[nabs-l] Ebook Accessibility/The Future of NLS And Bookshare

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Tue May 31 22:54:24 UTC 2011


Um...  that's not our job.  Only Humanware or Hims or Freedom 
Scientific can control the price of the products they sell.  How 
do you propose "us" lowering the prices?"

 Chris

"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)

--- Sent from my BrailleNote

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 25 May 2011 19:32:27 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ebook Accessibility/The Future of NLS And 
Bookshare

Yes.
Here's the thing though:
how can we deal with the note taker prices?
These companies obviously make more money off of sales to 
government agencies since not many people can afford individual 
purchases.
This said, how can we lower the price?


On May 25, 2011, at 6:13 PM, <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> 
<bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:

 HBrice,
 Awesome points and I thought the same thing.  It seems like 
there is this belief that well if I got the technology and can 
use it, then everyone can do it.  Not so.  Rehab only gets you 
technology as a student.  A VR stream is over $300 and some can't 
afford that even.  A notetaker is about 4 k or 6 k.
 And folks, not everyone wants an Iphone or I Touch.
 Brice said
 "As mentioned, I would be perfectly fine with NLS or BookShare 
cracking
 down on piracy of ebooks.  I delete the materials when I'm done 
with
 them anyway, and think that everyone else should too.  This type 
of
 thing could never be full proof but might help alleviate the 
cries of
 unfairness on the topic."

 Yes, I do too; I delete when I'm done, although I'll admit some 
real good books, I have kept.
 Sighted students have options to rent books and as Brice said if 
you buy the book you cannot sell it back if your DSS scanned it.
 So those two things are unfair to us.  I don't see a win-win 
solution.
 I want to see ebook readers accessible, and once they are and 
are wide spread we may see the slow, I mean slow, decline of 
bookshare.
 But I predict that NLS will stay as long as traditional 
libraries stay.

 Ashley

 -----Original Message----- From: Brice Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:53 PM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ebook Accessibility/The Future of NLS And 
Bookshare

 What's also not fair is paying full price for a textbook and 
being
 unable to return the material at the end of the semester like 
other
 students because your DSO ripped and scanned the book.  In that 
case,
 keeping the PDF or text file is perfectly justifiable, in my 
opinion.
 By the way: one of my friends rents her textbooks online, 
photocopies
 the pages she needs, and returns the book within the return 
limit.
 Blind people are not the only ones that unfairly cheat the 
system.
 *grin*

 As mentioned, I would be perfectly fine with NLS or BookShare 
cracking
 down on piracy of ebooks.  I delete the materials when I'm done 
with
 them anyway, and think that everyone else should too.  This type 
of
 thing could never be full proof but might help alleviate the 
cries of
 unfairness on the topic.

 There seems to be an increasing but small minority of "elite" 
blind
 people, a lot of whom are on these lists.  These people have 
Braille
 displays, Apple iPhones or n86 phones with KNFB Reader, the 
latest
 computer technology and money and/or resources from rehab or 
another
 source which sometimes makes them somewhat unconsciously 
disconnected
 from reality.  This is a problem when we stop realizing that not
 everyone has access to all this and start taking away options 
for
 others that does more harm than good.

 Brice

 On 5/25/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net 
<bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
 wouldn't mind  if NLS had a time limit on their downloadable 
books.  But
 getting hard copy is similar to the library; you got to return 
hard copy
 books or the digital books within a month.  I think the 
borrowing there is
 similar to a sighted person borrowing from a library; only thing 
is NLS only
 has a fraction of the library.  Kirt, my schools also require 
proof
 of purchase before they make an accessible book via the 
publisher sending
 electronic text.  I'm fine with that because sighted students 
have to buy
 books too.  I see what you say about downloading books free.  I 
guess that
 is the loop hole in digital downloads.
 But if you get an old fashion CD from Learning Ally, you still 
have to
 return it.

 Ashley

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Kirt Manwaring
 Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:02 PM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ebook Accessibility/The Future of NLS And 
Bookshare

 Kevin,
  Not a bad idea.  But the thing is some kinds of textbooks (ala
 calculus, chemistry, etc) that are symbol-intensive are still
 problematic in electronic braille.  But I guess having the 
choice to
 read them that way isn't a bad thing.
  Ashley, I hear you.  Does rehab not help pay for readers?  And, 
as I
 said, I wouldn't mind if digital braille lending libraries like 
NLS
 implimented a real way to make sure you couldn't just download a 
book
 in braille and keep it forever-for sighted people, that usually
 results in huge library fines.  And of course most people can 
buy
 paperbacks at pretty cheap prices-with Audible and Blio and the 
Kindle
 and IOS devices (especially if and when braille access 
improves), we
 have the ability to buy ebooks at the same prices everyone else 
has
 to.  Downloading a book for free from bookshare or learning ally 
is
 not the same as going to the library and checking out a book 
because
 libraries have return policies (even for ebooks and digital
 audiobooks), so as to not violate copyright law.  We can 
download a
 .brf book for free, which anyone else has to pay for if they 
want to
 keep instead of borrow.
  And I have another question.  I recognize the need for 
accessible
 textbooks.  My university accessibility center requires that I 
first
 purchase any book before they can make it accessible, which is
 perfectly reasonable-other students, after all, have to buy 
their
 textbooks  if they want to own them.  So why on earth can we
 permanently get college textbooks for _free_, which we can keep 
for as
 long as we like...in effect, we're buying books without paying 
for
 them.  Were I a book publisher, I'd probably be a little bit 
ticked
 about that.  I'm all for accessibility, but shouldn't we have to 
pay
 for our books if we want to keep them, just like everyone else 
has to?
 How on earth is this fair?

 On 5/25/11, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:
 Kirt,

 Well, I tried to cover this before but perhaps didn't do it well 
enough.
 Saying that the availability of novels is probably fairly 
straight-forward
 is not the same
 as saying that we already have access to them.  In some cases we 
do,
 through
 BLIO, for example.  However, I still believe that discarding the 
old
 infrastructures that have been built up over many years is a bit 
premature
 until we get a better sense of where electronic texts and their
 accessability is truly
 going.  I don't doubt the commitment of BLIO to accessibility, 
but I do
 think that we can't say at this point how well the general 
market will
 support BLIO and
 that's important for it to work.  It will take some time for 
many of us to
 get used to reading with a synthesized voice, even if it is 
pretty good.
 There are also
 many for whom technology is still a challenge.  These things 
will probably
 change over time, but they are still true barriers today and 
will be so
 for
 a while yet.

 Electronic texts probably will have an impact on BookShare over 
time.
 Also,
 we are about the only organization of blind people who ever 
questions
 whether
 we need a given service, so even if we were to all agree that it 
is time
 to
 abandon BookShare and buy e-texts, there will be others who wil 
oppose
 that.

 Still, my contention is simply that we need to see better how 
the
 electronic
 text market matures and how accessibility fairs before 
advocating big
 changes in
 how we get books.  Examining whether we are receiving 
preferential
 treatment
 is always a good thing to do in my opinion, and I hope we're 
honest enough
 with ourselves to continue this kind of self-examination.  At 
the same
 time,
 we have to be careful to not trade a service we have for 
promises of what
 will be,
 and we also need to be careful not to sell out those of us who 
are less
 technical or on lower incomes.

 Best regards,

 Steve Jacobson

 On Wed, 25 May 2011 13:24:50 -0600, Kirt Manwaring wrote:

 Steve,
 One other thing I didn't catch from your last email.  If access 
to
 novels from mainstream sources is pretty straightforward, why do 
we
 still insist on getting these novels from bookshare and learning 
ally
 for free?  I'd personally like it if NLS implimented some sort 
of
 delete timer in to their downloads like lots of other digital 
ebook
 lending libraries do.  (overdrive anyone?)  But if we can read 
our
 novels in braille through ibooks or blio, where we can buy them
 honestly, why do we still demand getting these novels from 
bookshare
 or learning ally for free?  Sounds like preferential treatment 
to me,
 at least with books that aren't textbooks.
 Warmly,
 Kirt

 On 5/25/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
 Steve,
  Fair enough.  I was a bit too bold and am probably a bit too
 optomistic-I'll defer to you on that front.  And scientific/math
 notation has always been a problem with electronic braille, 
hasn't it?
 I think that's one area where paper braille, for all its 
annoyances,
 will probably always be superior, barring some crazy new 
inovation
 making braille displays bigger and representing tactile graphics 
with
 the braille pins or something.  It'll need to be that drastic, I
 think, to make rendering of graphics in refreshable braille even
 comparable to paper braille with embossers and so forth...so 
we'll
 probably be grappling with that issue for a long time, 
regardless of
 what happens to bookshare.  I certainly wouldn't trust a math or
 science textbook from bookshare-they've had problems enough with
 literary braille.
  I see your point about brand names.  But when one of those 
brands is
 owned and operated by the NFB, I feel a lot more comfortable 
about
 that brand providing braille support.  It's not a guarantee of 
course
 (I've honestly been a bit disappointed with the blio so far) but 
it
 makes me feel pretty comfortable that blio will get better and 
braille
 access will improve.  I hope the good people at KNFB don't
 disappoint-the NFB's set a pretty good precedent for 
accessibility so
 far and it'd be a shame if Blio doesn't hit the mark.
  Warmly,
 Kirt

 On 5/25/11, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:
 Kirt,

 As I see it, we need to get access to e-books, and there are 
some
 things
 happening that hold great promise.  I think that giving us 
access to a
 novel, for
 example, is probably pretty straight-forward in most cases.  We 
need
 access
 to E-texts to even have a chance at accessing more mainstream 
titles,
 so
 I
 am
 not suggesting that this isn't important.

 There is a lot up in the air yet with respect to scientific and 
math
 notation and how information in drawings should be conveyed.  
This may
 not
 be that
 important for leisure reading, but it is very important in 
textbooks.
 Perhaps it will evolve that organizations such as Learning Ally 
will
 concentrate on making
 the various drawings accessible.  They might then create a final
 product
 by
 merging their special representation of drawings with the text 
that is
 already
 available.  I think we may have a harder time forcing publishers 
to
 create
 accessible drawings because that goes a bit further than just 
taking
 the
 same text
 and making it available in another format.

 My second reason for hanging back on this is that all of the 
tools you
 name
 are brand names, products of a specific company.  We don't know 
what
 sort
 of
 availability of accessible texts will be maintained over time.  
The
 industry
 is new, and we don't know a lot yet about consistency.  What if 
some
 new
 way
 of
 displaying text catches on in five years and the approach used 
is hard
 to
 make accessible.  My point isn't that there isn't reason to have 
some
 hope,
 but
 rather that we need to base those services we decide we no 
longer need
 on
 what is there now and not on what we think will be the case 
eventually.
 In
 1997 or so, Adobe made a committment, due in part to pressure, 
to make
 their
 Acrobat Reader accessible.  Even with their efforts, our 
governor
 yesterday
 released statements using PDF documents that were not 
accessible.  I
 would
 never have thought in 1997 that there would still be 
inaccessible PDF's
 in
 2011.  We justneed to be cautious when predicting where 
technology
 goes.

 Best regards,

 Steve Jacobson

 On Wed, 25 May 2011 11:42:15 -0600, Kirt Manwaring wrote:

 Steve and Mike,
 You're the technology people here, so I won't argue this too 
hard.
 But are my statements about braille access to textbooks 
premature?
 Isn't that kind of a huge reason why we're making the Blio 
reader and
 working with Amazon on their Kindel?  Are you saying that an 
ebook
 reader, produced in part by the NFB, which is free, will not 
become
 more accessible and will not support braille access?  That seems 
a bit
 silly to me.  What about websites like coursesmart?  You guys 
know
 more about this than I do but it seems to me that we're moving 
fast
 towards access to mainstream books in braille.
 Steve, I'd submit that we'd need the expensive technology to 
read
 electronic braille, with or without bookshare.  If we want to 
read a
 bookshare file in electronic braille, we need one of those 
expensive
 braille displays or notetakers-we'd need the exact same 
technology
 setup to read a mainstream braille book through Blio or 
coursesmart or
 (I still think before too long) the Kindel.  We'd just have to 
pay the
 same price for our books the sighted have to pay-if we don't 
have the
 money, maybe that's an insentive to start working or, at the 
very
 least, better manage our precious SSI.
 Just my thoughts,
 Kirt

 On 5/25/11, Liz Bottner <liziswhatis at hotmail.com> wrote:
 TO my knowledge, book publishers are actually partnering with
 BookShare
 to
 make their books available and accessible.  I do think that 
quality of
 BKS
 books has improved over the years.

 Liz Bottner
 Guiding Eyes Graduate Council
 GEB Voicemail:  800-942-0149 Ext.  2531
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 liziswhatis at hotmail.com
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 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
 Behalf
 Of Sally Thomas
 Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:20 AM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ebook Accessibility/The Future of NLS And
 Bookshare

 There really needs to be some entity that is REQUIRED to produce
 accessible
 textbooks.  That process is a bit different than the process 
need to
 translate novels into braille.  I think it's great that more and 
more
 books
 are easily accessible with the new technology available, but it 
would
 be
 foolish to assume that publishers are going to put accessibility
 first
 when
 designing electronic files.  The NIMAC is the repository of
 accessible
 textbook files.  Textbook companies are required to make K-12
 textbooks
 accessible.

 Perhaps there is a more streamlined way to get good braille in 
the
 hands
 of
 blind students than using Bookshare but there needs to be a 
dedicated
 process for producing quality braille.

 Sally Thomas


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Kirt Manwaring" <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ebook Accessibility/The Future of NLS And
 Bookshare


 One more thing (I hate double posting, but I sure do it a lot),
  Maybe I was being just a bit too bold-we're not quite to the 
point
 where mainstream ebooks are as accessible as bookshare files or 
RFB&D
 audiobooks...but we're moving there fast.  I don't think it'll 
be too
 long until you can read a Kindle book or a Blio book on your
 notetaker
 or smart phone with braille display.  The technology's out 
there, it
 just needs to be developed and put to use a little bit more-and 
that
 trend's already started with Apple and Blio.  But it won't be 
too
 long
 until reading a mainstream ebook in braille, on any platform we 
use
 to
 read electronic braille now, will be as saemless and practical 
as
 using bookshare.  When that happens (and it's certainly not far 
off),
 I suspect we'll have an interesting philosophical debate on our
 hands...and you all better know where I'll stand after my last 
few
 posts.  *grin*  And now, for me, I don't need bookshare anymore 
to
 get
 ebooks for free I should buy and I feel like Learning Ally books 
are
 probably the same because of Audible (although audible's library
 isn't
 as extensive for textbooks), and I feel a little guilty every 
time I
 download a learning ally book for free that I should buy, just 
like
 every sighted person out there has to buy audiobooks instead of
 getting them on a silver platter
  I'm done now,
 Kirt

 On 5/24/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
 Julie,
  More and more sighted people are reading ebooks instead of 
going
 to
 libraries or buying them hardcopy.  The ability to read 
mainstream
 ebooks in braille, not just on apple devices but on computers 
and
 probably notetakers before too long, is expanding at a 
tremendous
 rate!  If we want to borrow a hardcopy book, we should use a 
library
 like everyone else does.  If we want to buy a hard copy braille 
book
 we should use a book store (ala NBP), just like sighted people 
have
 to
 buy hardcopy books if they want to keep them.  Maybe it's a
 worthwhile
 idea to see if government can subsidize NBP and similar 
bookstores
 so
 we have to pay the same price as everyone else.  But if we want 
to
 get
 an ebook to keep, we should have to buy it.  Just like everyone
 else.
 And the technology to read ebooks in braille (not just on apple
 devices, but with a braille display and a computer) is already 
here
 and expanding fast!  Can somebody tell me why, if we want to be
 treated equally, we're clinging to free ebooks when we have 
options
 (again, not just apple!), to buy our ebooks just like everyone 
else
 and read them with braille displays?  If that's not hippocricy, 
I
 honestly don't know what is.
  I don't mean to insult anyone, offend anyone, or hurt anyone's
 feelings.  But I obviously feel pretty strongly about 
this-please
 don't take my passion as a personal attack.
  With respect,
 Kirt

 On 5/24/11, Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com> wrote:
 Well said.  I agree with those statements.

 I was thinking about it that way as well.  What do sighted 
people
 do
 when they want a new book?  They go to the public library, or 
they
 go
 to Borders or some other book store.  Sometimes they go on 
Amazon
 and
 order hard copy books.

 We, however, do not get hard copy braille books very easily.  
No,
 not
 many books are "made" (I mean specifically made, not just 
embossed
 by
 the common people) for distribution.  But we need equal access 
to
 books, so we get all these different formats in which we can get
 them.

 I think he is confused about the term equal access.  It doesn't
 mean
 that *everyone* needs to buy an iPad or whatever and download 
books
 just like the sighted people do.  It means that we can have the
 same
 choices as the sighted people.  Equal access, equal choices.  If 
we
 don't want to read our books on an Apple device, we shouldn't be
 forced to, and if we want to read all our books on iPhones, then
 that
 is our choice as well, but we shouldn't have choices taken away
 from
 us in the guise of equal access.  Are all sighted people going 
to
 switch over to reading their books on their Apple divices?  No.
 Just
 us.  That just doesn't seem right to me.

 I'm sure I'm completely crazy in saying all these random things,
 but
 I
 find this is my opinion.  Sorry for subjecting you to my 
rambles.



 On 5/24/11, Brice Smith <brice.smith319 at gmail.com> wrote:
 Besides the undercurrent of Apple snobbery here ("It seems to 
me,
 and
 many others who have embraced the integrated access of Apple
 products,
 that some quarters of the visually impaired community desire 
equal
 access without equal responsibility,) I have one MAJOR,
 fundamental
 problem with this article:

 ":
 For those who may argue that, given the high percentage of
 visually
 impaired individuals with low or limited incomes, they simply
 cannot
 afford to purchase books, I have two questions.  First, what of 
all
 of
 the sighted individuals who are in similar circumstances? The
 unemployment rate continues at high levels, and I'm sure many of
 those
 who are currently facing hard times would love a treasure trove 
of
 free books at their fingertips.  Why don't we open BookShare.org 
or
 NLS
 up to these unfortunates?"

 Sighted individuals do have a treasure trove of free books at
 their
 disposal.  It's called the public library, Josh.

 Of course, I treat BookShare like a library, in that I 
immediately
 delete what I download when I'm finished reading.  I'm sure that
 many
 users of BookShare  and NLS keep everything they download, and I
 would
 not mind at all if Bookshare or NLS encouraged and moved towards 
a
 model of renting and borrowing as opposed to downloading and
 keeping.
 Still, BookShare is my treasure trove and rental service for 
books
 as
 the public library is the treasure trove and rental service for
 sighted individuals.

 Brice

 On 5/24/11, Kerri Kosten <kerrik2006 at gmail.com> wrote:
 Hey Guys:

 I came across an interesting editorial/article written by Josh
 DeLioncourt from lioncourt.com/the Maccessibility Network and I
 wanted
 to get your thoughts.

 The article discusses the future of NLS and Bookshare and the
 rise
 of
 ebooks.  It suggests that as visually impaired/blind people we
 should
 try to move towards a future of reading/purchasing Ebooks from
 mainstream sources such as the Amazon Kindle, Audible.com, and
 Apple's
 Ibooks and that blindness-specific sources such as Bookshare.org
 and
 the NLS library service should go away.

 Just for discussion sake what are your thoughts?

 Do you see NLS and Bookshare completely going away in the 
future?

 Just for what it's worth, here are my thoughts.

 While mainstream sources are great, what about braille and
 braille
 literacy? You can't use a braille display to read Kindle books.
 Audible books are audio so no braille there.  As far as I know
 (someone
 correct me if I'm wrong) you can't read Ibooks with a braille
 display
 either.  I for one love Bookshare because you can download the
 books
 in
 BRF files and read them in braille on either a braille display 
or
 a
 notetaker.  You can also get hardcopy braille books from NLS.

 What about those who do not like the voice used by the Amazon
 Kindle
 and the Samantha voice on the Iphone? I for one hate those 
voices
 for
 reading book purposes...I've tried and just can't get into them
 for
 reading.

 What about seniors just losing their vision? Though I hope as
 many
 people get into technology as possible you have to be somewhat
 computer savvy to work the kindle PC software and the Ibooks app
 for
 the Iphone/Ipod touch/Ipad is all touchscreen.

 Just my thoughts...I would be very very sad if NLS and Bookshare
 went
 away completely.

 hHere is the article...just thought I'd bring this up for
 discussion
 purposes.

 Kerri

 Crossroads: Rekindling the Accessible Ebook Discussion
 by Josh de Lioncourt
 A few weeks ago, I read a question posed by someone on Twitter
 that
 rekindled a line of thought I have had on and off for a couple 
of
 years.  In essence, the question was this: "We have 
BookShare.org,
 the
 National Library Service, and other similar resources.  Why 
should
 we
 care about the accessibility of eBook platforms like iBooks,
 Kindle,
 Adobe Digital Editions, etc?"

 On the surface, this question, which has been posed by several
 people
 with whom I've been acquainted, appears to be a pragmatic one.  
If
 one
 digs a little deeper, however, it becomes an illustration of an
 alarming attitude, often an unconscious one, throughout the
 visually
 impaired community.

 Before exploring that aspect, though, let's take a quick look at
 just
 a few of the strictly practical answers that can be given to 
this
 question.

 .In general, books released in printed form are now
 simultaneously
 available in digital formats.  This provides readers and 
students
 with
 access to material, be it for pleasure, education, or work, at
 the
 same time as their sighted counterparts.  This is rarely the 
case
 with
 publications offered through many of the resources aimed at
 providing
 materials in accessible formats.
 .Many of the resources which provide accessible materials are
 understandably required to obtain medical proof of disability
 from
 their users before they are able to gain access to the content
 provided.  Some users may be unwilling or unable to jump through
 these
 hoops, or find it a violation of privacy.
 .Some services require expensive, unwieldy, or otherwise
 undesirable
 or inefficient equipment to access their content.  By contrast,
 commercial solutions like Apple's iBooks and Amazon's Kindle
 provide
 access to their content across a variety of mainstream devices,
 including mobile phones.
 .Some resources of accessible content, (i.e.  BookShare.org),
 charge
 a
 recurring fee for the service.  For avid readers who consume 
large
 number of books each year, this is undoubtedly a cost-efficient
 solution.  For those who read only occasionally, however, it can
 prove
 far more costly than purchasing books from a digital retailer.
 .Many books are never made available in accessible formats
 through
 these
 bodies.
 This is by no means an exhaustive list of practical reasons why 
a
 visually impaired user may prefer access to a digital e-book
 platform,
 but it does provide a sample of the variety of such reasons.  No
 one
 solution will ever work for all users, and that must be always
 kept
 in
 mind when topics such as this are discussed or debated.

 There is a far more important issue that this subject raises,
 however.
 It is best expressed in the form of a question: "As visually
 impaired
 people, what is it we desire most: equal access, or preferential
 treatment?"

 Several years ago, this was not nearly as legitimate of a
 question.
 Services like NLS and BookShare provided materials that were
 otherwise
 inaccessible to those with visual impairments or other
 disabilities
 in
 a manner that was equivalent to public libraries.

 With the ever increasing ubiquity of the Internet, the
 availability
 and usage of public libraries around the globe has fallen
 sharply.
 Research can be done far more efficiently online, where the
 wealth
 of
 information is virtually limitless and growing all the time.  A
 WikiPedia article outlines the basic statistics of the decline 
of
 library use over the last twenty years.  As far back as 2001, 
93%
 of
 college students felt it made more sense to obtain the
 information
 they needed online than by visiting a physical library.

 The majority of information online is, of course, far more
 accessible
 than the visually impaired have ever had access to in the past.
 Few
 technological advances, if any, have had such a profound impact
 on
 the
 quality of life for visually impaired individuals, and you will
 find
 none who would argue that point.

 With the decline of libraries as a research tool has come the
 decline
 of their usage as a source of books consumed for pleasure as
 well.
 Ask
 yourself this: how many sighted readers do you know who
 regularly,
 or
 exclusively, obtain books for a local public library to read.  
The
 answer will be very few, if any.  These days, most avid readers
 purchase books to read, just like any other form of 
entertainment
 media such as music or movies.

 While the usefulness of services like NLS or BookShare.org in
 years
 passed is undeniable, their necessity is waning in the wake of
 accessible mainstream sources of materials such as iBooks,
 Inkling,
 and Audible.com.  Though services providing accessible content 
to
 those
 with disabilities may still be the best, or in some cases the
 only,
 solution for some users today, we should be actively moving
 toward
 a
 future of equal access with our sighted peers.

 It seems to me, and many others who have embraced the integrated
 access of Apple products, that some quarters of the visually
 impaired
 community desire equal access without equal responsibility,
 especially
 when regards written material.  Do we, the visually impaired
 community,
 purchase music like everyone else? Do we buy DVD's like everyone
 else?
 Do we pay for Coca-Colas at the corner store or our lattes at
 StarBucks? Why not our books as well? Is the entertainment or
 educational value of a novel by Stephen King or a instructional
 text
 on programming C++so low that we feel it isn't worth as much as
 we
 pay
 for the latest album by Lady Gaga or a course at the local
 community
 college?

 For those who may argue that, given the high percentage of
 visually
 impaired individuals with low or limited incomes, they simply
 cannot
 afford to purchase books, I have two questions.

 First, what of all of the sighted individuals who are in similar
 circumstances? The unemployment rate continues at high levels,
 and
 I'm
 sure many of those who are currently facing hard times would 
love
 a
 treasure trove of free books at their fingertips.  Why don't we
 open
 BookShare.org or NLS up to these unfortunates?

 Second, what about all the funds wasted, be it by individuals or
 government agencies, on access technology which is less capable
 than
 mainstream solutions? For example, the GW Micro BookSense is
 available
 in $349 USD and $499 USD varieties.  It allows visually impaired
 users
 to read books in electronic format and listen to audio books or
 music.
 How is this a better value than, for example, an iPod touch,
 which
 provides the same functionality, plus Internet access, email, 
and
 tens
 of thousands of applications to extend its capabilities starting
 at
 just $229 USD? This isn't even to mention the fact that the iPod
 touch
 can be connected to a Braille display, has significantly more
 storage,
 and a battery warranty that is twice the length of what users 
get
 from
 the BookSense.  Wouldn't money saved by integrated solutions
 ultimately
 be better spent compensating the authors of useful or
 entertaining
 books for their hard work?

 Is it not the height of hypocrisy that the visually impaired
 community
 wastes not a moment in lambasting, (even suing), companies like
 Amazon
 for a lack of accessibility in its Kindle products, and yet 
balks
 at
 the notion that we begin moving away from having the majority of
 our
 printed materials handed over for free?

 We, the visually impaired community, are rapidly approaching a
 crossroads.  It is time to prove that we have the courage of our
 convictions.  Will we be worthy of equal access, and by 
extension
 equal
 opportunities? Or will we squander the chance to put ourselves 
on
 equal footing with the sighted world by an unwillingness to move
 forward with society, and a misplaced sense of entitlement?

 I know which outcome I'm hoping for.

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