[nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks

Tue Sep 13 00:40:47 UTC 2011

Hi=20Ashley,

I=20know=20there=20used=20to=20be=20a=20lot=20of=20problems,=20especially=20=
in=20the=2070's=20
and=20early=2080's,=20with=20airlines=20taking=20our=20canes=20away=20when=
=20we=20get=20
on=20the=20plane.=20=20There=20were=20a=20couple=20NFB=20songs=20written=20=
about=20this,=20
and=20I=20wish=20I=20could=20remember=20the=20line=20from=20"Daring=20Young=
=20Man=20on=20
the=20Flying=20Trapeze"=20about=20airlines=20taking=20blind=20people's=20ca=
nes,=20
but=20unfortunately=20I=20can't,=20nor=20can=20I=20find=20my=20song=20book=
=20at=20the=20
moment.=20=20All=20I=20remember=20is=20"But=20we=20say=20our=20white=20cane=
s=20will=20
stay."=20The=20Federation=20sued=20United=20Airlines=20about=20this=20in=20=
the=20late=20
70's=20(I'm=20not=20sure=20of=20the=20year)=20and=20won.=20=20I=20didn't=20=
know,=20however,=20
that=20we=20were=20having=20these=20problems.=20=20If=20we=20really=20are,=
=20and=20some=20
people=20are=20just=20overreacting=20to=20the=20fact=20that=20the=20TSA=20s=
ecurity=20
agents=20(who,=20by=20the=20way,=20aren't=20employed=20by=20the=20airlines,=
=20but=20are=20
government=20employees)=20X-ray=20your=20canes,=20I'd=20suggest=20to=20file=
=20a=20
complaint=20with=20the=20airline,=20talk=20to=20the=20NFB,=20or=20both.=20=
=20However,=20
it's=20a=20security=20measure=20to=20X-ray=20canes,=20and=20being=20the=20i=
ndependent=20
travelers=20we=20are,=20I=20don't=20think=20we=20should=20have=20a=20proble=
m=20with=20
that.=20=20Before=20I=20was=20independent=20enough=20to=20do=20this=20on=20=
my=20own,=20I=20
would=20ask=20the=20TSA=20agent=20to=20do=20sighted=20guide=20with=20me=20(=
after=20
showing=20them=20the=20correct=20technique,=20of=20course)=20to=20the=20oth=
er=20side=20
of=20the=20little=20X-ray=20area,=20then=20hand=20the=20cane=20out=20to=20m=
e=20when=20they=20
were=20done=20scanning=20it.=20=20Now,=20they=20take=20the=20cane,=20and=20=
I=20
independently=20go=20to=20the=20other=20side=20of=20the=20little=20area,=20=
find=20the=20
tile,=20and=20wait=20for=20the=20cane.=20=20Just=20my=20two=20cents!

Chris

=20Chris=20Nusbaum

"The=20real=20problem=20of=20blindness=20is=20not=20the=20loss=20of=20eyesi=
ght.=20=20The=20
real=20problem=20is=20the=20misunderstanding=20and=20lack=20of=20education=
=20that=20
exists.=20=20If=20a=20blind=20person=20has=20the=20proper=20training=20and=
=20
opportunity,=20blindness=20can=20be=20reduced=20to=20a=20mere=20physical=20=

nuisance."=20--=20Kenneth=20Jernigan=20(President=20of=20the=20National=20
Federation=20of=20the=20Blind,=201968-1986.)

=20=20Visit=20the=20I=20C.A.N.=20=20Foundation=20online=20at:=20
www.icanfoundation.info=20for
information=20on=20our=20foundation=20and=20how=20it=20helps=20blind=20and=
=20visually
impaired=20children=20in=20MD=20say=20"I=20can!"

Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Ashley=20Bramlett"=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2012=20Sep=202011=2016:01:14=20-0400
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

Beth,
What=20nationality=20are=20you?=20So=20you=20follow=20Islam.=20=20I=20know=
=20several=20
Muslims=20and=20if
we=20stay=20away=20from=20religion,=20we=20are=20okay.
Why=20did=20the=20airport=20people=20take=20your=20cane?=20I=20really=20don=
't=20know=20
the=20outrage
expressed=20by=20you=20and=20some=20people.=20=20When=20I=20flew,=20my=20ca=
ne=20was=20taken=20
to=20be
x-rayed=20and=20then=20returned.=20=20Once=20in=20the=20plane,=20I=20folded=
=20it=20and=20
nothing=20was
said=20but=20I=20flew=20with=20a=20sighted=20person.=20=20Still=20I=20have=
=20not=20heard=20
the=20problems
from=20other=20blind=20flyers=20=20expressed=20here.=20=20Security=20is=20a=
=20pain,=20but=20
it=E2=80=99s=20a=20pain
for=20anyone.=20=20I'm=20with=20you=20though;=20I=20will=20avoid=20flying=20=
if=20at=20all=20
possible.=20=20As
Peter=20said,=20you=20could=20also=20charter=20a=20plane=20and=20prevent=20=
the=20
intrusive
security=20screening.

Ashley

-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Beth
Sent:=20Monday,=20September=2012,=202011=203:29=20PM
To:=20nimerjaber1 at gmail.com=20;=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20
Students=20mailing
list
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

Btw,=20I=20converted=20to=20Ilam=20last=20year.=20=20I=20don't=20appreciate=
=20anybody
trying=20to=20group=20all=20Terrorists=20into=20the=20Muslim=20category.=20=
=20Barack
Obama=20said=20once=20that=20Al=20Qaida=20slaughtered=20millions=20of=20Mus=
lims.=20=20I
have=20a=20friend=20whose=20Musloim=20son=20in=20the=20millitary=20went=20t=
o=20Iraq=20god
knows=20how=20many=20times.
My=20cousin=20was=20a=20vet,=20and=20my=20roommate=20retired=20before=20she=
=20did=20any
tours=20of=20duty.=20=20I'm=20surrounded=20by=20vets,=20but=20there=20are=20=
Muslim
veterans,=20and=20no,=20as=20far=20as=20I=20know,=20I'm=20not=20flying=20an=
ymore.
The=20reason=20is=20that=20I=20don't=20want=20my=20cane=20taken=20away,=20a=
nd=20I=20don't
want=20to=20be=20hauled=20in=20a=20wheelchair=20into=20the=20plane.=20=20I=
=20don't=20want
my=20hijab=20removed=20because=20I=20am=20not=20going=20to=20let=20men=20ge=
t=20their
boots=20wet=20over=20my=20hair.=20=20Thanks.
Beth

-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Nimer=20M.=20=20Jaber,=20IC=C2=B3=20<nimerjaber1 at gmail.com
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2012=20Sep=202011=2012:30:27=20-0500
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

You=20people=20don't=20understand,=20do=20you?=20I=20don't=20agree=20with=20=
blind
people's
canes=20being=20taken=20away=20and=20all=20the=20rest=20of=20the=20stuff=20=
that's=20been
happening,=20although=20I=20have=20to=20say=20that=20for=20about=20five=20y=
ears=20now=20I
have
had=20no=20problems=20at=20all=20traveling,=20and=20I=20do=20it=20pretty=20=
often.=20=20I
know
there=20are=20issues.=20=20But=20what=20you=20people=20don't=20understand=20=
is,=20it's
the
difference=20between=20having=20the=20right=20to=20be=20independent=20and=20=
travel
with
a=20cane=20and=20not=20having=20the=20right=20at=20all.=20=20If=20we=20left=
=20our=20nation
vulnerable=20to=20attack,=20some=20group=20(whether=20it=20be=20Muslims=20o=
r=20some
other
group=20in=20the=20future)=20who=20are=20hell-bent=20on=20the=20US'=20distr=
uction
will
attack=20and=20if=20we're=20not=20ready,=20everything=20the=20United=20Stat=
es=20has
done,
everything=20that=20over=20200=20years=20of=20soldiers=20fought=20for=20wil=
l=20just
be
taken=20away.=20=20I'm=20shocked=20too=20as=20all=20this=20anti-american=20=
rhetoric
but=20I
can't=20be=20too=20surprised=20with=20a=20liberal=20media=20and=20liberal=20=
college
professors=20...=20=20Either=20way,=20everyone's=20got=20their=20own=20opin=
ions=20...

Thanks.

On=2012.09.2011,=20Peter=20Donahue=20<pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>=20wrote:
Hello=20Joshua=20and=20everyone,

Yes.=20=20Keep=20in=20mind=20however=20that=20these=20are=20not=20scheduled=
=20flights
like=20the
airlines.=20=20As=20air=20charter=20clients=20have=20needs=20to=20fly=20to=
=20your=20area
that=20will
determine=20the=20availability=20of=20flights=20to=20where=20you=20need=20t=
o=20go
being=20offered.

Peter=20Donahue

-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Joshua=20Lester"=20<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent:=20Monday,=20September=2012,=202011=2010:39=20AM
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

Do=20they=20have=20services,=20in=20Arkansas?
Thanks,=20Joshua

On=209/12/11,=20Peter=20Donahue=20<pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>=20wrote:
Hello=20Vejas=20and=20everyone,

Private=20air=20travel=20holds=20another=20alternative=20to=20using=20the
airlines.=20=20There
are=20a=20number=20of=20private=20air=20charter=20services=20that=20sell=20=
you=20seats
on
chartered=20aircraft=20at=20about=20the=20cost=20of=20an=20airline=20ticket=
.=20=20As
the
situation
with=20the=20airlines=20degrades=20even=20further=20these=20services=20are
expected=20to
grow
changing=20how=20we=20fly=20in=20the=20future.=20=20From=20having=20talked=
=20to=20a
number=20of
private
air=20charter=20companies=20and=20air=20charter=20brokers=20it's=20very=20p=
ossible
that=20we
could=20find=20ourselves=20receiving=20better=20treatment=20by=20these
services=20compared
to=20that=20we've=20received=20from=20the=20airlines=20over=20the=20years.
=20=20=20=20=20For=20starters=20the=20vast=20majority=20of=20air=20charter=
=20company=20=20Web
Sites=20=20are
very=20accessible=20with=20screen=20reading=20software=20and=20are=20easy=20=
to
navigate.=20=20A
recent=20entry=20in=20to=20the=20world=20of=20per-seat=20private=20air=20tr=
avel
ventures=20is:
http://www.socialflights.com

=20=20=20=20=20While=20you=20need=20to=20get=20by=20a=20captcha=20in=20the=
=20signup=20process
their=20Web
site
is=20very=20accessible=20and=20contains=20lots=20of=20information=20about=20=
this
company.
It's
heavily=20integrated=20with=20Facebook=20so=20you'll=20need=20to=20have=20a=

Facebook=20Account
and=20will=20need=20to=20be=20logged=20in=20before=20registering=20and=20lo=
gging=20in
to=20Social
Flights.=20=20Check=20them=20out=20and=20let's=20take=20air=20travel=20by=20=
the=20blind
to=20a=20higher
level!

Peter=20Donahue

-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"vejas"=20<brlsurfer at gmail.com
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent:=20Monday,=20September=2012,=202011=209:01=20AM
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

Although=20independence=20is=20important,=20I=20still=20think=20our=20safet=
y=20is
more=20important.=20=20Hopefully=20over=20the=20years,=20the=20airport=20pe=
ople
will=20eventually=20understand=20our=20situation=20and=20not=20take=20away=
=20our
canes.=20=20And=20we=20can=20do=20something=20about=20it=20being=20the=20co=
nfident=20NFB
travelers=20we=20are.
Vejas

=20=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Beth=20<thebluesisloose at gmail.com
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing
list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2012=20Sep=202011=2005:44:39=20-0600
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

I=20understand=20that=20safety=20and=20security=20are=20an=20issue.=20=20Bu=
t=20after
9/11,=20airlines=20I=20think=20have=20been=20treating=20uss=20mercilessly=20=
bad.
With=20no=20mercy,=20airlines=20have=20taken=20canes=20away,=20dug=20into=20=
babies'
bottles,=20taken=20diapers=20off,=20and=20so=20many=20other=20violations=20=
of
people's=20privacy.=20=20I=20went=20to=20Florida=20with=20my=20hijab=20on=20=
and=20I=20had
to=20have=20somebody=20pat=20me=20down.=20=20No=20thrills,=20but=20still.=20=
=20I=20don't
particularly=20like=20the=20security=20checkpoints=20because=20of=20how=20t=
hey
might=20think=20of=20a=20blind=20person,=20somebody=20who=20is=20not=20WASP=
=20(white
Anlgo=20Saxon=20Protestant.)=20=20After=209/11,=20some=20things=20weren't=20=
so
good,=20such=20as=20thhe=20airline=20security.=20=20Even=20after=20that=20s=
tupid=20guy
put=20a=20bomb=20in=20his=20underwear,=20there=20were=20more=20security=20i=
ssues.
I'm=20probably=20not=20flying=20back=20to=20Florida=20after=20what=20my=20p=
arents
did,=20which=20was=20get=20a=20security=20pass=20without=20boarding=20a=20p=
lane,=20to
make=20sure=20I=20got=20home.=20=20The=20airlines=20have=20always=20been=20=
a=20source=20of
contempt=20for=20all=20of=20us,=20so=20let's=20think=20not=20only=20about=20=
the=20people
who=20died,=20but=20the=20repercussions=20that=20followed.
Beth

=20=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Ashley=20Bramlett"=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Sun,=2011=20Sep=202011=2015:54:50=20-0400
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

Thanks=20Josh,
I=20think=20we=20should=20take=20time=20to=20reflect=20on=20the=20tragedy=20=
and=20also
be
active.
Vote=20for=20whom=20you=20believe=20will
make=20our=20country=20safe=20and=20secure.=20=20You're=20right=20that=20sa=
fety=20and
security=20is
an=20issue=20as=20we=20students=20head=20back=20to=20campus.=20=20Actually,=
=20I'm=20not
a
student
this=20semester,=20but=20will=20go=20back=20for=20continuing=20education=20=
next
semester=20at
nova,=20community=20college.

I'd=20suggest=20you=20get=20aquainted=20with=20your=20school's=20safety/pol=
ice
office=20if=20you
haven't=20already;=20know=20where=20it=20is,=20know=20what=20their=20number=
=20is,
and
meet=20an=20officer=20or=20two.=20=20Some=20schools=20like=20mine,=20marymo=
unt
university,=20just
had=20security=20officers.
Know=20how=20to=20reach=20them=20as=20well.=20=20If=20you=20feel=20unsafe,=
=20walk=20with
friends=20back
to=20your=20dorm=20or=20call=20a=20security=20escort.=20=20Many=20schools=20=
offer=20such
a
service.
At=20least=20at=20MU,=20after=2012=20midnight,=20you=20had=20to=20show=20an=
=20ID=20to
enter
the=20dorm;
this=20is=20a=20good=20thing.=20=20And=20also=20lock=20your=20dorm=20room,=
=20especially
at
night.
If=20there=20is=20a=20threat=20or=20natural=20disaster,=20I'd=20leave=20fas=
t.=20=20Go=20to
a
friend's
home,=20family=20if=20they're=20in=20the=20area,=20or=20a=20hotel.=20=20Jus=
t=20go
somewhere=20safe.
Safety=20is=20a=20big=20priority.

Okay,=20that's=20my=20tips=20for=20now.

-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Joshua=20Lester
Sent:=20Sunday,=20September=2011,=202011=203:33=20PM
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20reflecting=20on=20the=20attacks

Ashley:
Great=20post!
This=20has=20everything=20to=20do,=20with=20this=20list,=20because=20many=20=
blind
students,=20are=20probably=20heading=20back=20to=20college,=20after=20being=
=20on
vacation.
This=20security=20issue=20is=20important.
May=20God=20bless=20America.
Blessings,=20Joshua

On=209/11/11,=20Ashley=20Bramlett=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net>=20wrote:
=20=20Hi=20all,
=20=20We=20all=20have=20varying=20views=20on=20how=20to=20address=20safety=
=20and
security.
But
=20=20somehow,=20some=20way,=20those=20terrorists=20got=20through.
=20=20We=20were=20attacked=20a=20decade=20ago.
=20=20I=20was=20finishing=20a=20class=20in=20high=20school=20when=20I=20hea=
rd=20the=20news.
School=20was
=20=20closed=20the=20next=20day.=20=20Our=20school=20had=20an=20assembly=20=
where=20the
choir,
band,=20and
=20=20other=20groups=20performed=20to=20commemorate=209/11.
=20=20I=20hope=20that=20we=20all=20take=20a=20moment=20to=20reflect=20on=20=
it.=20=20I=20will=20be
praying=20for
=20=20our
=20=20country=20and=20everyone?=20safety/security=20on=20the=20anniversary.=

=20=20I?=20a=20Christian=20so=20I=20have=20faith=20that=20we=20will=20grow=
=20stronger=20as=20a
nation.=20=20If
=20=20you=20had=20a=20loved=20one=20impacted=20by=20the=20attack,=20I=20hop=
e=20you
recovered
somewhat
=20=20from=20the=20tragedy.

=20=20Some=20pray=20in=20churches,=20others=20are=20going=20to=20public=20m=
emorials
today=20and
=20=20still
=20=20others=20will=20do=20volunteer=20service=20to=20serve=20the=20country=
.=20=20If=20you
are=20doing
=20=20anything=20different=20or=20special,=20I=20hope=20it=20goes=20well=20=
for=20you.

=20=20Take=20care.
=20=20Ashley
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