[nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material

Tue May 3 00:44:32 UTC 2011

On the Apex, it usually works fine...  most of the time.  What 
model do you have?

Chris Nusbaum

"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)

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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material

You can't really use the BN for that though can you?

I've tried finding stuff in really large books and it just 
freezes the note.

On May 2, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Chris Nusbaum wrote:

 I don't know whether you use a computer or notetaker to read 
E-texts, but if you have JAWS on a computer or use a Braille-Note 
BT, you can use a find command to find a text string, or 
word/phrase in a large document like a textbook.  On a 
Braille-Note, hit space with F for the find command.  Then it 
will ask you, "Search forward or back?" If you want to search for 
something that you know is further into the text than you 
currently are, het f for forward, and to search for something 
before the place where you are, hit b for back.  Then, it will 
prompt "Find?" Type the text string you want to search for and 
hit Enter.  If it finds the string you're searching for, it will 
put your cursor under that string.  If you use JAWS on your 
computer, I think the find command is Alt F3, but don't quote me 
on that.  I'll have to check and get back to you on that.  If 
there's someone else on the list who knows what the Find command 
on JAWS is, please let us know.  Hope that helps!

 Chris Nusbaum

 "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities 
motto)

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 Subject: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material

 Hi all,

 College texts are full of words and examples.  Frustrating when 
you cannot skim through especially when you need the highlights 
for a test.
 I take notes when reading.  But my notes don’t always amount to 
what the professor tells us to study for the test, if they tell 
us.

 So what do you do when the professor has a study guide?
 Some students take it and jot down the coresponding pages to the 
study topics and study those pages.
 How do you use it?
 Sometimes professors give a list of terms/concepts to study or a 
list of questions to guide your preparation.  My communication 
professor outlined on the board what concepts we needed to know 
for our final.
 But here’s the thing.  I cannot skim the text or look up words.  
My notes may or may not have them.  Even if they do, its still 
looking for a needle in a haystack when reviewing for finals!  So 
I’ve usually had to ask a reader; they act as my eyes and look in 
the index for the key words or skim for the key words or headings 
in the chapter.

 For me, I usually use audio whenever possible.  But even with 
e-texts, I cannot skim because I don’t know the exact phrase and 
without that the computer does Not know what to look for; also
 it is divided in to chapters and I cannot search across 
chapters.
 Another thing, how do you work with open book exams?
 Do you have a reader there and they look up any info from the 
book? That is what I’ve done.
 Again, openbook  tests let you use it as a reference tool, but 
that is hard for us.

 So any tips for studying or “skimming” would be good.  How can 
you direct a reader to actually skim?  Usually they will read too 
much to me rather than just the main paragraph of the topic; 
generally under the main headings I find the introduction to the 
concept and smaller headings tell you details/examples.

 Ashley
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