[nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Sun May 29 17:21:50 UTC 2011 

Actually, according to David Paterson, recently Governor of new York, Rosa
Parks wasn't the first person actually to refuse to go to the back of the
bus. Earlier that year, another African-american lady would have tested the
system but she had had a child out of wedlock and so NAACP chose not to make
her the test case for the segregation law, the mores of the time being
different than they are today.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Josh Gregory
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 9:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others

Yeah we're learning about that in history (it's almost the end of the school
year, yay!) and it's sad what they did to people.  The Little Rock Nine,
does anybody remember that one? Well, there's a lot of history to show
that...  African Americans were segregated and as so, treated very badly.
Rosa Parks was the first to challenge that.  I think...  but that's
offtopic.  I guess my point is: While I knew about the history of African
Americans, I didn't know that us blind people went through the same things.
Josh
PS: Sorry if that was just a bit offtopic.

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
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Date sent: Sun, 29 May 2011 10:00:18 -0600
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others

Josh,
  As sad as it is, it happens all the time.  Gandhi, Martin Luther King, and
so many others who've fought against the status quo get all sorts of
resistance.  In terms of ability, I think Jernigan was right up there with
those guys...or pretty dang close!  We're lucky noone acted on their death
threats against him, like they did with dr.  
King
and Gandhi.
  Warmly,
Kirt

On 5/28/11, Josh Gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com> wrote:
 Still, wow, that's...  well...  I think, outrageous.  A man of  such high
respect can be hated just as much...  enough to the  point of receiving
death threats.  Interesting and scary.
 Josh

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  ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
 To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Sat, 28 May 2011 20:43:52 -0700
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others

 Oh yes -- as president of the NFB, he was a symbol of the  Movement and, as
such, was perceived as standing for a philosophy that threatened  the status
quo (including the self-proclaimed exalted status of various  agencies for
the blind).  The hostility was often palpable and, make no  mistake, it took
its toll on the man.  Whether he'd ever have admitted it or not,  it
bothered  him a lot to receive such hostility that was almost pathological
in its  extremity.

 Mike


 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
 [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf  Of Josh Gregory
 Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:20 PM
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 Hi, such a respectable person as Dr.  Journigan receiving death  threats?
To  me that is unheard of that such...  um...  deplorable things  could
happen to  us blind people.
 Josh

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  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Jedi <loneblindjedi at samobile.net
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 28 May 2011 22:17:13 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others

 Federationists have received death threats in the past; i can  recall from
my  studies that Rammi Rabby and Dr.  Jernigan did.

 Respectfully,
 Jedi

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 28, 2011, at 12:47 AM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
 wrote:

  Darian:

  WE of NFB often compare ourselves to African-americans because  we
consider  ourselves, like them, to be a minority group within the larger
society.
  Certainly, no one would argue that blind people were attacked  with
fire-hoses or lynched while trying to exercise their rights.  I  do know of
plenty of instances when blind persons were arrested for refusing  to move
from exit-row seating to which they were legitimately assigned on  airplanes
and I know of one incident wherein a blind person was severely  beaten for
being a NFB member.

  I believe there's a bit about this comparison in Dr.  
Jernigan's
 1976 banquet
  speech, "Of visions and Vultures".

  I appreciate your question to clarify the comparison.

  Mike


  -----Original Message-----
  From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
 [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf  Of Darian Smith
  Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:23 PM
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in  others

  Mike:
  African-Americans/blacks (however one choosses to term  themselves)would
not have been too keen on the idea based upon how  they were  treated by
whites  up to that time.
   It is curious that how    african-americans were treated is
 always
  one of the first ways we as blind  people choose to make our  comparisons
in our struggle  for first-class citizanship.  I wonder,  were  blind people
beatin and hosed down when they peacefully protest  the unjust  ways they
were treated? Were  they lybnched?  Can we safely  make those  comparisons?
 unless  I am missing something (I could be,  and it wouldn't be  the first
or  last time I have), we  have some  similarities with regards to  civil
rights,  but largely our histories  were quite different and  the scars,
deaths,risks  were felt on largely  different levels.


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