[nabs-l] The Future of Nemeth?

[Kirt Manwaring]

Steve,
  Here here.  Just out of curiosity, how much has the code changed
over time?  Have the changes mostly been aditions to cover new
concepts in mathematics?  Or have they been modifications of existing
code?  A combination of the two?
  Best,
Kirt

On 5/20/11, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:
> What I read in some of the comments was that Dr. Nemeth would be surprised
> to hear about people thinking of changing his code.  What I was trying to
> say
> is that even the Nemeth code has changed over time and may need to change
> again.  I was not saying that I think the code needs to change to something
> other than Nemeth, necessarily, but that we have to be open to the fact that
> things do change.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Fri, 20 May 2011 11:02:31 -0600, Kirt Manwaring wrote:
>
>>Steve,
>>  From my very limited experience with Nemeth, it seems to me it
>>wouldn't be all that hard to update or modify it as needed.  Certainly
>>DR. Nemeth has changed the code over time-I don't see why it isn't
>>flexible enough to change as needed in the future.  But if a better
>>way is found (a big if, of which I'm quite skeptical) then by all
>>means let's support that new way.  But until such a thing happens, and
>>I'm convinced it's *probably* not going to, my vote's behind nemeth
>>all the way.  Not to say yours isn't.
>>  Warmest regards,
>>Kirt
>
>>On 5/20/11, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was a math major years ago and was extremely dependent upon the Nemeth
>>> Code.  I give Dr. Nemeth and the Nemeth Code a lot of credit for my
>>> ability
>>> to
>>> have been able to work in the computer field.  However, I do not believe
>>> that one can say anything that humans have invented is perfect.  The code
>>> that I
>>> used and that we use today has gone through three or four fairly major
>>> revisions.  Dr. Nemeth himself has been working on and completed a
>>> braille
>>> code
>>> called NUBS which establishes rules for integrating mathematical and
>>> computer braille into everyday litterary braille.  This is somewhat
>>> similar
>>> to what is being
>>> attempted by the Unified English Braille code as well.  While I believe
>>> that
>>> math notation has remained fairly stable over the years, there has been
>>> many
>>> changes in what is considered acceptable in print and some of these
>>> changes
>>> are very much a part of the educational process now.  I therefore think
>>> it
>>> is
>>> fine for us to praise the Nemeth code as it has meant a lot to many of
>>> us,
>>> but I also think that we need to be open to the fact that things will
>>> change, not
>>> necessarily because a better way needs to be found, but because the way
>>> society uses print is changing and we have to keep up to some degree.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>
>>> On Thu, 19 May 2011 22:23:41 -0600, Kirt Manwaring wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm with Mike here.  Nemeth is absolutely brilliant-probably the main
>>>>reason (aside from awesome tutors) I was able to pass college Algebra.
>>>
>>>>On 5/19/11, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>>>>> It'll stay around if I have anything to do with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
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>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] The Future of Nemeth?
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>>>>> Many people have been talking about the future of Braille in general.
>>>>> What
>>>>> about the future of Nemeth?
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