[nabs-l] JAWS and operating systems

Mon Sep 26 20:01:52 UTC 2011

Hi=20Ashley,

The=20hardest=20part=20for=20me=20with=20operating=20systems=20is=20at=20sc=
hool,=20I=20
have=20to=20use=20XP,=20because=20my=20school=20system=20hasn't=20"approved=
"=20
Windows=207=20yet.=20=20I=20don't=20know=20if=20they=20ever=20will.=20=20If=
=20they=20do,=20
probably=20Windows=208=20will=20be=20coming=20out=20soon=20after=20they=20a=
pprove=207,=20
so=20it'll=20be=20useless.

=20Chris=20Nusbaum

"The=20real=20problem=20of=20blindness=20is=20not=20the=20loss=20of=20eyesi=
ght.=20=20The=20
real=20problem=20is=20the=20misunderstanding=20and=20lack=20of=20education=
=20that=20
exists.=20=20If=20a=20blind=20person=20has=20the=20proper=20training=20and=
=20
opportunity,=20blindness=20can=20be=20reduced=20to=20a=20mere=20physical=20=

nuisance."=20--=20Kenneth=20Jernigan=20(President=20of=20the=20National=20
Federation=20of=20the=20Blind,=201968-1986.)

=20=20Visit=20the=20I=20C.A.N.=20=20Foundation=20online=20at:=20
www.icanfoundation.info=20for
information=20on=20our=20foundation=20and=20how=20it=20helps=20blind=20and=
=20visually
impaired=20children=20in=20MD=20say=20"I=20can!"

Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Ashley=20Bramlett"=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Sun,=2025=20Sep=202011=2018:17:17=20-0400
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20JAWS=20and=20operating=20systems

Bridgit,
I=20feel=20your=20frustration!
You=20said
If=20you're=20like
me,=20you=20hate=20to=20learn=20a=20new=20way=20just=20after=20learning=20t=
o=20adapt=20to=20
another
system=20or=20program.=20=20And=20this=20says=20nothing=20about=20the=20fin=
ancial=20
side.=20=20I
hear=20similar=20complaints=20from=20both=20blind=20and=20sighted=20consume=
rs=20
using
computers.=20=20"

Yes.=20=20My=20father=20hates=20the=20new=20microsoft=20ribons=20in=202007=
=20and=20we=20
wish=20they=20would
go=20back=20to=20those=20menus!
I=20have=20=20windows=207=20and=20the=20latest=20internet=20explore=20and=20=
microsoft=20
suite.
No=20IE=20isn't=20much=20of=20an=20issue.=20=20I=20just=20use=20the=20same=
=20commands=20I=20
knew=20from=20prior
jaws=20releases=20in=20IE.
I=20have=20jaws=2012=20and=20since=20I=20have=20a=20maintenance=20agreement=
,=20I=20get=20
jaws=2013=20when
it=20comes=20out.

I=20liked=20xp=20better=20though.=20=20XP=20was=20more=20strictly=20menus=20=
without=20
menu=20levels
called=20tree=20views.=20=20When=20you=20open=20up=20a=20menu,=20you=20have=
=20to=20open=20up=20
the
subfolders=20to=20display=20all=20the=20=20content.=20=20It=E2=80=99s=20a=20=
split=20screen=20
and=20that=20is
frustrating=20since=20I=20cannot=20see=20both=20sides=20of=20the=20screen=20=
as=20a=20
sighted=20person
would.

No=20I=20say=20do=20not=20upgrade!=20Wait=20til=20windows=208=20and=20upgra=
de=20then=20when=20
you=20have
to,=20like=20when=20your=20computer=20crashes.
I=20know=20what=20you=20mean=20about=20cost.=20=20I=20use=20old=20technolog=
y=20such=20as=20my=20
embosser
and=20duxbury=20because=20I=20don't=20have=20money=20to=20buy=20new.

And=20I=20thought=20we'd=20have=20windows7=20for=20a=20while!=20Gosh!=20Thi=
s=20system=20
is=20less=20than
a=20year=20old=20and=20will=20be=20obsolete=20soon!
Ashley

-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Bridgit=20Pollpeter
Sent:=20Sunday,=20September=2025,=202011=205:48=20PM
To:=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20JAWS=20and=20operating=20systems

I=20think=20one=20of=20the=20biggest=20issues=20here=20is=20the=20rate=20at=
=20which=20
programs=20are
accelerating.=20=20In=20the=20last=20few=20years,=20computers=20and=20compu=
ter=20
systems=20have
changed=20and=20grown=20much=20quicker=20than=20in=20the=20past.=20=20The=20=
technology=20
boom=20has
gone=20into=20warp=20drive,=20and=20everyone=20is=20trying=20to=20catch=20u=
p.=20=20If=20
you're=20like
me,=20you=20hate=20to=20learn=20a=20new=20way=20just=20after=20learning=20t=
o=20adapt=20to=20
another
system=20or=20program.=20=20And=20this=20says=20nothing=20about=20the=20fin=
ancial=20
side.=20=20I
hear=20similar=20complaints=20from=20both=20blind=20and=20sighted=20consume=
rs=20
using
computers.=20=20The=20average=20person=20doesn't=20view=20these=20changes=20=
with=20
excitement
and=20joy;=20all=20we=20know=20is=20that=20a=20change=20is=20occurring,=20a=
nd=20we're=20
going=20to
have=20to=20make=20yet=20another=20adjustment.

When=20I=20recently=20upgraded=20to=20JAWS=2012,=20I=20was=20told=20to=20no=
t=20upgrade=20to=20
I=20E=209
as=20it=20wasn't=20very=20compatible.=20=20Whether=20running=20XP=20or=20W=
=207,=20I=20E=209=20
wouldn't
work=20as=20well.=20=20However,=20it=20sounds=20like=20those=20of=20you=20r=
unning=20W=207=20
aren't
experiencing=20this=20issue.

We=20have=20four=20computers=20at=20home:=20one=20desktop,=20two=20laptops=
=20and=20one=20
netbook
laptop.=20=20The=20desktop,=20which=20is=20going=20on=20six-years-old=20now=
,=20=20and=20
my
netbook,=20which=20is=20two-years-old=20now,=20run=20on=20XP=20with=20JAWS=
=2012.=20=20One=20
of=20the
laptops=20is=20four=20or=20five-years-old=20now,=20running=20on=20Vista=20a=
nd=20the=20
other
laptop=20is=20brand=20new=20running=20on=20Windows=207.=20=20The=20desktop=
=20needs=20to=20
be
replaced,=20but=20I=20wonder=20if=20updating=20to=20Windows=207=20on=20any=
=20of=20the=203=20
not
currently=20running=20it=20is=20worth=20while=20if=20Windows=208=20is=20sup=
pose=20to=20be
releasing=20soon.=20=20Other=20than=20the=20brand=20new=20laptop,=20all=20t=
he=20other=20
computers
are=20still=20using=20MS=20Office=202002,=20which=20needs=20to=20be=20updat=
ed=20as=20
well.=20=20I
guess=20my=20question=20is=20what=20is=20compatible=20with=20what?=20I=20kn=
ow=20MS=20will=20
soon
drop=20support=20for=20XP,=20and=20most=20computers=20purchased=20now=20wil=
l=20run=20W=20
7
automatically,=20but=20is=20it=20worth=20updating=20anything=20at=20this=20=
point?

I=20am=20not=20computer=20savvy=20in=20any=20sense=20of=20the=20word.=20=20=
In=20fact,=20I've=20
learned
how=20to=20use=20a=20computer=20better=20since=20being=20blind=20than=20I=20=
ever=20did=20
sighted,
so=20all=20these=20changes=20and=20new=20devices=20just=20make=20my=20head=
=20swirl.

One=20of=20the=20reasons=20we're=20still=20running=20old=20programs=20is=20=
because=20of=20
the
cost.=20=20Is=20it=20worth=20investing=20in=20anything=20new=20at=20this=20=
point=20if=20it=20
will
just=20change=20quickly=20again?=20And=20how=20do=20we=20ensure=20what=20we=
=20upgrade=20
to=20will
in=20deed=20be=20compatible=20with=20other=20existing=20
programs/systems/software
especially=20JAWS?=20For=20me,=20it's=20a=20bit=20overwhelming,=20and=20hon=
estly,=20
if=20I
didn't=20need=20to=20rely=20on=20computers=20and=20technology=20for=20so=20=
much,=20I'd=20
say=20F
it=20to=20most=20of=20this=20and=20live=20like=20some=20little,=20old=20her=
mit.=20=20LOL

Sincerely,
Bridgit=20Kuenning-Pollpeter
Read=20my=20blog=20at:
http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/

"History=20is=20not=20what=20happened;=20history=20is=20what=20was=20writte=
n=20down."
The=20Expected=20One-=20Kathleen=20McGowan

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