[nabs-l] [gui-talk] Fwd: Object-oriented Programming Classes Questions

[Mike Freeman]

Sounds good, Steve. Thanks. 

Mike Freeman
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On May 20, 2011, at 7:48, "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> You have received many answers, but I don't know that the general question has been addressed.  I do not have a lot of experiences with object oriented 
> programming, but I've done a little with various integrated development environments and I have had to take a lot of classes on the job over the years.
> 
> My approach has always been to try to learn in a class the same thing that the other students were learning.  What this has meant for me is that working 
> with someone else has often, but not always been a part of how I have operated.  I have usually not required a dedicated reader.  My approach has been 
> to get as much of the materials as I can in an accessible format and then try to work with a co-worker taking the same class.  I tend to take a lot of notes 
> which include notes on how the person with whom I am working accomplishes tasks, even if it is with the mouse.  I have found that if they are using 
> software that is not familiar to me, it is easier for me to learn how to use the software itself after the fact with the knowledge I have gained as a result of 
> working with someone else.  Even if they use a mouse in a way that I would not do it, knowing how they do something helps me understand how I might go 
> about it and it helps me understand what the instructor is teaching.
> 
> If I am taking a class in something that uses software with which I am familiar, I would probably tend to work alone if that is what others were doing.  In the 
> situation that you are in where the language you learn might well be independent of the software you use, and if you have time, it might be worth trying to 
> become familiar with the software ahead of time whether or not you work with a reader.  As I understand it, there are still some rough edges to using Visual 
> Studio with a screen reader but mostly it can be done.  It is possible that you would do best to use whatever version works best with your screen reader 
> even if it is different than what the class uses, but that would be a judgement call.  I know that there are people using Visual Studio with JFW and to a lesser 
> degree Window-Eyes on the PROGRAM-L list, so you probably should subscribe and ask there.The address to subscribe is
> 
> program-l-request at freelists.org
> 
> and put "subscribe" without the quotes in the subject line.
> 
> I know that some people really put down the use of Integrated Development Environments, but they can really increase one's efficiency.  However, you 
> could find that other IDE's work better than Visual Studio for you depending upon the language.  Some of the less expensive text editors like UltraEdit and 
> the free text editor PSPAD have some useful IDE features.  Still, a more complicated IDE such as Visual Studio has some nice features for laying out 
> screens if you are needing to develope a GUI interface, and at least some versions have some features that can be helpful with a screen reader.
> 
> I hope some of this is helpful, although I suspect you know most of it already.  Good luck.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> On Thu, 19 May 2011 10:41:51 -0700, Mike Freeman wrote:
> 
> 
>>> From: "Freeman,Mike - TOSD-DITT-2"
>>> Date: May 19, 2011 10:30:09 PDT
>>> Subject: Object-oriented Programming Classes Questions
>>> 
> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> Although I have had some experience with languages implementing object-oriented programming, I've never taken classes on the subject. My question is 
> this: what platforms are beginning object-oriented programming classes generally run on and what accessibility tools are needed for a totally-blind student? Is 
> the best option to use a human reader?
>>> 
>>> We use visual Studio 2008 around my work environment. Are there training courses on how to use it with JAWS, say, in C# programming? Are there e-
> texts on the subject approached from a screen-reader perspective?
>>> 
>>> WE use Ruby around my work environment also. Any experiences with this language and platforms on which its interpreter runs from an accessibility 
> perspective?
>>> 
>>> And what's the situation viz. Java programming these days insofar as blind access is concerned?
>>> 
>>> T I A!
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
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