[nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment

[Kirt Manwaring]

Jorge,
  You're putting this out in the open for public scrutiny so I'm going
to be honest.  I really, really don't like the idea-it opens up all
sorts of cans of worms that don't seem right to me.  Consider the
following.
  We probably won't know all the candidates in the election *until*
the actual business meeting.  There could be someone who, for whatever
reason, hasn't announced their candidacy for office on the list.  I
think it's only fair that anyone who's even considering voting in the
election knows who all candidates are and has the opportunity to
listen to each introduction speech (even if it's only 30 seconds
long), before they cast their ballot.  That's only fair to all the
candidates involved.  I would consider supporting an idea that allows
those due-paying members in virtual attendance (through an official
NABS skype call or the like) the opportunity to vote.  Beyond that, I
don't think you have much of a case.
  Also, think about this.  Let's say you, hypothetically, were running
for NABS president.  You get a bunch of your blind friends who aren't
going to convention, who may or may not want anything to do with the
Federation, and have them pay $5 so they're voting members.  I'm not
saying you'd do such a thing, I'm just saying you're leaving that kind
of possibility open.  No matter how secure the voting method is, that
makes this something that could happen.  Do other organizations open
that door?  Sure.  Should we?  I say no.
  But the spirit behind the idea isn't bad.  I think, personally, if
we could ensure some sort of secure method for virtual attendance at
the meeting for those due-paying members who can't make convention,
I'd be all for allowing them to vote.  Maybe set up a shoutcast server
streaming the meeting, and only give the password to those due-paying
members who request it?  Make a conference call and only give the
calling info/access code for those due-paying members who ask for it?
If we instituted a system like that, I don't see why we couldn't allow
that sort of absentee voting, but only for those who are in virtual
attendance at the NABS business meeting and not for anyone else.  Am I
making any sense?  Is that a possibility?
  All the best,
Kirt

On 6/18/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
> Arielle:
> Not exactly,
> I'm going to continue to edit the amendment myself and should be able to
> submit it before July second.
> I posted this version so that people could see my amendment in light of the
> entire section.
>
>
> On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>
>> Jorge,
>> Is this the final version you would like read at the NABS meeting this
>> year? Or, would you like to wait until 2012 when you will be at
>> convention yourself and can present and defend it?
>> If you want it read in 2011 and you will not be at convention, you
>> will need to find someone else who will be there to read and defend
>> it.
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 6/17/11, Joseph C. Lininger <jbahm at pcdesk.net> wrote:
>>> George,
>>> I hate to be a killjoy on you, but you're probably wasting your time
>>> with this. The organization isn't going to change this particular
>>> policy, no matter how many people would like to see it happen. For the
>>> record, I'm with you on this one, but I'm also no longer a federationest
>>> and haven't been for some years now. Too many differences of opinion.
>>> --
>>> "All models are wrong, but some are useful." George E. P. Box
>>> Joseph C. Lininger, <jbahm at pcdesk.net>
>>>
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>> Arielle Silverman
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