[nabs-l] [nfbWaTlk] class essay

Mon Jun 20 03:13:36 UTC 2011

Hi Chris,

I have heard that song and think it's really awesome!  I had no idea who sings it ... I have only heard it while on hold with my doctor's office.

Serena

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Perfect interpretation, Josh, thanks! What it's always meant to 
me is that even if you don't have the physical sense of eyesight, 
you still have vision (aka dreams) for your life.  In other 
words, blindness will never stop you from achieving your dreams 
in (or vision for) your own life.  Has anybody heard the Terry 
Kelly song "The Power of the Dream?" It states this motto very 
clearly.

 Chris

"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
To learn more about Camp Abilities and find a local camp near 
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Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How? Click 
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 Sent from my BrailleNote

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We do, and, good point.
  I like Chris's motto as well.  We do have vision, we just
cannot phisically see.  But we have a * vision * of what we want
to do in life, how we want the world to see us, stuff like that.
Maybe that's a totally wrong interpretation of your motto Chris,
sorry if it is! But, these are just my early-morning thoughts :)
Best,
Josh

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From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
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Date sent: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 01:18:37 -0600
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Holy crap this is awesome!
(how's that for a formal letter opening?)
  I actually disagree with this.  A lot.  Maybe these expressions
came
about, at least in part, because of the stereotypes of us being
stupid/inattentive/inferior.  But, the fact is, most of the time
when
people use them they aren't talking about physical blindness at
all!
Are we being racist when we talk about black friday every year,
or the
"black death", or some issues being black and white, or
blacklisting
someone?  I know I'm not.  When we say someone has an unorthadox
way
of doing something, are we saying they aren't part of the Eastern
Orthadox branch of Christianity?  If I tell you all I just got a
fat
paycheck from my job, am I making fun of people who are
overweight?
The same principle applies here, I think.
  If someone has "blind faith", it just means they can't see
what's
really going on because they're mentally blinded by the
person/idea
they are following.  When we say "in the country of the blind,
the
one-eyed man is king!" (not that I've heard that in casual
conversation), we're saying that when everyone is too
stubborn/set in
their ways to look at reality, even someone with a little bit of
insight is superior.  it's a metaphor.  The way it's used in
every day
parlains isn't making fun of physically blind people at all, it's
making fun of people with blind minds!  What's that motto at the
end
of each of Chris's messages?   "A loss of sight, never a loss of
vision."  Same concept-these sayings and idioms make fun of
people
with no vision...heck, I use them sometimes because the imagery
fits.
And, when I say "dude!  What are you?  blind or something?",
after a
friend runs over a curb or misses an exit from the freeway, I'm
not
implying blind people aren't attentive.  I'm just implying we
can't
see.  Don't we have real problems to worry about?  Like actual
descrimination maybe?
  Best,
Kirt

On 6/18/11, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:

 At 03:24 PM 6/18

 Hi, Humberto,

 Do you envision a culture that only speaks in
 generalities and does not celebrate people by use
 of descriptive language? Ought there be some
 ministry of language, some policing body that
 goes around, making sure individuals don't take
 offense to a mere figure of speech? 'Seems it may
 be impossible to speak in an interesting and
 engaging manner if descriptive, specific language
 is not employed, to help do so.
 Carly of Berkeley/2011, you wrote:
 Our daughter Joanne is a linguistic
 anthropology student and was assigned > to > do
 a one page essay on the ways society reenforces
 discrimination.  She > could have chosen a
 number of groups and picked one from any number
 of > ways > that discrimination and bigotry is
 permitted to continue.  Here's what she > said
 about language and the blind.  > > Don't Turn a
 Blind Eye on the Discrimination Against the
 Blind > > By Joanne Gabias > > North American
 societies are trying more and more to be
 accepting of disabilities.  They do so by adding
 Braille to elevator > buttons, > adding closed
 captioning on television, and making sure there
 are > wheelchair > accessible parking spaces.
 These actions may alleviate discrimination to
 an > extent, but in everyday society,
 discrimination is far from extinct.  As we
 know, language creates, transmits and
 perpetuates culture.  In our society,
 expressions that refer to someone as being
 naive, inattentive or stupid > all > use the
 word blind.  Discrimination against the blind
 can only diminish > once > our language removes
 these connotations (of being naive, inattentive
 or > stupid) from the word blind.  > > > > "What
 are you, blind?" This statement is normal in
 everyday > speech in our society.  No matter the
 context, this phrase is degrading, > and
 indicates the person is subpar.  Until this
 expression is out of our > linguistic
 vocabulary, it is impossible for a blind person
 to be treated > with respect and not be cast in
 these stereotypes of being naive, > inattentive
 or stupid.  > > > > "In the kingdom of the
 blind, the one-eyed man is king" - > Desiderius
 Erasmus.  This famous quote, once again or
 almost more so, shows > the blind as inferior
 human beings.  This quote implies that the blind
 can > never achieve greatness.  They will always
 be lower than everyone else.  In > fact, having
 no sight rather than a small amount of sight is
 more > advantageous, since having a small
 amount of sight can be unreliable in > many
 situations.  > > > > The English proverb "the
 eyes are the window to the soul" > implies that
 people whose eyes don't work, don't have souls,
 and souls are > required to be human in our
 culture.  In other words, the blind are not
 human.  Our society puts so much importance on
 sight that it is difficult > for a blind person
 to show the world they are just as able as a
 sighted > person.  > > > > The list of
 linguistic discrimination towards blind
 people > is abundant.  Until the connection
 between blindness and naive, inattentive > and
 stupid is removed from our language,
 discrimination towards the blind > will
 continue to be transmitted and perpetuated
 throughout our culture.  > As > Mark Twain once
 said "The difference between the right word and
 the > almost-right word is the difference
 between lightning and a lightning
 bug."
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