[nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

[Tina Thomas]

Hello Jorge- Can you clarify the article in the student's constitution that
you feel violates membership rights. 
Tina  

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Of Jorge Paez
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 9:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

I understand,
which is why that particular article violates our membership rights.
That is exactly what I'm trying to get fixed.


On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Darian Smith wrote:

> George,
> in the constitution, the language states  clearly that there is to be
> no "proxy voting".  I have pasted the language for your review.
> "Officers and board members   shall be elected
> by a majority vote of the members of this Association present and
> voting. All officers and board   members must be in school for one
> year following their
>  election. There shall be no proxy votes."
> 
> 
> As the constitution of this division, and of our national  body
> prohibits  this,  we are indeed not in violation of our constitution.
>  The constitution odes  provide for an   amendment to be  submitted
> for  consideration and review by the  membership.
> The text of  this provision follows:"This constitution may be amended
> at any regular meeting of the   Association by an affirmative vote of
> two-thirds of the active   members present and voting,
> provided the amendment has ben   submitted to the President in
> writing, at least one day in   advance of the regular meeting.
> "
> 
> Marsha,
>  Nothing prohibits a student from runningin an election if they are
> not present- in fact this has  happen before.  It's really a matter of
> if the people present  believe the   individual seeking an office
> would  end up working  out better  for the organization than the
> people who are  currently in the room and seeking that same office.
> 
> I hope this was helpful,
>  darian
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/17/11, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In theory this is a good suggestion. But lets be realistic here. This
would
>> be a complicated process of tallying the votes. If the students were to
do
>> this, the general convention would want this too. Its sad that those who
>> can't be there can't vote, but that is where those who can't be there,
>> should get involved to elect those who they feel would do the best job
>> possible.
>> 
>> Say if you were to have a online way to take votes, how are you going to
>> distinguish from those who are really not going to those who are going to
>> convention but who want to vote and add votes to a particular person
>> running.
>> 
>> Now correct me someone if I am wrong, isn't it true that you can run, not
>> necessarily be there, and be elected? Or must you be present? Different
>> divisions do this differently.
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
>> Of Jorge Paez
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:57 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>> 
>> Hello all:
>> I want to propose the following amendment to the constitution, to article
>> IV.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> 
>> Voting
>> 
>> 
>> Due to the fact that there are people who will not be present at the
>> convention due to issues beyond the membership's control, but who have
paid
>> dues and do therefore, retain their right to vote, the NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION
>> OF THE BLIND shall henceforth recognize
>> these members by allowing them to vote, in such methods as are legal and
of
>> good practice, in all elections pertaining to the business of this
>> organization.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> 
>> end of amendment.
>> 
>> The defense I put forth for this amendment is simple: if we are to be a
>> democratic organization, and if we are truly the "voice of the Nation's
>> blind" we must realize there are students who will not be able to attend
but
>> who have paid dues, and these students must be recognized and given the
>> chance to vote in elections. If not, we are violating our own
constitution
>> as article IV is doing as of this writing, by eliminating those members
who
>> cannot attend convention, and therein setting only a certain portion of
the
>> student membership to vote.
>> 
>> 
>> Jorge
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