[nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Sat Nov 26 21:58:28 UTC 2011

Is the Ipod tuch hard to use?

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Hope Paulos
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 10:36 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Hi there RJ. Voiceover will tell me exactly where I am on the IPod touch.
Hope and Beignet
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

> Hope, how do you know where you are on the Ipod touch? RJ
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
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>>I have a Seika braille display and a netbook and it works great. ALso have

>>an ipod touch and am thinking about getting an iphone. You don't have to 
>>use the touch screen if you have a bluetooth keyboard. You just have to 
>>remember the keystrokes as you would on a PC. I'd go with the IOS over 
>>blindness products every time if I had the chance.
>> Hope Paulos
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>
>>
>>> But I like the blindness notetaker because I can read and write braille 
>>> on it. I think using a
>>> touch screen would require a lot of memory and spatial awareness. I 
>>> already have to memorize where things like end, send and okay are on my 
>>> basic cell phone! But if an IOS devices works for someone go ahead; it's

>>> a lot more portable than a heavy braille notetaker.
>>> I wonder what braille displays you can use with those IPhones and IOS 
>>> devices.
>>> Its cool that we have smaller, portable braille displays and keyboards 
>>> now.
>>> How neat to have those options. The only braille displays I saw were the

>>> large 40 cell and 80 cell displays, although I am aware of smaller ones.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Humberto Avila
>>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:56 PM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>>
>>> Yes, I think that is why some many blind people are using iPhones and 
>>> iPads
>>> as their personal note taking and at school too. I think that these
>>> mainstream IOS devices with voiceover will be the nearby future of the
>>> accessibility for the blind. Since those assistive technology products 
>>> made
>>> specifically for the blind are so expensive, blind people are going to 
>>> shift
>>> to those devices, since they come with screen reading accessibility out 
>>> of
>>> the box. Plus, they are not as expensive.  Additionally, since Braille
>>> displays are not as expensive as note takers, some might chose the 
>>> option to
>>> add a Braille display in combination to their IOS device instead of
>>> purchasing those major products such as Pacmate and Braille Note. If the
>>> trend continues like I mentioned, the Vocational Rehabilitation agencies
>>> better take notice of this and see fit. Besides, it would benefit their
>>> programs and services as well, and with this economy (if it continues to

>>> be
>>> bad), they will not have to suffer budget cuts by trying to help 
>>> individuals
>>> with their note takers because they are so expensive.
>>> So, Humanware and freedom Scientific, I'm sorry if I offend you at all, 
>>> I am
>>> not trying to be mean. Otherwise don't listen please!!!! (huge smile)
>>>
>>> P.S. wondering if this listserve is that much public?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Koby Cox
>>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 8:39 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>> Koby.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 25, 2011, at 10:32 PM, "RJ Sandefur" 
>>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks. Is voice over easy to learn? RJ
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:11 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd justify that the iPad is a cheap option.  The BrailleNote is hard 
>>>>> to
>>> repair and neeeds thousands of dollars just to maintain.  I love my BNQT
>>> Apex, but let' face it.  It's really expensive.
>>>>> Beth
>>>>> P.S. does anyone know what happened to Bluetooth on the BrailleNote?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:08:10 -0500
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>>>>
>>>>> Guys, I have a braille 'n speak, but I think it has bit the dust. I 
>>>>> was
>>> thinking of getting a braille note, but some one suggested getting an 
>>> iPad,
>>> or a laptop. I did some research on the iPad, and here's what I've 
>>> found.
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ipad/vision.html
>>>>> Do any of you use iPad's, and if so, who purchased it for you? If VR
>>>>> purchased it, How do you justify need for an Ipad? Sincerely, RJ
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