[nabs-l] NFB training centers and guide dogs

Tue May 10 05:19:36 UTC 2011

The question is: what if you already have a good foundation in cane travel? What if you learned by yourself or somewhere other than the training center' Are you just not supposed to go at all?
I would definitely not consider a training center for o&m reasons because I feel like I am good enough at it. On the other hand, maybe there are other things in training programs that I could be interested in. If I ever go, I simply don't want to be bothered with having to leave my dog somewhere for a number of hours etc.
On May 9, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Darian Smith wrote:

> Would it  be much  simpler to say that the main idea is to get  a
> solid foundation in  cane travel (how to use a cane in all kinds of
> situations, problem-solving, and the like)?  doing this  will best
> allow you to make the best dicision for yourself in regards to if you
> really want  to go the cane or dog guide route  (both respectable
> choices).
> However you choose to go about this is how you choose to do it, but
> it's probably key to think about what's the most fair to you and your
> dog guide, because after all, you and your four-legged friend are a
> team. *smile*
>  does that make sense?
> 
> On 5/9/11, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>> Yes.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 8:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB training centers and guide dogs
>> 
>> 
>>> Nicole,
>>> Are you a dog user?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 10:36 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB training centers and guide dogs
>>> 
>>> Unless you are in a situation with work, school, or something else in
>>> which
>>> you know that you will be using your cane more than your dog, I do not
>>> think
>>> that it is fair to ask someone if he/she is going to use a cane more than
>>> the dog.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 7:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB training centers and guide dogs
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> at the LCB, they require that you use the NFB straight cane for all on
>>>> and off hours while in training. But when you put a dog in the mix, they
>>>> ask you to use the straight cane if you plan on using a cane more than a
>>>> dog. If you must use a cane while using a dog (i.e. for varification or
>>>> something), they probably want you using the telescoping cane because it
>>>> has more of the properties that make the straight hollow fiberglass cane
>>>> such a great tool than do the conventional folding canes.
>>>> 
>>>> Respectfully Submitted
>>>> 
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> Kirt,
>>>>> When on your own time you can use the cane of your choice; for classes
>>>>> and
>>>>> center activities they want the NFB straight cane.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Kirt Manwaring
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:05 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB training centers and guide dogs
>>>> 
>>>>> Amy, Nicole and all,
>>>>>  If I get a dog (which is a huge if), I'd wait at least a couple
>>>>> months before going to a training center.  I'm guessing me and my new
>>>>> friend would need some time to really get to know each other-time
>>>>> which would probably be in short supply at a training center.  I do,
>>>>> however, have a question which is probably silly.  When attending a
>>>>> center, are you under contract to use a straight cane whenever you
>>>>> travel anywhere-whether in class time or just on your own time?  I
>>>>> mean...let's say me and my dog want to go see a friend in Denver over
>>>>> the weekend (I have a few friends, hard to believe.  :)).  Would there
>>>>> be any official policy against me bringing a folding cane along for
>>>>> the trip, in the event I'd need it?  I'd do a straight cane but...you
>>>>> know, those don't really fit in backpacks very well.  Would anyone
>>>>> care if I did that, on my own time?  From what I understand, you
>>>>> guys'll probably say that's a really dumb question and of course that
>>>>> would be fine.  But my experience with life has told me to always make
>>>>> sure I know what's going on before I get in to it.
>>>>>  Warmest regards,
>>>>> Kirt
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/8/11, Amy Sabo <amylsabo at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> hello kurt,
>>>> 
>>>>>> i see that you want to attend ccb which is awesome! yes, you can bring
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> guide dog to the ccb but, you will have to use a cane for some of your
>>>>>> activities oncluding travel class. i hope this is helpful to you and,
>>>>>> hopefully others here will chime in with their comments and suggestions
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> this topic.
>>>> 
>>>>>> take care and good luck in coming to ccb.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> hugs,
>>>>>> amy
>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 08 May 2011 21:22:10 -0000 (UTC)
>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] NFB training centers and guide dogs
>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear list,
>>>>>>  I'm thinking of attending the CCB sometime soon.  I'm also going to
>>>>>> try out using a guide dog and, if I find it beneficial, will probably
>>>>>> go through the process of getting one.  So my question is this.  Is it
>>>>>> ok to bring a guide dog to an NFB training center?  I mean, I know
>>>>>> that during my official day-time lessons I'd just need to use a
>>>>>> cane-and I'm fine with that.  I think the worst thing I could do, if I
>>>>>> get a guide dog, is let my cane skills slip.  But would there be any
>>>>>> problems, aside from logistics I'd have to work out, with bringing a
>>>>>> guide dog to a training center?  Anyone done it?
>>>>>>  Warmest regards,
>>>>>> Kirt
>>>> 
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