[nabs-l] rehab counselors and expectations

[Kirt Manwaring]

Ashley,
  I go to
BYU.  A private religious school.  The academics are great, and it
competes well with state-run universities.  So I don't think that goes
against church and state at all, rehab counselors should pay, within
reason, for the best in-state school for the programs you're planning
on, provided job goals are realistic.  I'm in political science and
BYU fits the bill, never mind that a person should have the right to
attend a religious school should they choose to.
  Best,
Kirt
P.S.  I've had trouble with my counselor in the past, but everything's
good now.  I'd rather not talk about it here, message me off-list if
you'd like.

On 3/6/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
> Ashley, I'm attending the Phillips Community College, getting my
> basics out of the way. I'd like to go to IBC, (Indiana Bible College,)
> to pursue my ministry goals. Laura said that Rehab paid for her
> friend's education at a Bible college, so why wouldn't they do that in
> Arkansas? Could it be  because ORU is in Oklahoma? Still, there are no
> Bible colleges worth anything in arkansas. I've switched
> denominations, so ORU wouldn't be for me now. I was AOG, (Assembly of
> God,) then. I'm UPCI, (United Pentecostal Church International,) now.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 3/6/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Joshua,
>> So since you didn't go to ORU where did you go and what was your major?
>> Rj is right; we shouldn't let the state dictate our goals or where we can
>> or
>> can't go to school.
>> I can understand why they didn't pay for your schooling; but they
>> shouldn't
>> discourage that goal; many blind people are pastors and other ministerial
>> things.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:12 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] rehab counselors and expectations
>>
>> Ashley, If you attended the Karaoke show, last year, you would have
>> heard it. Sarah Alawami could probably help you with the lyrics,
>> because she was there. I really had a great time in Dallas, and I hope
>> to go to Orlando this year. Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 3/5/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Oh what is the blind inc song?  I've heard other rehab songs.
>>> I think they didn't pay for the university of your choice was because it
>>> was
>>> a private religious school; sponsoring religious institutions crosses the
>>> lines of church and state.
>>> Still there are other ways of paying for school like loans and
>>> scholarships
>>> if you really want to go to such a school.
>>>
>>> Glad you have a better counselor now.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 10:28 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] rehab counselors and expectations
>>>
>>> The NFB has been rather anti-rehab counselors, from the beginning.
>>> After all, The Blind Inc song tells about how the rehab counselors'
>>> expectations are much too low. Mine wasn't supportive at all. She
>>> wouldn't let me go to ORU, (Oral Roberts University,) because the
>>> state wouldn't pay for it. I wanted to be in the ministry, but my
>>> major would have been music. Now, why wouldn't the state pay for it,
>>> being that I was planning on going for a music major? I don't know.
>>> All I can say is that I'm glad she's out of there, and I have someone
>>> that cares about me, and my wishes. Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 3/5/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Has your vocational rehab, vr, counselor been supportive of your goals?
>>>> I don’t feel mine is.  First I wanted to go into education, but for
>>>> several
>>>> reasons got discouraged and decided against it for now; maybe in the
>>>> future
>>>> I can go to grad school for a masters in education with emphasis on
>>>> teaching
>>>> blind/visually impaired students.  But for now, I want a job in
>>>> communications, development, something human services, or clerical
>>>> support.
>>>> I’m pretty open.  I got several federal internships through the intern
>>>> program WRP, but don’t want to work in the government.  I just feel I
>>>> won’t
>>>> get much work in my job and will not be able to do outreach to the
>>>> community
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> My vr counselor discouraged education or childcare.  Now I feel she is
>>>> encouraging me and all clients for that matter, to go into the public
>>>> sector!
>>>> Another comment that bothered me was to look for jobs near my home,
>>>> rather
>>>> than in the more urban city area where I was looking.  Gee, why limit
>>>> yourself!  Why not get a job near transportation as long as your commute
>>>> is
>>>> reasonable!  Why limit myself to one location?
>>>>
>>>> I feel as if counselors don’t have the highest expectations for clients.
>>>> Fortunately, I know successful blind people working in many areas; I
>>>> know
>>>> we
>>>> should be defined by our other strength and abilities and interests, not
>>>> blindness.
>>>>
>>>> Okay just had to vent some.
>>>> Ashley
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