[nabs-l] NFB training centers and guide dogs

[Jedi]

No, that is not what I said. I said that LCB requires that one uses the 
straight cane on hours for sure. But if one chooses to use the cane 
during off hours, then the straight cane should be used as it is with 
all cane-using students. However, if the student decides to use the dog 
during off-hours, they may. In these cases, it is probably best (if one 
chooses to carry a cane anyway) to use the NFB telescoping cane because 
it has most of the characteristics of the NFB cane that makes it the 
cane of choice at these centers.

Respectfully,
Jedi

Original message:
> Kirt,
> Sounds like the LCB seems a bit restrictive about dog use.  I think of the
> three centers Colorado would be most blind friendly.  But as others have
> said, call the centers and ask.

> Remember if you have a dog you want to work it enough outside school so it
> keeps its training and gets the proper amount of exercise.  You want to
> ensure you are around the dog working enough to not disrupt the bond between
> you and the dog or the dog loses its training.

> I have not been to a training center and I am a cane user. But I have heard
> from more than one source that Colorado is more dog friendly.
> Gedi said they prefer you to use the NFB straight cane during school and
> off hours, so sounds like that leaves little room for a dog.

> Ashley
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kirt Manwaring
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 10:40 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB training centers and guide dogs

> Oh no, here we go..  *pulls out some popcorn and gets ready to enjoy
> the show* :)

> On 5/9/11, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>> Unless you are in a situation with work, school, or something else in
>> which
>> you know that you will be using your cane more than your dog, I do not
>> think
>> that it is fair to ask someone if he/she is going to use a cane more than
>> the dog.

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 7:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB training centers and guide dogs


>>> at the LCB, they require that you use the NFB straight cane for all on
>>> and

>>> off hours while in training. But when you put a dog in the mix, they ask
>>> you to use the straight cane if you plan on using a cane more than a dog.
>>> If you must use a cane while using a dog (i.e. for varification or
>>> something), they probably want you using the telescoping cane because it
>>> has more of the properties that make the straight hollow fiberglass cane
>>> such a great tool than do the conventional folding canes.

>>> Respectfully Submitted

>>> Original message:
>>>> Kirt,
>>>> When on your own time you can use the cane of your choice; for classes
>>>> and
>>>> center activities they want the NFB straight cane.


>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Kirt Manwaring
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:05 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB training centers and guide dogs

>>>> Amy, Nicole and all,
>>>>   If I get a dog (which is a huge if), I'd wait at least a couple
>>>> months before going to a training center.  I'm guessing me and my new
>>>> friend would need some time to really get to know each other-time
>>>> which would probably be in short supply at a training center.  I do,
>>>> however, have a question which is probably silly.  When attending a
>>>> center, are you under contract to use a straight cane whenever you
>>>> travel anywhere-whether in class time or just on your own time?  I
>>>> mean...let's say me and my dog want to go see a friend in Denver over
>>>> the weekend (I have a few friends, hard to believe.  :)).  Would there
>>>> be any official policy against me bringing a folding cane along for
>>>> the trip, in the event I'd need it?  I'd do a straight cane but...you
>>>> know, those don't really fit in backpacks very well.  Would anyone
>>>> care if I did that, on my own time?  From what I understand, you
>>>> guys'll probably say that's a really dumb question and of course that
>>>> would be fine.  But my experience with life has told me to always make
>>>> sure I know what's going on before I get in to it.
>>>>   Warmest regards,
>>>> Kirt

>>>> On 5/8/11, Amy Sabo <amylsabo at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> hello kurt,

>>>>> i see that you want to attend ccb which is awesome! yes, you can bring
>>>>> your
>>>>> guide dog to the ccb but, you will have to use a cane for some of your
>>>>> activities oncluding travel class. i hope this is helpful to you and,
>>>>> hopefully others here will chime in with their comments and suggestions
>>>>> to
>>>>> this topic.

>>>>> take care and good luck in coming to ccb.


>>>>> hugs,
>>>>> amy

>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sun, 08 May 2011 21:22:10 -0000 (UTC)
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] NFB training centers and guide dogs

>>>>> Dear list,
>>>>>   I'm thinking of attending the CCB sometime soon.  I'm also going to
>>>>> try out using a guide dog and, if I find it beneficial, will probably
>>>>> go through the process of getting one.  So my question is this.  Is it
>>>>> ok to bring a guide dog to an NFB training center?  I mean, I know
>>>>> that during my official day-time lessons I'd just need to use a
>>>>> cane-and I'm fine with that.  I think the worst thing I could do, if I
>>>>> get a guide dog, is let my cane skills slip.  But would there be any
>>>>> problems, aside from logistics I'd have to work out, with bringing a
>>>>> guide dog to a training center?  Anyone done it?
>>>>>   Warmest regards,
>>>>> Kirt

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