[nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others

Carly Mihalakis carlymih at earthlink.net
Fri Jun 10 01:21:46 UTC 2011



Hi,

We've often wondered a same thing what is the history of such a beef 
between the consumer organizations.
There, in my opinion, ought not be censorship, here!
Car:
>David,
>   I do understand the Braille Forum is a copyrighted publication of
>the American Council of the Blind, so there might be legal/ethical
>issues with distributing it outside official ACB channels.  But I am
>slightly curious (and I say this with the utmost respect), would
>circulating an issue of the braille Monitor  describing the split in
>terms favorable to the Federation be "not appropriate for this list?"
>   Sincerely,
>Kirt
>
>On 6/9/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
> > David:
> > With all due respect, can we not have an open mind?
> >
> > After all: Chris isn't doing any obvious harm by presenting an 
> opposing view
> > is he?
> > Is he telling us to join the ACB?
> > No, and I take that as harmless.
> >
> > Why silence what could possibly be a question that will be brought up by
> > future leaders anyway?
> >
> > Sooner or later we'll have to debate not the marrits or not of the
> > organization, but what we stand fore because as the world evolves, so must
> > our stance on issues--we can never stand solid by one policy and 
> say we will
> > follow it until we die for if the target changes, then so must our aim--and
> > we should be open to anything and consider all as long as our principles of
> > blind independence and first class citizenship are not at risk.
> >
> > You realize its not the ACB that you oppose, its their ideas, and 
> are we not
> > open to discussion on this?
> > Just because we talk doesn't mean we do,
> > are you by any stretch of the imagination suggesting that there is a hidden
> > threat in reading a politically contrary paper?
> >
> > I agree--if Chris were to do it every month I would see why,
> > but just once won't hurt anyone will it?
> >
> >
> > Jorge
> >
> >
> > On Jun 9, 2011, at 4:42 PM, David Andrews wrote:
> >
> >> Chris:
> >>
> >> While what you are trying to do is "well meaning," it is inappropriate,
> >> and not in step with the purpose of this list.  This is not a debating
> >> society, and nor are we a vehicle to distribute the Braille Forum.  This
> >> list is for NABS and blind students, not to discuss the founding of the
> >> ACB, or debate how it is different from the NFB.
> >>
> >> David Andrews, List Owner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 02:55 PM 6/9/2011, you wrote:
> >>> Hmm...  that's interesting.  Well, I went out of my comfort zone a little
> >>> and signed up to get both the Monitor and the Braille Forum (ACB's
> >>> magazine) by email.  I will attach this month's Braille Forum.  Although
> >>> a lot of it has to do with the lagistics of their convention in Reno,
> >>> please especially take time to read the President's Message column from
> >>> Mitch Pomerantz.  You'll see there what he says about the NFB and Dr.
> >>> TenBroek and Dr.
> >>> Jernigan, while comparing the ACB's founding to that of the United
> >>> States.  What do you all think of this? Am I stirring the pot too much?
> >>> Oh heck...  another little debate won't hurt.  * Smile!
> >>
> >>
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