[nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] Threw Our Eyes interview, Ride into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June 22, 8:00 pm EDT

[Josh Gregory]

Um...=20=20just=20a=20thought.=20=20Maybe=20you=20two=20could=20take=20this=
=20offlist?=20
I'm=20no=20Mr.=20=20Andrews=20(sorry,=20sir)=20but=20this=20seems=20a=20bit=
=20
inappropriate=20to=20me=20for=20this=20list.
Best,
Josh

sent=20from=20my=20Apex
Email:=20joshkart12 at gmail.com

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Carly=20Mihalakis=20<carlymih at earthlink.net
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2027=20Jun=202011=2013:06:25=20-0700
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20[Nfbnet-members-list]=20Threw=20Our=20Eyes=20
interview,Ride=20into=20History,=20Race=20for=20Independence,=20Wed.=20=20J=
une=20
22,=208:00=20pm=20EDT


Hi,=20Joseph,

How=20old=20were=20you=20when=20you=20had=20your=20first=20tumor?
C.
Carly,=20I=E2=80=99ve=20had=20two=20soft=20tissue=20sarcomas=20in
different=20spots=20that=20look=20nearly=20identical=20under
a=20microscope.=20=20Odds=20are=20even=20as=20to=20whether=20=20one
is=20metastasis=20of=20the=20other,=20in=20which=20case=20I=E2=80=99m
stage=204=20and=20aside=20from=20the=20possibility=20of=20a
spontaneous=20remission,=20it=E2=80=99s=20likely=20to=20kill=20me
whether=20I=20live=20six=20year,=20sixteen=20years,=20or=20sixty
years.=20=20The=20other=20possibility=20is=20that=20the=20two
tumors=20are=20unrelated.=20=20We=20chose=20this=20hypothesis
since=20that=20allowed=20for=20possibly=20life-saving
treatment=20in=20the=20event=20that=20it=20happens=20to=20be
truly=20the=20case.=20=20It=E2=80=99s=20pretty=20much=20even=20odds,
though.=20=20The=20tumor=20didn=E2=80=99t=20spread=20to=20my=20lungs,
which=20is=20what=20these=20things=20usually=20do.=20=20If=20it
had,=20chemo=20would=20be=20my=20only=20option.=20=20But=20the
odds=20of=20survival=20if=20it=20does=20that=20aren=E2=80=99t
good.=20=20It=20didn=E2=80=99t=20do=20that,=20and=20it=20almost=20always
does=20when=20it=20spreads,=20which=20is=20why=20they=20suspect
I=20might=20have=20had=20two=20separate=20and=20unrelated
tumors.=20=20I=E2=80=99m=20too=20stubborn=20to=20go=20easily=20or
quietly.=20=20I=E2=80=99ll=20fight=20it=20till=20I=20can=E2=80=99t,=20and
then=20I=E2=80=99ll=20fight=20it=20some=20more.=20=20I=20found=20out=20last=

year=20on=20June=2021st,=20so=20I=20didn=E2=80=99t=20get=20to=20attend
convention.=20=20In=20fact,=20the=20first=20tumor=20was
excised=20on=20July=208th.=20=20The=20second=20was=20identified
January=2012th=20and=20removed=20on=20the=2020th.=20=20If=20we
found=20another=20tumor=20tomorrow,=20I=20don=E2=80=99t=20care,
I=E2=80=99m=20GOING=20to=20convention=20this=20year!=20Joseph=20On
Mon,=20Jun=2027,=202011=20at=2004:41:56AM=20-0700,=20Carly
Mihalakis=20wrote:=20>=20>=20>Good=20morning,
JJoseph,=20>=20>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20What=20is=20the=20nature=20of=20you=
r
continued=20fight=20with=20cancer?=20And,=20>on=20that
focused,=20can-do=20attitude=20I=20do=20believe=20the
Federation=20is=20on=20to=20>something.=20=20I=20live=20in=20the
city=20where=20it=20all=20began=20with=20Dr.=20=20TenBroek=20>and
Dr.=20=20Jernigan's=20having=20held=20professorships,=20at
Cal.:=20>>I=20have=20a=20Master=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99s=20degree=20that=20is
completely=20useless=20because
of=20>>discrimination.=20=20I=20am=20deeply=20in=20debt=20and
looking=20for=20employment=20in=20>>unrelated
fields.=20=20If=20anything,=20my=20degree=20is=20an=20impediment
to=20>>employment=20because=20people=20see=20it=20and
presume=20they=20cannot=20afford=20to=20>>hire=20me=20with=20my
educational=20background.=20=20The=20way=20I=20see=20it,=20if
our=20>>alternative=20techniques=20aren=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t
effective=20enough=20to=20do=20the=20same=20job=20>>and=20in
roughly=20the=20same=20time=20frame,=20then=20we=20need=20to
improve=20either=20>>the=20technique=20or=20our=20mastery=20of
them,=20because=20they=20are=20not=20yet=20>>suitable
alternatives=20to=20really=20compete=20with=20our=20sighted
peers.=20=20>>After=20battling=20a=20couple=20of=20cancers,
I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99ve=20really=20had=20to=20ask=20myself=20>>what
limitations=20I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99m=20willing=20to=20accept=20others
placing=20on=20my=20life=20>>because=20of=20my=20disability,
and=20whether=20I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99d=20place=20any=20of=20my=20own.=20=20>>=
The
answer=20was=20the=20same=20to=20both:=20I=20won=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t=20accep=
t
limitations=20just=20>>because=20I=20can=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t=20see.=20=20I
just=20walked=20into=20a=20testing
environment=20>>today.=20=20I=20brought=20with=20me=20what
accommodations=20I=20thought=20I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99d=20need,=20>>and=20a
few=20I=20thought=20I=20probably=20wouldn=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t.=20=20They
were=20in=20no=20way=20>>prepared=20for=20me=20as=20a=20blind
person=20to=20be=20there,=20and=20tried=20to=20figure=20>>out
what=20sort=20of=20adaptations=20I=20might=20need.=20=20But=20as
it=20happens,=20I=20>>didn=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t,=20because=20I=20was
prepared.=20=20I=20took=20the=20same
examination=20>>everyone=20else=20did,=20aided=20only=20by=20a
little=20bit=20of=20technology=20(and=20>>not=20exactly=20high
tech=20either!)=20=20It=20worked,=20I=20took=20the
exam,=20>>finished=20in=20relatively=20similar=20time=20to
my=20peers,=20and=20I=20passed.=20=20>>Would=20other
accommodations=20have=20been=20more
useful?=20=20Yes.=20=20Would=20they=20>>have=20been=20possible
given=20time=20to=20arrange=20them?=20=20Yes.=20=20Did
not=20>>having=20them=20stop=20me?=20=20No.=20=20Because
I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99m=20no=20longer=20willing=20to=20be=20>>stopped.=20=20I
will=20get=20it=20done,=20one=20way=20or=20another.=20=20If=20we
couldn=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t=20>>find=20a=20way=20to=20do=20that=20tonight,
we=20would=20have=20done=20it=20at=20the=20next=20>>opportunity.
Joseph=20On=20Sun,=20Jun=2026,=202011=20at=2010:03:06PM
-0400,=20>>bookwormahb at earthlink.net
wrote:=20>Joseph,=20>Yes=20most=20people=20work=20>>through
college.=20=20But=20as=20Kirt=20rightly=20points=20out,=20>we
have=20barriers=20>>to=20doing=20those=20little=20part=20time
jobs.=20=20One=20of=20them=20is=20>that=20our=20>>studying=20and
alternative=20techniques=20take=20longer.=20=20We
cannot=20>glance=20>>at=20a=20graph;=20we=20cannot=20skim=20a
book=20or=20cut=20many=20corners=20in=20>studying=20>>as
sighted=20students=20do=20either=20because=20their=20lazy=20or
in=20a=20>time=20>>crunch.=20=20>In=20theory=20we=20should=20work
and=20be=20like=20everyone=20else.=20=20But=20>>sadly,=20>without
that=20BA=20degree=20>our=20opportunities=20for=20office
jobs=20>>are=20very=20limited.=20=20Aren't=20you=20>looking=20for
work=20with=20a=20degree?=20=20If=20>>so,=20you=20know=20the=20job
market=20is=20>tough=20and=20competetive.=20=20>=20>Kirt
said=20>>>"School=20is=20preparing=20me=20to=20work=20a
regular=20job-since=20my=20alternative=20>>>techniques
require=20lots=20of=20time=20work=20isn't=20really=20practical
for=20me=20>>>while=20I=20go=20through=20school.=20=20I=20suspect
that's=20why=20you=20applied=20for=20>>SSI=20>in=20the=20first
place.=20=20"=20>That's=20right.=20=20SSI=20could=20be=20seen=20as
a=20>>handout,=20but=20if=20its=20used=20>temporarily=20and=20a
blind=20person=20intends=20to=20>>use=20his/her=20schooling
to=20>secure=20competetive=20employment,=20then
that=20>>is=20alright.=20=20After=20all,=20your=20>years=20of
work=20paying=20taxes=20you=20will=20>>contribute=20to=20the
system=20like=20>most=20Americans.=20=20>=20>I=20agree=20with
Kirt=20>>that=20its=20not=20too=20practical=20to=20work
through=20school.=20=20>I=20could=20go=20on=20>>and=20on.=20=20I'm
sure=20some=20people=20do=20it=20to=20earn=20extra=20cash,=20>and
if=20they=20>>are=20lucky=20to=20find=20a=20good=20job=20with=20an
open=20minded=20>employer,=20that=20is=20>>great.=20=20But=20how
many=20blind=20people=20do=20you=20know=20with=20>only=20high
school=20>>diplomas=20working=20part=20time?=20How=20many=20do
you=20know=20who=20>cansay=20work=20>>typical=20college=20part
time=20jobs=20at=20cash=20registers,=20as
a=20>>>salesperson,=20or=20front=20desk?=20No,=20I=20don't
know=20any=20because=20those=20>>jobs=20>are=20too=20visual.
Being=20a=20hostess,=20server,=20or=20table=20cleaner
are=20>>other=20>common=20jobs.=20=20Again,=20a=20blind=20person
cannot=20wait=20tables;=20oh=20>>maybe=20they=20>could
bartend,=20but=20that=20requires=20a=20special=20license
and=20>>I=20think=20you=20>have=20to=20be=2021.=20=20>There=20are
some=20jobs=20a=20blind=20student=20>>can=20do=20with=20skills,
but=20again=20you=20>have=20to=20have=20someone=20willing
to=20>>hire=20you=20with=20no,=20I=20repeat=20no=20>experience;
and=20most=20employers=20won't=20>>do=20that=20and=20you=20don't
even=20have=20>the=20schooling=20to=20back=20up=20what
you=20>>want=20to=20do.=20=20>Jobs=20such=20as=20babysitting,
tutoring,=20being=20a=20>>receptionist,=20>telemarketer,
or=20customer=20service=20representative=20are=20>>jobs=20we
can=20do.=20=20>These=20jobs=20don't=20require=20a=20college
degree,=20if=20you=20>>work=20for
certain=20>employers.=20=20>=20>Joseph,=20if=20you=20decide=20not
to=20take=20>>SSI,=20I=20hope=20you=20still=20have
food=20>stamps=20or=20your=20family=20or=20friends=20>>can
loan=20you=20money.=20=20I=20would=20not=20want=20>you=20to=20go
hungry.=20=20Food=20>>pantries=20don't=20give=20out=20full
meals;=20only=20soup=20>kitchens=20do=20and=20most=20>>soup
kitchens=20only=20serve=20one=20or=20two=20meals=20a
day.=20=20>Good=20luck=20with=20>>whatever=20you
decide.=20=20>Ashley=20>=20>-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20T.=20=20>>Joseph=20Carter=20>Sent:=20Sunday,=20June=2026,
2011=209:03=20PM=20>To:=20National=20>>Association=20of
Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20>Subject:=20Re:
[nabs-l]=20>>[Nfbnet-members-list]=20Threw=20Our=20Eyes
interview,=20>Ride=20into=20History,=20>>Race=20for
Independence,=20Wed.=20=20June=2022,=208:00=20pm=20EDT=20>=20>Wait,
are=20you=20>>saying=20the=20system=20is=20designed=20for=20us
to=20sit=20on=20our=20>collective=20>>duffs=20and=20mooch=20off
of=20others=20while=20we=20piddle=20around
and=20>do=20>>nothing?=20=20Does=20that=20seem=20like=20an
appropriate=20system=20to=20you?=20>=20>You=20>>know=20how
most=20people=20get=20through=20school?=20=20They=20work.=20=20Why
should=20>>>we=20be=20different?=20=20Yes,=20I=20know=20we=20ARE,
but=20why=20should=20we=20accept=20>>that?=20>We=20cannot=20work
through=20school=20because=20the=20very=20act=20of
going=20>>through=20>school=20takes=20us
longer.=20=20Why?=20=20Because=20we=20haven=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t=20got=20>>th=
e
skills=20to=20>keep=20up.=20=20Why?=20=20Because=20the=20same
system=20that=20is=20>>giving=20us=20our=20little=20>handout
(for=20which=20I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99m=20told=20we=20should
be=20>>grateful)=20has=20actively=20>interfered=20in=20our
efforts=20to=20be=20and=20do=20>>better=20than=20that.=20=20>=20>As
for=20suing,=20how,=20whom,=20and=20why?=20=20My
benefits=20>>were=20never=20actually=20>stopped,=20only
threatened.=20=20Just=20enough=20to=20keep=20>>me=20jumping
for=20my=20>government=20slavemasters.=20=20I=20was=20entitled
to,=20>>had,=20and=20won=20each=20of=20my=20>appeals,=20so=20the
system=20worked=20as=20designed.=20=20>>>=20>I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99m=20just=20=
no
longer=20willing=20to=20be=20a
slave.=20=20>=20>Joseph=20>=20>=20>On=20>>Sat,=20Jun=2025,=202011=20at
01:18:23PM=20-0600,=20Kirt=20Manwaring
wrote:=20>>>>Joseph,=20>>=20You=20make=20great=20points,=20and
I=20really=20do=20feel=20for
you.=20=20>>That's=20>>aweful...like,=20maybe=20get=20a
social=20security=20lawyer=20kind=20of=20>>aweful.=20=20>>=20All
I'm=20saying=20is,=20the=20way=20the=20system=20is=20intended
to=20>>work=20(and=20the=20>>way=20it=20works=20for=20a=20lot=20of
us),=20SSI=20is=20necessary=20>>income.=20=20I'm=20using
it=20>>so=20I=20don't=20starve=20through=20school;
the=20>>minute=20I=20get=20out=20and=20find=20a=20>>full-time
job,=20I'm=20saying=20goodbye=20to=20>>my=20SSI=20for
good.=20=20That's=20how=20it=20>>should=20be-use=20it=20to=20get
yourself=20>>able=20to=20work=20then=20cut=20the
cord.=20=20I=20>>know=20lots=20of=20people=20abuse=20it,=20>>I
know=20it's=20poorly=20managed,=20and=20I=20know=20>>you're
getting=20screwed=20by=20>>the=20system.=20=20But=20the=20way=20I
see=20it,=20it's=20>>designed=20to=20be=20a=20boost=20up=20>>to
equality,=20not=20a=20handout.=20=20Of=20course,=20>>everyone
doesn't=20use=20it=20>>that=20way.=20=20>>=20In=20any=20case,=20best
of=20luck.=20=20I=20hope=20things=20work=20out
for=20>>you.=20=20For=20>>what=20it's=20worth,=20I'm=20sorry
you're=20going=20through=20all=20>>this=20crap.=20=20>>=20Best
wishes,=20>>Kirt=20>>=20>>On=206/25/11,=20T.=20=20Joseph
Carter=20>><carter.tjoseph at gmail.com
wrote:=20>>>Kirt,=20>>>=20>>>Social=20Security=20>>and=20SSI
are=20still=20a=20handout,=20and=20they=20come
with=20>>>strings=20attached=20>>that=20make=20getting=20off
of=20them=20pretty=20difficult.=20=20>>>Especially=20if=20>>you
live=20in=20subsidized=20housing,=20collect=20food
stamps,=20>>>receive=20>>utility=20subsidies,=20etc.=20=20If
you=20do=20and=20you=20go=20and=20find=20>>>yourself=20>>a=20job
that=20doesn=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t=20pay=20enough,=20you=20will=20have=20a
sudden=20net=20>>>>>reduction=20in=20your=20income=20that
already=20doesn=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t=20pay=20the
bills.=20=20>>>>>=20>>>I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99ve=20decided=20I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99=
m
getting=20off=20this=20roller=20coaster=20even=20if=20>>it
makes=20me=20>>>homeless=20in=20the=20process,=20because
I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99m=20sick=20and=20>>tired=20of=20living=20in
fear=20>>>that=20they=20might=20take=20away=20my
benefits!=20=20>>I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99ve=20gotten=20three=20letters
to=20>>>that=20effect=20in=20the=20past=20two=20>>years,=20in
the=20midst=20of=20cancer=20treatment=20>>>for=20two=20of
them,=20all=20>>with=20the=20customary=2030=20day=20appeal
I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99d=20better=20take=20>>>advantage=20of=20>>if=20I=20want
to=20be=20able=20to=20survive=20another
month!=20>>>=20>>>I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99m=20tired=20>>of=20getting=20paid
to=20NOT=20work.=20=20I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99m=20tired=20of=20living=20in
places=20>>>>>where=20the=20government=20intrudes=20upon
my=20home=20three=20times=20a=20year=20to=20>>make=20>>>sure=20my
landlord=20isn=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99t=20complete=20pond=20scum=20(but
allowing=20>>them=20to=20be=20>>>one=20level=20removed=20from
pond=20scum!)=20=20I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99m=20tired=20of=20>>being=20told=20tha=
t
if=20I=20>>>start=20working,=20my=20rent=20will=20suddenly
be=20>>120%=20of=20what=20anybody=20in=20their=20>>>right
might=20would=20ever=20pay=20for=20>>this=20dump.=20=20And
I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99m=20tired=20of=20being=20>>>told=20that
they=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99re=20sorry,=20>>but=20I=20just=20don=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99=
t
qualify=20for=20the=20work=20>>>incentives,=20or
the=20>>better=20medical=20coverage,=20or=20the=20exemptions
that=20>>>might=20possibly=20>>allow=20me=20to=20save=20a=20few
hundred=20dollars=20with=20which=20to=20>>>actually=20>>get
out=20of=20here!=20>>>=20>>>Your=20not-a-handout=20Social
Security=20and=20SSI=20>>have=20made=20slaves=20of
far=20>>>too=20many=20of=20us.=20=20Perfectly=20able=20to
work,=20>>but=20afraid=20to=20try=20for=20fear=20>>>that
we=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99ll=20lose=20what=20little
we=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99ve=20>>got.=20=20We=20are=20trapped=20in=20a=20prison
of=20>>>learned=20helplessness,=20and=20>>the=20only=20way
out=20is=20to=20see=20these=20things=C2=97all=20>>>of=20them=C2=97for
what=20>>theyhey=20are:=20Government=20handouts=20designed
to=20keep=20us=20>>>docile,=20>>afraid,=20and=20living=20in
poverty.=20=20>>>=20>>>I=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=99m=20done=20playing=20that
game.=20=20>>>>>=20>>>Joseph=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>On=20Sat,=20Jun=2025,
2011=20at=2009:13:21AM=20-0600,=20>>Kirt=20Manwaring
wrote:=20>>>>Carley,=20>>>>=20First=20off,=20I've=20done=20a
bit=20>>of=20really=20light=20research=20and=20I=20was
way=20>>>>liberal=20about=20what=20I=20>>thought=20the=20cost
of=20this=20would=20be.=20=20It's=20probably=20>>>>going=20to
be=20>>in=20the=20neighborhood=20of=20$100=20million,=20so=20I
was=20way=20off.=20=20>>>>That'll=20>>teach=20me=20not=20to=20make
outlandish=20statements=20with=20no=20proof.
But=20>>still,=20the=20point=20I=20made=20in=20my=20last=20message
stands.=20=20Of=20course=20I=20>>>>>>don't=20want=20the
government=20to=20write=20out=20a=20check=20for=20all=20of
us-I=20>>was=20>>>>trying=20to=20point=20out=20that=20trying
to=20make=20all=20the=20cash=20out=20>>there
more=20>>>>"blind-friendly"=20is=20not
necessary.=20=20Just=20like=20we=20>>don't=20need
government=20>>>>handouts=20(I'm=20not=20counting=20SSI=20as
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