[nabs-l] Your thoughts on touch screen
Philip S
philso1003 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 1 04:35:55 UTC 2011
Thanks guys for this very interesting discussion. I am learning a
lot. Please keep these comments flowing! smile
Tina, your universal keypad accessory idea sounds so cool. Can you
describe more what you have in mind? I'm picturing a Braille keyboard
or a QWERTY keyboard with a Braille display? Or something else?
Darian, a little about myself. I'm legally blind and a JAWS user
myself. I'm a graduate student and am working with a professor to
carry out a more formal survey research on this topic starting this
summer through end of the year. After this is done, I also plan to
work with a neuroscience professor to look at what types of user
interface are most natural for blind people, for example what is the
most natural way for blind people to understand graphs and statistics?
Is it tactile? or is it something completely different, not even
graph. So when the formal survey comes out this summer, hopefully you
guys will give me your support and take the time to fill out that
survey! smile
Phil
On 5/31/11, Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Phil,
> Can you tell us a little more about your research? what is it for?
> what do you hope to do with what you find out? I'm simply curious, as
> this seems to be a rather informal survay.
>
> Aside from apple products, I have not used touch screens, but I
> like them just fine, when they work. about a very very small
> percentage of the time, I've noticed the I phone freezes and voiceover
> shutsdown. I have only had this happen maybe four times over the past
> year and some change, but it has.
> Aside from that, I like it alot.
>
> Buttons are a nice thing because mostly, you can find a non-visual
> way of trouble-shooting a problem should it come up on a phone, or
> notetaker, etc.
>
> Darian
>
>
> On 5/31/11, Serena Cucco <serena.c.cucco at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ask the Verizon people to activate the "all readout" option and let you
>> listen to it.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Rania Ismail CMT
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:53 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Your thoughts on touch screen
>>
>> When looking at it in the store before deciding to get it how do you get
>> used to it sinse you have a short amount of time in the store?
>> Rania,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Serena Cucco
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:45 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Your thoughts on touch screen
>>
>> Hey Rania!
>>
>> Oh yeah ... I can actually enter contacts using the number pad myself!
>> You've gotta learn the correct letters that correspond to each number on
>> the
>> phone. Haven't tried texting yet, but I'm sure it'll be a snap!
>> Serena
>> P.S. What's your cell number? (off list, of course)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Rania Ismail CMT
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:37 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Your thoughts on touch screen
>>
>> Is the Haven easy to use? I am thinking of upgradeing to it my self.
>> Rania,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Serena Cucco
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:19 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Your thoughts on touch screen
>>
>> Although I have never seen an iphone or any other touch screen phone, they
>> seem too visual for me from the way you guys are describing them. Spacial
>> relationships aren't my thing. Also, as someone else said, I want my
>> phone
>> to be simply that, a phone, not a substitute for a computer. I just got
>> the
>> Haven today. It rocks!
>>
>> Serena
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Julie McGinnity
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:17 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Your thoughts on touch screen
>>
>> Hi guys.
>>
>> I find this topic very interesting. A few months ago our access
>> office was given an iPad to try out, so our assistive tech person let
>> me and a friend use one. My friend had it first, and she understood
>> it almost immediately, but I hated the thing. I tried it out, but I
>> couldn't understand the interface. The lay out was just too visual
>> for me. I kept hitting the wrong thing on the screen, and it took me
>> 10 minutes just to type my name. I suppose that with practice, I
>> could get used to it, but I don't want to have to relearn an interface
>> when I already understand the technology I'm using. In order to use
>> this device, you need to understand where everything is in relation to
>> everything else on the screen. You can't just memorize a couple
>> keystrokes. I know this works for people, and I think it's great that
>> these things can be made accessible; however, I personally do not want
>> one and hope that using keys and buttons will always be an option.
>>
>> I use a braille note Apex, and I really love it. I have a Samsung
>> Haven because I had a bad experience with a smart phone, which,
>> incidentally I lost at last year's convention. :) I love my Haven,
>> and I really don't want another smart phone in the near future. I
>> like my cell phones to be phones. I also don't think that smart
>> phones will replace braille notes, at least not for a while.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/31/11, Josh Gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> OK, forget what I said about not needing notetakers, we will need
>>> them for the braille keyboards and the accessibility they
>>> provide.
>>> Apologies,
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> sent from my Apex
>>> Email: joshkart12 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Tue, 31 May 2011 13:28:08 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Your thoughts on touch screen
>>>
>>> There are two types of touch screens: accessible touch screens
>>> and inaccessible touch screens. It's as simple as that. Apple
>>> devices are accessible and in my opinion there's nothing more
>>> efficient for a blind person to use. The interface is generally
>>> pretty consistent across applications and things just work. I
>>> find the small touch screen on the iPhone extremely convenient
>>> because I can operate it with one hand most of the time, which is
>>> helpful when I'm walking with my guide dog or anything like that.
>>> Everyone has different opinions on this,but I personally don't
>>> see the need of a notetaker. There are very small bluetooth
>>> keyboards out there which unfold and are very nice to type on. I
>>> have one of those that I use with my iphone, and it's a lot
>>> smaller than any notetaker and does lots of things which a
>>> notetaker can't do. I do think that if I was a braille display
>>> user I would probably have a different opinion on this. I love
>>> reading books in Braille etc, but I just don't need it when I'm
>>> working on a computer.
>>> In a nutshell, I use my iPhone by itself most of the time, and I
>>> use the keyboard if I need to take notes or write long documents.
>>> I can just keep my phone in my pocket and use the keyboard to
>>> type in class etc.
>>>
>>> On May 31, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Philip S wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks guys for your feedback. Please keep 'em coming.
>>>
>>> For those of you who have both notetaker device and SmartPhone,
>>> do you
>>> see your SmartPhone taking over the role of your notetaker
>>> device, or
>>> is your SmartPhone simply an addition rather than a substitute
>>> to your
>>> notetaker device? Why or why not?
>>>
>>> Josh, you said iPod's touch-screen is easier than SmartPhone,
>>> why is
>>> that? Are you referring to iPhone or Android?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/31/11, Hannah Furney <hannahgf11 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi. I received an Ipod Touch in February as a gift. I really
>>> like the
>>> touch screen.
>>> I also have a BrailleNote Classic. I really like taking notes
>>> and writing
>>> documents on my BrailleNote.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hannah
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Philip S
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:19 AM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Your thoughts on touch screen
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm doing research and am curious to know your thoughts on touch
>>> screen.
>>> How do you feel about touch screen as more and more devices
>>> adopt this
>>> interface? Do you love it, embrace it, hate it, a pain in the
>>> rear, or
>>> something in between...? Please share how you feel about it and
>>> be as
>>> thorough as you wish.
>>>
>>> Also, what kind of notetaker, PDA, mobile devices and mobile
>>> phones do you
>>> use now?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
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>> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
>> Eyes for the Blind
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