[nabs-l] Isn't it ironic?

Wed Mar 2 06:52:19 UTC 2011

It was probably something that the author did because of that stupid five 
letter word that, in my personal opinion, is the root of many of our 
problems.
MONEY.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirt Manwaring" <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Isn't it ironic?

> :)  It's not just that the Blio text to speech was turned off.  But
> jaws wasn't able to read the book text on the screen.  That to me
> seems like the bigger oversight.  And, cause I'm mad and angry and
> fired up and stuff, I might as well shoot technical support a nice,
> friendly email.
>  Best to all,
> Kirt
>
> On 3/1/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Good point. Maybe the author did it; it may not have anything to do with 
>> the
>> Blio reader's function.
>> Kirt, I'd encourage you to report this problem.
>> Ash;ley
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Arielle Silverman
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:11 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Isn't it ironic?
>>
>> Hi Kirt and all,
>>
>> It's really unfortunate that the speech was turned off on the book you
>> bought from the BLIO store. Not knowing much about the BLIO myself, I
>> wonder if this is an oversight on KNFB's part or if this is just
>> something some authors have done that KNFB isn't aware of? I also
>> wonder if this happens with many of their books or just a few? If you
>> are motivated (you might not be, having found a better solution, but
>> if you are) you may want to report what happened to their technical
>> support with an email or phone call.
>>
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 3/1/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> To everyone again,
>>> (Courtney, I'll email you soon)
>>>   It's official.  The Kindel beats the Blio for accessibility.  I've
>>> never used the thing and I'm reading ok.  (amazon actually has
>>> documentation for the Kindel accessible plugin, unlike our very own
>>> KNFB blio)  So...yeah, maybe law suits are good every now and again.
>>> And maybe KNFB needs a good wakeup call...I know I'm going to be
>>> skeptical of anything else they put out after this debacle.
>>>   Best,
>>> Kirt
>>>
>>> On 3/1/11, Courtney Stover <liamskitten at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Kurt,
>>>>
>>>> I can tell you from personal experience that the Kindle AP is
>>>> phenomenal!  Yes, there are definite problems; the navigation needs
>>>> some work; it's hard to navigate by chapter instead of page etc. etc.,
>>>> but everything I've tried reading is accessible.  The voice isn't that
>>>> great, but it's definitely readable.
>>>>
>>>> If you have questions, feel free to E-mail me off list at
>>>> cstover165 at gmail.com  I certainly don't know everything, but I'll do
>>>> my best to help with what I do, and not to sound arrogant, I'm a very
>>>> good researcher, so if I don't know something, I should be able to
>>>> find out how to do it within twenty-four hours.  I do quite a bit of
>>>> free-lance tutoring of blind individuals on mainstream technologies
>>>> and am planning to add this to my services list soon, so any questions
>>>> you may have would also be very helpful in terms of understanding what
>>>> obstacles my students will face, and what general areas I should cover
>>>> in the lessons.
>>>> Courtney
>>>>
>>>> On 3/1/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Dear List,
>>>>>   First...I'm breaking my vow of NABS abstainance!  I'm just too
>>>>> weak-willed.  Anyway...today I'm here to vent about a few things, so
>>>>> if you don't want to read I understand.
>>>>>   First...isn't it ironic how the Blio reader was marketed by the NFB
>>>>> as the biggest thing since sliced bread?  It was supposed to totally
>>>>> transform reading for blind consumers!  And guess what?  I downloaded
>>>>> the accessibility version, bought a 16 dollar book that just came out
>>>>> today (Kingkiller Chronicle, if there are any other fantasy geeks on
>>>>> here), and hit the "read aloud" button...only to find out the
>>>>> publisher hadn't authorized text to speech reading.  Then I thought
>>>>> "no matter, it's a product that the NFB helped develop.  Surely I can
>>>>> have jaws read the plain text in the book."  Only to find out
>>>>> that...guess what?  It won't.  I did a little bit of messing around in
>>>>> the application and couldn't figure it out.  I'm a little
>>>>> disappointed.
>>>>>   But I want the book tonight!  So here's to wasting another 16
>>>>> dollars, downloading the Kindle accessible app, and hoping it works
>>>>> ok.  Wouldn't it be kind of poetic if Amazon, after being sued, makes
>>>>> a more accessible product than a company run in part by the NFB?
>>>>>   Best,
>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>
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>> --
>> Arielle Silverman
>> President, National Association of Blind Students
>> Phone:  602-502-2255
>> Email:
>> nabs.president at gmail.com
>> Website:
>> www.nabslink.org
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