[nabs-l] Taking dance and acting to learnnaturalmovementandexpressions

Sat Nov 19 19:00:24 UTC 2011

Hi,
Due to the spelling, I suspected it was a nickname; and I've met more 
girls/ladies who liked dancing. But yeah guys do it too.
Also in the past, its been only girls who spoke up on list regarding dance.
You said you liked modern dancing; I have not met a guy who did modern 
dance, thought it was a girl thing.

The others you did: latin ballroom, swing, and hip hop are definitely for 
both sexes; and yes you need a partner of the opposite sex for some of them.

How many years were you on the college dance team? Was your major or minor 
in performing arts?
You're right that colleges offer these types of beginning classes and so 
does the Y and county recreation centers.

Were all your lessons in a class though? I've been discouraged from taking 
dance in a class. They do it by demonstration and go fast.
In a class, the instructor teaches the guy part and the girl part separately 
and then once you practice it, you have a partner to do it together.
I learn a little slower when it comes to gross motor moves and I am not the 
greatest of following directions of right and left.
I've been told I can do it privately by my parents, but that is so 
expensive. I don't know how much Authur Murray dance studio charges, but its 
probably a lot. I probably could only afford 4 or five lessons.
A blind friend took private tap, and he said it was $75 per lesson.

I actually did try a ballroom dance at the university, and it was a 
disaster; the instructor was rude and did not want to accommodate.
me. My vision impairment caused my feet to turn out and I walk with a gait; 
he said oh you have to put your feet straight to dance and that my balance 
was an issue. I know it is sometimes, but I said I would be dancing with a 
partner, and had danced before with people without falling or anything.

Anyway, I'd love to try dance again.
Glad you liked it and it worked out.
Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Andi
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:09 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Taking dance and acting to 
learnnaturalmovementandexpressions

Yes I am a girl my name is Adrianne, and Andi is my nick name, it comes from
my initials.  However just because I did dance, that is not a reason to
assume I am a girl.  Their were many guys on both my dance teams and you can
not do treditional or Lattin ball room or swing with out a partner.  Most of
the time it is a boy girl thing.  Not always but tipically.  When I took hip
hop the guys outnumbered the girls.  Actually men who dance usually get
extra sex appeal points in most womens eyes.  I recommend dance for everyone
male or female.  Like I said before it is great for gaining a more natural
appearance and it is also a great way to stay in shape.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ashley Bramlett
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 11:39 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Taking dance and acting to learn
naturalmovementandexpressions

So you're a girl, Andi?

-----Original Message----- 
From: Andi
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:20 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Taking dance and acting to learn natural
movementandexpressions

Yes any dance form to truly be performance ready takes many years and
dedacation, but any dance class would be helpful.  I took several diferent
dance classes for many years and was on my HI school and college dance teams
so I agree with what you are saying.  However there are shorter classes
designed to give the basics in lattin ballroom, swing,  treditional ball
room, and hip hop.  The Y offers such classes as well as  community
colleges.  It will not make anyone a professional but it will deffenatly
help.  Zoomba classes are also offered at many gyms and will be just as
helpful as well as give anyone who does it a rockin body.  You are so right
about the acting classes and I never thought of moddaling classes.  I think
it is awesome you did ballet that was one thing I never had the disaplin
for.  I didn't like the idea of my feet bleeding.  It is so beautiful
though.  I took the easy way on that front and did moddern.  My favorite was
lattin ballroom though because I like the rhythms and how sexy it feels and
looks.  I allso really loved swing because it is so fun and hi energy that
even if you mess up you cant help but smile.  Also it is much simpaler to
cover a mistake in swing.  How long did you dance for?

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 2:44 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking dance and acting to learn natural movement
andexpressions

I danced for many years including ballet, including pointe. It's very
true that ballet dancers learn to position, and move, their bodies in
inorganic ways. The motion, when done well, is very graceful and fluid,
but the process to harness the technique can take years and actually can
do quite a number on your body.

Though other dance forms like jazz or tap are not quite as unforgiving
as ballet, they still require a lot of discipline to do, especially to
master.

However, if wanting to learn how to move more naturally, dance certainly
can help. Many professional athletes take dance, including ballet, in
order to move better on the field or pitch or rink or whatever the case
may be.

I also have a background in theatre and minored in it when at university
back in 2000. Acting, at least stage acting, pays a lot of attention to
body movement and facial expressions. Voice is also extremely important.
Taking an acting class can assist with more natural body movements, but
be aware that in an acting class, you'll be expected to perform in front
of your peers, being judged. If you can't handle constructive criticism,
or are extremely introverted, an acting class may not be the best
option. Even in a more informal acting class, you will have to perform
monologues and duets and group scenes.

Another way to learn a more natural body movement is to take modeling
classes. Now, these can cost, but so can dance and acting classes- it's
something to invesigate before signing up. Modeling classes will teach
you specifically how to walk and how to use your face to relay things.
Models on the runway often use an unnatural gate, but in modeling class
itself, you learn how to carry yourself meaning you learn how to move in
a graceful, fluid manner.

Sincerely,
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Read my blog at:
http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/

"History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan

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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:54:04 -0500
From: "Andi" <adrianne.dempsey at gmail.com>
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Actually you make a good point about acting and dance classes.  Both are

good ways to improve nonverbal skills.  Dance classes will help loosen
stiff
postures and movements and acting classes will help with the facial
expressions.  When I started dance classes I felt even more stiff at
first
because I was thinking to hard about the movements and that is true for
sighted people as well.  However as the classes went on I found myself
not
only more fluid on stage and on the dance floor, but more natural
looking in
everyday movements.  Acting is usually exadurated expressions because of
the
distence between the stage and the audionce, but if a person has atrophy

they will have to try exadurated expressions at first anyway because the

face muscles will not move as easily.  The muscles will need more forse
so
what seems exadurated to an atrophyed face will not really be.
Eventually
as people practis the expressions will be more natural and easier.  Not
only
facial expressions but hand placement body stance and a lot of other
little
details.  I hyly recommend both dance and acting classes for anyone who
wishes to look more natural.  Most people but not all who are blind from

birth have somewhat stiff and unnatural looking movements and do not
realize
it because it is what they have allways done and so it feels natural to
them.  I use to be like this and no one ever said anything to me about
it
because it was not tarrible, but after I took dance I realized how much
more
natural I walk and move now compared to then.  My sister told me the
same
thing, but I could actually feel the difference.  I do not recommend
ballet
for this, don't get me wrong it is a beautiful art form and if you are
in to
that it is wonderful, but it is stiff on perpous and they train for
years to
make their bodies do all sorts of unnatural things.  It is not for
someone
who is just wanting to have more natural movements.  I recommend latten
ballroom or hip hop or even modern, Especially lattin ballroom.  Acting
classes I am not as experienced with but It would defanatly be  helpful.
If
not a dance class a zoomba class would be good.  Yoga and any marcial
art is
also really helpful in this.  If you do not want to join a class contact
a
nonverbal comunication instructor and have that person give you facial
exercizes, but they are not easy to find.  It is truly possible to
override
atraphy no matter how long a person has ben out of practis but it is not

instant and it takes a lot of work on that persons part.  As for the
smiling
at private jokes, sighted people do it to but there is a eye movement
asociated with it that tells others it is a private thought, and the
smile
is usually breef.  However as long as you are not loling your head it is

probebly not that big of a deal.

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