[nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material

Nicole B. Torcolini at Home ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Tue May 3 01:09:58 UTC 2011


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moment while you go somewhere else in the document, you can use ALT, wind=
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k to mark your place and windows k to return to it. I wish that FS would=20
allow for multiple place markers like the BrailleNote does.

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From: "Ian Perrault" <iperrault at hotmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material


>
>      Hi All,
> A tip: If I'm reading an e-text book on my laptop with JAWS, and I don'=
t
> want to lose my place, I mark my place by putting *****, then saving th=
e
> Word document since the book is in Word usually, then when I want to=20
> reread
> it, I just do a find and hit *****. I just came up with that method on =
my
> own, and it's five stars, not three as JAWS says.
> Ian
> Ian
>
> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:50 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
>
> Oh, maybe the website for the publisher or book will explain the topics=
 in
> the book.  I'll check.  Some books have a website with interactive=20
> quizzes,
> study guides, etc.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:28 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
>
> Yes, you're right! So, let me give you another option.  If you
> read a textbook online, usually the Web site will offer a form
> field where you can search for topics in the book.  Although we
> don't use it a lot, we can get all our textbooks for class on
> either www.classzone.com or on the publisher's Web site, either
> for science and math: www.phsschool.com or for English:
> www.glencoe.com.  If you're using JAWS and get your textbooks
> online, hit insert F 5 for the select a form field list.  See if
> there's a "search book" or "search index" or something like that
> in the list.  If so, try that!
>
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:42:34 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
>
> Chris,
> I use a computer; but as I said to find a text segment, you got
> to know the
> words exactly you're looking for.  If you have a variation on it,
> that won't
> help.  Plus some stuff is probably just in the index/glossary,
> like
> definitions.  Often the index is not part of my e-text and even
> if it is,
> its so big that using a computer may not be practical to find it.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:55 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
>
> I don't know whether you use a computer or notetaker to read
> E-texts, but if you have JAWS on a computer or use a Braille-Note
> BT, you can use a find command to find a text string, or
> word/phrase in a large document like a textbook.  On a
> Braille-Note, hit space with F for the find command.  Then it
> will ask you, "Search forward or back?" If you want to search for
> something that you know is further into the text than you
> currently are, het f for forward, and to search for something
> before the place where you are, hit b for back.  Then, it will
> prompt "Find?" Type the text string you want to search for and
> hit Enter.  If it finds the string you're searching for, it will
> put your cursor under that string.  If you use JAWS on your
> computer, I think the find command is Alt F3, but don't quote me
> on that.  I'll have to check and get back to you on that.  If
> there's someone else on the list who knows what the Find command
> on JAWS is, please let us know.  Hope that helps!
>
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 2 May 2011 00:31:32 -0400
> Subject: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
>
> Hi all,
>
> College texts are full of words and examples.  Frustrating when
> you cannot skim through especially when you need the highlights
> for a test.
> I take notes when reading.  But my notes don?=99t always amount to
> what the professor tells us to study for the test, if they tell
> us.
>
> So what do you do when the professor has a study guide?
> Some students take it and jot down the coresponding pages to the
> study topics and study those pages.
> How do you use it?
> Sometimes professors give a list of terms/concepts to study or a
> list of questions to guide your preparation.  My communication
> professor outlined on the board what concepts we needed to know
> for our final.
> But here?=99s the thing.  I cannot skim the text or look up words.
> My notes may or may not have them.  Even if they do, its still
> looking for a needle in a haystack when reviewing for finals!  So
> I?=99ve usually had to ask a reader; they act as my eyes and look
> in the index for the key words or skim for the key words or
> headings in the chapter.
>
> For me, I usually use audio whenever possible.  But even with
> e-texts, I cannot skim because I don?=99t know the exact phrase
> and without that the computer does Not know what to look for;
> also
> it is divided in to chapters and I cannot search across chapters.
> Another thing, how do you work with open book exams?
> Do you have a reader there and they look up any info from the
> book? That is what I?=99ve done.
> Again, openbook  tests let you use it as a reference tool, but
> that is hard for us.
>
> So any tips for studying or ?=9Cskimming??would be good.  How
> can you direct a reader to actually skim?  Usually they will read
> too much to me rather than just the main paragraph of the topic;
> generally under the main headings I find the introduction to the
> concept and smaller headings tell you details/examples.
>
>
> Ashley
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