[nabs-l] The Right to Choose How to Fly

Tue Sep 13 00:26:28 UTC 2011

Ashley,

But=20sometimes=20you=20have=20to=20advocate,=20even=20if=20you=20don't=20w=
ant=20to.

Chris

=20Chris=20Nusbaum

"The=20real=20problem=20of=20blindness=20is=20not=20the=20loss=20of=20eyesi=
ght.=20=20The=20
real=20problem=20is=20the=20misunderstanding=20and=20lack=20of=20education=
=20that=20
exists.=20=20If=20a=20blind=20person=20has=20the=20proper=20training=20and=
=20
opportunity,=20blindness=20can=20be=20reduced=20to=20a=20mere=20physical=20=

nuisance."=20--=20Kenneth=20Jernigan=20(President=20of=20the=20National=20
Federation=20of=20the=20Blind,=201968-1986.)

=20=20Visit=20the=20I=20C.A.N.=20=20Foundation=20online=20at:=20
www.icanfoundation.info=20for
information=20on=20our=20foundation=20and=20how=20it=20helps=20blind=20and=
=20visually
impaired=20children=20in=20MD=20say=20"I=20can!"

Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Ashley=20Bramlett"=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2012=20Sep=202011=2015:30:40=20-0400
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20The=20Right=20to=20Choose=20How=20to=20Fly

Peter,
Flying=20privately=20sounds=20like=20a=20good=20alternative.=20=20With=20in=
creased=20
security,=20it=E2=80=99s
a=20hastle=20to=20put=20everything=20through=20the=20machine=20and=20retrie=
ve=20it.=20=20
Also=20you
have=20inaccessible=20kiosks=20and=20inaccessible=20websites.=20=20I=20actu=
ally=20
haven't=20flown
alone,=20but=20hearing=20all=20the=20stories=20of=20flying=20makes=20me=20a=
=20bit=20
nervous.=20=20Its
stressful=20enough=20to=20go=20through=20=20a=20busy=20airport,=20I=20don't=
=20want=20to=20
have=20to
advocate=20for=20the=20right=20to=20use=20my=20cane=20through=20out=20the=20=
airport=20
instead=20of
being=20in=20a=20wheelchair=20or=20the=20right=20to=20keep=20my=20cane=20on=
=20the=20plane=20
beside=20me.

So=20do=20you=20charter=20alone=20for=20you=20and=20your=20family?=20Is=20i=
t=20possible=20
to=20buy=20a
ticket=20on=20an=20existing=20charter=20plane=20just
as=20you=20would=20with=20a=20big=20airline?=20Do=20you=20choose=20to=20go=
=20alone=20to=20the=20
gate=20or=20do
you=20get=20an=20escort=20from=20the=20airport?=20I=20think=20they're=20cal=
led=20
skycaps.

Also,=20is=20getting=20a=20chartered=20aircraft=20much=20more=20expensive=20=
than=20a=20
one=20way
ticket=20from=20coast=20to=20coast?
I=20mean=20assuming=20you=20flew=20non=20stop.=20=20I=20want=20to
air=20charter=20to=20Las=20Vegas!

-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Peter=20Donahue
Sent:=20Monday,=20September=2012,=202011=202:47=20PM
To:=20nimerjaber1 at gmail.com=20;=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20
Students=20mailing
list
Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20The=20Right=20to=20Choose=20How=20to=20Fly

Good=20afternoon=20everyone,

Without=20trying=20to=20add=20anything=20to=20this=20thread=20you=20are=20r=
eplying=20to=20
a=20response
that=20has=20nothing=20to=20do=20with=209/11.=20=20Rather=20it's=20our=20ab=
ility=20to=20
choose=20how=20we
will=20fly=20be=20it=20on=20a=20scheduled=20airline=20or=20via=20private=20=
air=20charter.=20=20
If=20you're
both=20blind=20and=20large=20like=20I=20am=20these=20days=20that's=20=20a=20=
very=20real=20
decision=20some
of=20us=20must=20make.=20=20Again=20this=20has=20nothing=20to=20do=20what=20=
soever=20to=20do=20
with=209/11
but=20the=20right=20to=20decide=20how=20we=20as=20blind=20people=20choose=20=
to=20fly.=20=20
Please=20pay
more=20attention=20to=20the=20message=20subject=20line=20in=20the=20future.=
=20=20It=20
would=20also=20help
if=20people=20would=20be=20more=20vidulent=20=20about=20fitting=20their=20m=
essage=20
subject=20lines
to=20the=20topic=20being=20discussed.

Peter=20Donahue

-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Nimer=20M.=20=20Jaber,=20IC=C2=B3"=20<nimerjaber1 at gmail.com
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent:=20Monday,=20September=2012,=202011=2012:30=20PM
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

You=20people=20don't=20understand,=20do=20you?=20I=20don't=20agree=20with=20=
blind=20
people's
canes=20being=20taken=20away=20and=20all=20the=20rest=20of=20the=20stuff=20=
that's=20been
happening,=20although=20I=20have=20to=20say=20that=20for=20about=20five=20y=
ears=20now=20I=20
have
had=20no=20problems=20at=20all=20traveling,=20and=20I=20do=20it=20pretty=20=
often.=20=20I=20
know
there=20are=20issues.=20=20But=20what=20you=20people=20don't=20understand=20=
is,=20it's=20
the
difference=20between=20having=20the=20right=20to=20be=20independent=20and=20=
travel=20
with
a=20cane=20and=20not=20having=20the=20right=20at=20all.=20=20If=20we=20left=
=20our=20nation
vulnerable=20to=20attack,=20some=20group=20(whether=20it=20be=20Muslims=20o=
r=20some=20
other
group=20in=20the=20future)=20who=20are=20hell-bent=20on=20the=20US'=20distr=
uction=20
will
attack=20and=20if=20we're=20not=20ready,=20everything=20the=20United=20Stat=
es=20has=20
done,
everything=20that=20over=20200=20years=20of=20soldiers=20fought=20for=20wil=
l=20just=20
be
taken=20away.=20=20I'm=20shocked=20too=20as=20all=20this=20anti-american=20=
rhetoric=20
but=20I
can't=20be=20too=20surprised=20with=20a=20liberal=20media=20and=20liberal=20=
college
professors=20...=20=20Either=20way,=20everyone's=20got=20their=20own=20opin=
ions=20...

Thanks.

On=2012.09.2011,=20Peter=20Donahue=20<pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>=20wrote:
=20Hello=20Joshua=20and=20everyone,

=20Yes.=20=20Keep=20in=20mind=20however=20that=20these=20are=20not=20schedu=
led=20flights=20
like=20the
=20airlines.=20=20As=20air=20charter=20clients=20have=20needs=20to=20fly=20=
to=20your=20area=20
that=20will
=20determine=20the=20availability=20of=20flights=20to=20where=20you=20need=
=20to=20go=20
being
=20offered.

=20Peter=20Donahue

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Joshua=20Lester"=20<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Monday,=20September=2012,=202011=2010:39=20AM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

=20Do=20they=20have=20services,=20in=20Arkansas?
=20Thanks,=20Joshua

=20On=209/12/11,=20Peter=20Donahue=20<pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>=20wrote:
=20Hello=20Vejas=20and=20everyone,

=20Private=20air=20travel=20holds=20another=20alternative=20to=20using=20th=
e=20
airlines.=20=20There
=20are=20a=20number=20of=20private=20air=20charter=20services=20that=20sell=
=20you=20seats=20
on
=20chartered=20aircraft=20at=20about=20the=20cost=20of=20an=20airline=20tic=
ket.=20=20As=20
the
=20situation
=20with=20the=20airlines=20degrades=20even=20further=20these=20services=20a=
re=20
expected=20to
=20grow
=20changing=20how=20we=20fly=20in=20the=20future.=20=20From=20having=20talk=
ed=20to=20a=20
number=20of
=20private
=20air=20charter=20companies=20and=20air=20charter=20brokers=20it's=20very=
=20possible=20
that=20we
=20could=20find=20ourselves=20receiving=20better=20treatment=20by=20these=20=

services
=20compared
=20to=20that=20we've=20received=20from=20the=20airlines=20over=20the=20year=
s.
=20=20=20=20=20For=20starters=20the=20vast=20majority=20of=20air=20charter=
=20company=20=20Web=20
Sites=20=20are
=20very=20accessible=20with=20screen=20reading=20software=20and=20are=20eas=
y=20to=20
navigate.=20=20A
=20recent=20entry=20in=20to=20the=20world=20of=20per-seat=20private=20air=20=
travel=20
ventures=20is:
=20http://www.socialflights.com

=20=20=20=20=20While=20you=20need=20to=20get=20by=20a=20captcha=20in=20the=
=20signup=20process=20
their=20Web
=20site
=20is=20very=20accessible=20and=20contains=20lots=20of=20information=20abou=
t=20this=20
company.
=20It's
=20heavily=20integrated=20with=20Facebook=20so=20you'll=20need=20to=20have=
=20a=20
Facebook
=20Account
=20and=20will=20need=20to=20be=20logged=20in=20before=20registering=20and=20=
logging=20in=20
to=20Social
=20Flights.=20=20Check=20them=20out=20and=20let's=20take=20air=20travel=20b=
y=20the=20blind=20
to=20a
=20higher
=20level!

=20Peter=20Donahue

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"vejas"=20<brlsurfer at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Monday,=20September=2012,=202011=209:01=20AM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

=20Although=20independence=20is=20important,=20I=20still=20think=20our=20sa=
fety=20is
=20more=20important.=20=20Hopefully=20over=20the=20years,=20the=20airport=20=
people
=20will=20eventually=20understand=20our=20situation=20and=20not=20take=20aw=
ay=20our
=20canes.=20=20And=20we=20can=20do=20something=20about=20it=20being=20the=20=
confident=20NFB
=20travelers=20we=20are.
=20Vejas

=20=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20Beth=20<thebluesisloose at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing
=20list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2012=20Sep=202011=2005:44:39=20-0600
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

=20I=20understand=20that=20safety=20and=20security=20are=20an=20issue.=20=20=
But=20after
=209/11,=20airlines=20I=20think=20have=20been=20treating=20uss=20mercilessl=
y=20bad.
=20With=20no=20mercy,=20airlines=20have=20taken=20canes=20away,=20dug=20int=
o=20babies'
=20bottles,=20taken=20diapers=20off,=20and=20so=20many=20other=20violations=
=20of
=20people's=20privacy.=20=20I=20went=20to=20Florida=20with=20my=20hijab=20o=
n=20and=20I=20had
=20to=20have=20somebody=20pat=20me=20down.=20=20No=20thrills,=20but=20still=
.=20=20I=20don't
=20particularly=20like=20the=20security=20checkpoints=20because=20of=20how=
=20they
=20might=20think=20of=20a=20blind=20person,=20somebody=20who=20is=20not=20W=
ASP=20(white
=20Anlgo=20Saxon=20Protestant.)=20=20After=209/11,=20some=20things=20weren'=
t=20so
=20good,=20such=20as=20thhe=20airline=20security.=20=20Even=20after=20that=
=20stupid=20guy
=20put=20a=20bomb=20in=20his=20underwear,=20there=20were=20more=20security=
=20issues.
=20I'm=20probably=20not=20flying=20back=20to=20Florida=20after=20what=20my=
=20parents
=20did,=20which=20was=20get=20a=20security=20pass=20without=20boarding=20a=
=20plane,=20to
=20make=20sure=20I=20got=20home.=20=20The=20airlines=20have=20always=20been=
=20a=20source=20of
=20contempt=20for=20all=20of=20us,=20so=20let's=20think=20not=20only=20abou=
t=20the=20people
=20who=20died,=20but=20the=20repercussions=20that=20followed.
=20Beth

=20=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Ashley=20Bramlett"=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date=20sent:=20Sun,=2011=20Sep=202011=2015:54:50=20-0400
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

=20Thanks=20Josh,
=20I=20think=20we=20should=20take=20time=20to=20reflect=20on=20the=20traged=
y=20and=20also=20
be
=20active.
=20Vote=20for=20whom=20you=20believe=20will
=20make=20our=20country=20safe=20and=20secure.=20=20You're=20right=20that=20=
safety=20and
=20security=20is
=20an=20issue=20as=20we=20students=20head=20back=20to=20campus.=20=20Actual=
ly,=20I'm=20not=20
a
=20student
=20this=20semester,=20but=20will=20go=20back=20for=20continuing=20education=
=20next
=20semester=20at
=20nova,=20community=20college.

=20I'd=20suggest=20you=20get=20aquainted=20with=20your=20school's=20safety/=
police
=20office=20if=20you
=20haven't=20already;=20know=20where=20it=20is,=20know=20what=20their=20num=
ber=20is,=20
and
=20meet=20an=20officer=20or=20two.=20=20Some=20schools=20like=20mine,=20mar=
ymount
=20university,=20just
=20had=20security=20officers.
=20Know=20how=20to=20reach=20them=20as=20well.=20=20If=20you=20feel=20unsaf=
e,=20walk=20with
=20friends=20back
=20to=20your=20dorm=20or=20call=20a=20security=20escort.=20=20Many=20school=
s=20offer=20such
=20a
=20service.
=20At=20least=20at=20MU,=20after=2012=20midnight,=20you=20had=20to=20show=20=
an=20ID=20to=20
enter
=20the=20dorm;
=20this=20is=20a=20good=20thing.=20=20And=20also=20lock=20your=20dorm=20roo=
m,=20especially
=20at
=20night.
=20If=20there=20is=20a=20threat=20or=20natural=20disaster,=20I'd=20leave=20=
fast.=20=20Go=20to
=20a
=20friend's
=20home,=20family=20if=20they're=20in=20the=20area,=20or=20a=20hotel.=20=20=
Just=20go
=20somewhere=20safe.
=20Safety=20is=20a=20big=20priority.

=20Okay,=20that's=20my=20tips=20for=20now.

=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20Joshua=20Lester
=20Sent:=20Sunday,=20September=2011,=202011=203:33=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

=20Ashley:
=20Great=20post!
=20This=20has=20everything=20to=20do,=20with=20this=20list,=20because=20man=
y=20blind
=20students,=20are=20probably=20heading=20back=20to=20college,=20after=20be=
ing=20on
=20vacation.
=20This=20security=20issue=20is=20important.
=20May=20God=20bless=20America.
=20Blessings,=20Joshua

=20On=209/11/11,=20Ashley=20Bramlett=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net>=20wrote:=

=20=20Hi=20all,
=20=20We=20all=20have=20varying=20views=20on=20how=20to=20address=20safety=
=20and=20
security.
=20But
=20=20somehow,=20some=20way,=20those=20terrorists=20got=20through.
=20=20We=20were=20attacked=20a=20decade=20ago.
=20=20I=20was=20finishing=20a=20class=20in=20high=20school=20when=20I=20hea=
rd=20the=20news.
=20School=20was
=20=20closed=20the=20next=20day.=20=20Our=20school=20had=20an=20assembly=20=
where=20the
=20choir,
=20band,=20and
=20=20other=20groups=20performed=20to=20commemorate=209/11.
=20=20I=20hope=20that=20we=20all=20take=20a=20moment=20to=20reflect=20on=20=
it.=20=20I=20will=20be
=20praying=20for
=20=20our
=20=20country=20and=20everyone?=20safety/security=20on=20the=20anniversary.=

=20=20I?=20a=20Christian=20so=20I=20have=20faith=20that=20we=20will=20grow=
=20stronger=20as=20a
=20nation.=20=20If
=20=20you=20had=20a=20loved=20one=20impacted=20by=20the=20attack,=20I=20hop=
e=20you=20
recovered
=20somewhat
=20=20from=20the=20tragedy.

=20=20Some=20pray=20in=20churches,=20others=20are=20going=20to=20public=20m=
emorials
=20today=20and
=20=20still
=20=20others=20will=20do=20volunteer=20service=20to=20serve=20the=20country=
.=20=20If=20you
=20are=20doing
=20=20anything=20different=20or=20special,=20I=20hope=20it=20goes=20well=20=
for=20you.

=20=20Take=20care.
=20=20Ashley
=20=20_______________________________________________
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