[nabs-l] About the future of NABS and the NFB

Sun May 22 02:08:09 UTC 2011

Oh yeah! I read someone on here call it BYSM and assumed it was 
their Youth Services department.  Thanks, Rania!

 Chris

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Rania Ismail" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
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Date sent: Sat, 21 May 2011 21:47:40 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] About the future of NABS and the NFB

Chris, just to correct you BISM stands for Blind Industries and 
Services of
Maryland.

Rania,
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] About the future of NABS and the NFB

I went to BYSM in Baltimore.  That stands for Blind Youth
Services of Maryland, by the way.

Chris

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Chris

"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)

--- Sent from my BrailleNoteI went to

Chris

"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)

--- Sent from my BrailleNoteI went to BYSM

 Chris

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From: Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com
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Date sent: Sat, 21 May 2011 20:39:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] About the future of NABS and the NFB

Chris:
Just wondering,
what training center did you go to?

On May 21, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Chris Nusbaum wrote:

 Thanks, Kirt! I appreciate the kind words.  To answer your
question, I wasn't really introduced to the Federation
originally, my parents were.  Therefore, I was a member of the
Federation with my parents and liked
 a lot of what I heard.  I went to one of the NFB sponsored
training center programs and learned a lot.  Then recently I went
to the NFB LAW Program at the national center, the first program
I'd ever gone to at the Jernigan Institute.  That program just
strengthened my belief in the Federation philosophy.  But I still
felt that the views I was hearing were kind of extreme, so I
wanted to learn more about the philosophy of the NFB before I
totally threw my support behind them.  After listening to some
stuff on nfb.org, I asked this list and the other list I'm on my
"what is Federationism?" question so I knew people's personal
feelings about Federationism.  Once I read a lot of posts on this
subject and learned about the real NFB philosophy, I decided to
join the Federation as a total Federationist!!!!! Yea!!!!! So
really, my decision to join the Federation myself was mostly
because of your insight! Thanks guys!!!

 Chris

 "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities
motto)

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 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:21:25 -0600
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] About the future of NABS and the NFB

 Chris,
 It's awesome you're on here.  You're a case study of why it's
good
 for students to get on board while they're young.  Just out of
 curiosity, how were you introduced to the Federation?

 On 5/20/11, Âris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
 I agree completely, Kirt! Great points!

 Chris

 "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities
motto)

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 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Thu, 19 May 2011 19:57:10 -0600
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] About the future of NABS and the NFB

 Darian and all,
  I think sometimes we underestimate the role of vission
 teachers.
 (call them what you want-TVIs, teachers of blind students,
 itinerate
 teachers, whatever)  These are usually the people who give blind
 students, and their parents, first impressions about blindness
 and
 thus they have a huge influence on whatever expectations a
 student or
 parent develops about what is possible as a blind person.  I
 think we
 need to put a lot more energy in to sincerely dialoguing with
 these
 teachers, especially the reasonable ones who don't agree with us
 (I'm
 not saying all teachers who disagree with us are reasonable), to
 improve our image and the way we're presented to students.
 Because my
 state affiliate is pretty good at this, my TVI, although she
 disagreed
 with a lot of what the NFB does, didn't discourage me from
coming
 to
 my own opinions and getting as much firsthand experience with
the
 Federation as I could.  Even those blindness professionals who
 disagree with us can, if we present ourselves in a civil and
 courteous
 manner, direct students to our organization.  It happened with
 me.
  Warmest regards,
 Kirt

 On 5/19/11, Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com> wrote:
 You know, one thing that I would like to add to this discussion
 is
 the following  "what ideas would you  suggest to improve what
 you may
 think needs improving?"
   I think it's  really easy for all of us to get into the  habit
 of
 mentioning what isn't happening.  Sometimes, it's  not so much a
 matter
  that no one is aware of an issue (sometimes, on the other hand,
 this
 in fact may be the case), but suggestions on how to improve are
 also
 very valuable.   Remember, we never roll out of bed with the
 answers!
   Best,
   Darian

 On 5/19/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
 	I don't think we're doing enough with the
 middleschool/elementary
 population.
 We need to get the message out faster,
 to the younger kids.

 On May 19, 2011, at 9:00 PM, dsmithnfb at gmail.com wrote:

 Let's bring this conversation fourth.  What do people think
 about this
 question?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 19, 2011, at 5:39 PM, "Tina Hansen" <th404 at comcast.net
 wrote:

 I wanted to know what people felt about the future of the NFB,
 and
 whether or not we're doing anything to address how to
 communicate our
 message in a way that will reach people through new
 technologies.
 Thanks.

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