
=20up.

=20Best,

=20Kirt

=20On
=206/18/11,=20Chris
=20Nusbaum
=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
=20wrote:
=20And,
=20as=20I=20said
=20before,=20I
=20would=20be
=20very
=20willing=20to
=20moderate=20this

=20call.
=20Please=20keep=20me
=20posted!

=20Chris

=20"A
=20loss=20of=20sight,
=20never=20a
=20loss=20of
=20vision!"
=20(Camp=20Abilities
=20motto)
=20To
=20learn=20more
=20about=20Camp
=20Abilities
=20and=20find=20a
=20local=20camp=20near
=20you,
=20just=20click
=20on=20this
=20link=20to
=20their
=20national=20Web
=20site:

=20www.campabilities.org.

=20The
=20I=20C.A.N.
=20Foundation=20helps
=20visually
=20impaired=20youth
=20in

=20Maryland=20have=20the
=20ability
=20to
=20confidently=20say
=20"I=20can!"=20How?
=20Click
=20on
=20this=20link=20to
=20learn=20more
=20and=20to
=20contribute:

=20www.icanfoundation.info.

=A0=20=A0=20Sent
=20from=20my
=20BrailleNote

=20-----
=20Original=20Message
=20-----

=20From:=20Ignasi
=20Cambra=20<ignasicambra at gmail.com
=20To:
=20National
=20Association
=20of=20Blind
=20Students
=20mailing=20list

=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date
=20sent:=20Sat,
=2018=20Jun
=202011=2018:51:04
=20-0400

=20Subject:=20Re:
=20[nabs-l]
=20[Nfbnet-members-list]
=20Threw=20Our=20Eyes

=20interview,Ride
=20into
=20History,=20Race
=20for
=20Independence,
=20Wed.
=20June
=2022,
=208:00=20pm=20EDT

=20This
=20call=20would
=20be=20very
=20interesting
=20indeed.=A0
=20If
=20representatives
=20from
=20both
=20organizations
=20are=20willing
=20to
=20participate,=20it
=20can=20really
=20be
=20productive=20in
=20many
=20ways.
=20On
=20Jun=2018,=202011,
=20at=201:46
=20PM,=20Carly
=20Mihalakis
=20wrote:

=A0=20=A0=20Good
=20morning,
=20list,

=A0=20=A0=20A
=20few=20days
=20ago,=20someone=20on
=20the=20NABS
=20list=A0=20suggested
=20a

=20conference
=20call
=20bringing
=20clarity=20to=20a
=20younger

=20generation.=A0=20What,
=20exactly,=20is
=20the
=20history=20of
=20the
=20ideological
=20parting=20of
=20ways,=20between
=20the

=20Federation=20and
=20the
=20Council?=20Does
=20anybody=20know
=20today,=20the
=20history
=20of
=20this=20division
=20or=20is=20it
=20a=20product
=20of=20sheer
=20habit=20as=20is=20the
=20case
=20with
=20Republicans
=20and
=20Democrats?=20If
=20such=20a
=20meeting=20of=20both

=20entities=20were=20to
=20take
=20place,=20There
=20ought=20to
=20be
=20representation=20of

=20both
=20organizations
=20so=20that=20a
=20wholistic
=20portrait=20of=20this
=20issue
=20can
=20be
=20exercised.

=A0=20=A0=20and
=20its=20split
=20from=20the
=20ACB.=A0=20This
=20seems=20like=20a
=20productive=20and

=20enlightening
=20discussion
=20but=20I
=20wonder,=20if=20the
=20Federation=20and
=20the

=20council=20claim=20to
=20be
=20friends,=20should
=20there=20not
=20be
=20representation

=20from
=20both=A0=A0=A0sides,
=20identifying
=20their=20position
=20and
=20whereabouts
=20they
=20stand,=20in
=20this?=20At

=A0=20=A0=20----
=20Original
=20Message
=20------

=20From:=20"Joe
=20Ruffalo"=20<nfbnj at yahoo.com
=20(by=20way=20of
=20David

=20Andrews<dandrews at visi.com>)

=20Subject:

=20[Nfbnet-members-list]=20Thru
=20Our=20Eyes
=20interview,
=20Ride
=20into
=20History,Race
=20for
=20Independence,
=20Wed.=A0=20June
=2022,=208:00=20pm
=20EDT

=A0=20=A0=20Date
=20sent:
=20Fri,=2017=20Jun=202011
=2019:26:45=20-0500

=A0=20=A0=20Save
=20The
=20Date:

=A0=20=A0=20On
=20Wednesday,
=20June=2022,at
=208:00=20pm=20eastern,
=20Thru=20Our
=20Eyes=20host,
=20Joe

=20Ruffalo=20will
=20interview
=20Parnell=20Diggs,
=20chair=20of=20the
=20Imagination

=20Fund,

=A0=20=A0=20Race
=20for
=20Independence.

=A0=20=A0=20The
=20interview
=20will=20highlight
=20current=20and=20past
=20grants
=20awarded=20to

=20state

=20affiliates
=20and=20chapters.

=A0=20=A0=20In
=20addition,
=20featured=20will
=20be=20Imaginators
=20who=20will=20share
=20the

=20methods

=A0=20=A0=20to
=20make=20the
=20ask=20to=20make=20a
=20difference=20in
=20changing=20what
=20it=20means
=20to
=20be=20blind.

=20Special
=20highlight=20of=20the
=20interview=20will
=20be=20the
=20announcement=20of
=20the
=2030

=20winners=20who
=20will=20have=20the
=20opportunity=20to
=20be=20driven=20by=20a
=20blind

=20driver

=20while
=20attending

=A0=20=A0=20the
=20national
=20convention=20in
=20Orlando.

=20Witness=20the
=20opportunity=20to
=20ride=20into
=20history!

=A0=20=A0=20To
=20watch=20and
=20listen=20to=20the
=20interview,
=20please=20visit=20the

=20following:

=20<http://www.thruoureyes.org>www.thruoureyes.org

=A0=20=A0=20For
=20JAWS
=20users=20and=20mobile
=20phone=20users,
=20please=20visit
=20the

=20following:

=20m.thruoureyes.org

=20Other=20options
=20to=20watch=20or
=20listen=20can=20be
=20found=20on=20the
=20sites

=20listed=20above.

=A0=20=A0=20To
=20call=20in
=20with=20comments=20or
=20questions,
=20please=20dial=20the

=20following:

=A0=20=A0=201
=20888=20572
=200141

=A0=20=A0=20Join
=20us=20to
=20Make=20a
=20Difference!

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