[nabs-l] 2 quick observations

Kirt Manwaring kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
Fri Jun 17 01:00:37 UTC 2011


Awesome!  I was sure you guys had something cool figured out.

On 6/16/11, Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Agreed  on all points.
>  As for ballot counting, we are  going to be using braille playing
> cards, (the method  will be explained in more detail at the nabs
> meeting)
>   Best,
>   Darian
>
> On 6/16/11, Arielle Silverman <nabs.president at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> We do keep track of contact information, which you give us either
>> through online registration or when you register at Washington Seminar
>> or convention. We ask that everyone updates their contact information
>> with us once per year. So, if you registered at Washington Seminar,
>> you do not have to register again at convention.
>> The only time we formally collect dues is at convention-not at
>> Washington Seminar. The $5 we request for attendance at Washington
>> Seminar is not dues; it is a registration fee we ask you to pay to
>> help us meet expenses for events we host during the seminar, such as
>> student socials or the student presidents' lunch. Since dues are only
>> collected at convention and the only time dues payment status matters
>> is at the same meeting where you pay (which is when you vote), we
>> haven't formally tra cked who has paid dues. The next board will need
>> to decide if that is somehing worth tracking in addition to the
>> registration information. Right now, in our systems, everyone who has
>> registered with us is considered a member of NABS officially. However,
>> I would also say that any of you who have joined your state division
>> or participated in our listserv, conference calls, etc. is an informal
>> NABS member. Some may disagree with me, but that's how I see it.
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 6/16/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Jorge,
>>>   To my knowledge, they keep a running computer database with contact
>>> info and due payment status.  Darian, Arriele, am I right?
>>>   Oh and I do have one question.  How do we cast our ballots?  Are
>>> there braillers available for us to do it on our own, or do we need
>>> sighted assistance?  I imagine there's some sort of accessible voting
>>> method in place?
>>>   All the best,
>>> Kirt
>>>
>>> On 6/16/11, Josh Gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Good question, I've been wondering that too.
>>>>
>>>> sent from my Apex
>>>> Email: joshkart12 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:13:28 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] 2 quick observations
>>>>
>>>> SO,  does this mean that just because I am a member of this
>>>> mailing list I
>>>> am also a member of NABS? Or what does it mean to be a member of
>>>> NABS?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>> Of Arielle Silverman
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:10 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] 2 quick observations
>>>>
>>>> Well said.  I believe the definition of being a "member" of NABS
>>>> should
>>>> be loose.  We want to share information and network with all
>>>> blind
>>>> students, whether or not they have chosen to be actively involved
>>>> in
>>>> the Federation.  Of course, we welcome the contributions of those
>>>> of
>>>> you who decide to pay dues, vote and/or run for offices, but we
>>>> don't
>>>> exclude anyone from our listserv, conference calls or meetings.
>>>> At our convention business meeting, we do have a system for
>>>> ensuring
>>>> that only paid members vote.  When you pay your $5 dues, you will
>>>> get a
>>>> set of ballots to use for voting.  If you do not wish to pay the
>>>> $5,
>>>> you are more than welcome to attend our meeting, but you will not
>>>> be
>>>> able to vote.
>>>> Arielle
>>>>
>>>> On 6/16/11, Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  Correct,
>>>>    the payment of dues means that you may Vote (  in officer
>>>>  elections, on constitutional amendments, or any other action
>>>> item) or
>>>>  hold an elected office.
>>>>    If  you decide to not pay dues, you obviously cannot do those
>>>>  things.  however you can  do everything else you have been
>>>> doing.  (
>>>>  and we'll  still love you!).  and you can still help us change
>>>> what it
>>>>  means to be a blind student.
>>>>
>>>>  On 6/16/11, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  Please correct me if I'm wrong, but mainly paying dues allows
>>>> one to vote
>>>>  in
>>>>  elections and to run for leadership positions.  But if you want
>>>> to keep in
>>>>  touch with NABS, be on the list etc you don't need to pay.  Is
>>>> this right?
>>>>  I paid happily last year at convention, but this year I haven't
>>>> been able
>>>>  to
>>>>  get rid of a concert on July 7th and I just can't be there,
>>>> which means
>>>>  that
>>>>  I can't pay either :).
>>>>  On Jun 16, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Darian Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  hello all,
>>>>  Kirt has, in short, said what I would have.
>>>>  We are working on getting   pay pal in place on the nabs site,
>>>> but
>>>>  for now those who wish to be members can sign up to do so on the
>>>> nabs
>>>>  page and pay dues at the meeting.  (it also says on the  page
>>>> where
>>>>  you sign up to be a member that  dues are  collected at
>>>> washington
>>>>  seminar and at national convention)
>>>>    Best,
>>>>   Darian
>>>>
>>>>  On 6/16/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  Jorge,
>>>>   At national convention, there is a NABS business meeting where
>>>> you
>>>>  pay dues (if you want to be a voting member), and they keep a
>>>> running
>>>>  list of all the people who do.
>>>>
>>>>  On 6/16/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  Hello all.
>>>>  Just had two observations.
>>>>  First: the "terms of service" page does not seem to work.
>>>>  At least for me it shows a "page does not exist" error.
>>>>
>>>>  And secondly:
>>>>  for the purposes of organization, what is the system for
>>>> tracking
>>>>  members?
>>>>  The reason I'm asking is because the constitution states that we
>>>> "must
>>>>  pay
>>>>  dues" but there seems to be no way of tracking how many members
>>>> we
>>>> have
>>>>  and
>>>>  therefore it seems to be that unless you personally make a check
>>>> to
>>>>  NABS,
>>>>  NABS leadership has no way of noing weather all those who should
>>>> pay
>>>>  have.
>>>>  Am I correct in this thought or is there something I'm missing?
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>  Jorge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Email:
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