[nabs-l] accessible pedestrian signals APS

bookwormahb at earthlink.net bookwormahb at earthlink.net
Mon May 2 23:14:05 UTC 2011


George,
Actually the ACB seems as mad as ever; yes they won in the court; but the 
government has not produced accessible currency yet.
Some do not feel the decision will be enforced.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jorge Paez
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:57 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible pedestrian signals APS

I believe the national is officially against expanding the use of APS.

As far as accessible currency, didn't the ACB already close that case in 
court?
ACB V. US trasury 2009 or something like that?


On May 2, 2011, at 6:36 PM, <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am on the ACB list and as usual with controversial topics, they are 
> taking the Accessible pedestrian signal and accessible currency
> topics and really trashing the NFB and they don’t know the real positions 
> and facts.
> They think NFB opposes both.
> I may not tell them as they will not listen, but what are the positions? 
> Nfb is not opposed to APS fully.
>
> What is the national position? Any late resolutions?  Also, what do you 
> think and when have you found them helpful or not helpful?
> Personally, I’d like the APS at intersections where you have to press the 
> walk button as a pedestrian.  We cannot see the walk signal to know when 
> our time starts; you have to press the button in order to tell the 
> computer that you are a pedestrian and need a walk phase to cross the 
> street.  I think these are called actuated signals.  These streets favor 
> drivers, not pedestrians; the busier streets get more traffic time.  That 
> change of the signal is activated by a computer.
>
> At fixed time streets, those streets with a set time to cross, without a 
> button are easier IMO and you got sufficient traffic cues to hear to 
> cross.
> I also think some streets are more complex now a days with more turn lanes 
> and islands, and a accessible signal would be great.  Some signals even 
> talk to you and count down the time left in the walk interval.
>
> So I guess I see APS as a benefit  when you have insufficient traffic cues 
> to cross the street.  I’ve tried to learn how to cross T streets, and 
> those are confusing too; maybe the APS would help there too.  No parallel 
> traffic on T-shaped streets.
>
> Look forward to your thoughts; I know NFB modified their position on APS, 
> so I’m not sure what it is now.  I certainly don’t want them everywhere, 
> but in several cases with complex traffic patterns I can see their use.
>
> Ashley
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