[nabs-l] BANA still considering abolishing the Nemeth braillecode

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Sun Sep 11 18:14:48 UTC 2011


Mr Jacobson:
Please E-mail me off list.
I'm interested in his new code.
Thanks, Joshua

On 9/11/11, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Let me respectfully suggest that we turn down the rhetoric on this.  First,
> one doesn't just complain to the chair of the
> resolutions committee and expect her to write a resolution, and second,
> resolutions won't be considered until next
> summer so there is time to sort all this out.  I've been trying to follow
> the BANA deliberations on some of this and things
> just are not as simple as it might seem on the surface.  Whether we like it
> or not, print has been and is changing very
> quickly, and we all need to figure out how to find a way for braille to keep
> up.  Something has to happen to let us
> expand the characters that are represented in braille, and how to seemlessly
> weave in the kinds of technical writing
> that is more a part of everyday print now than was the case not long ago.
> Whether a separate code for mathematics
> needs to be maintained and whether it should remain the Nemeth code is still
> an open question, as far as I know.
> Some of you apparently are not aware of the fact that Dr. Nemeth even sees
> limitations in the current code and has
> created a braille code called NUBS which would also be a significant change
> from the current code.
>
> I do not ask that people support the elimination of Nemeth code as that
> isn't really the issue by itself, but it is necessary
> for all of us to be as informed as we can be on this subject.  Let's just
> keep our cool a little.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:31:35 -0400, Chris Nusbaum wrote:
>
>>I think you will.  She's good that way.  If you don't let me
>>know.
>
>> Chris Nusbaum
>
>>"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
>>real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
>>exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
>>opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
>>nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National
>>Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)
>
>>  Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at:
>>www.icanfoundation.info for
>>information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
>>impaired children in MD say "I can!"
>
>
>>Sent from my BrailleNote
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>Date sent: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:06:57 -0500
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] BANA still considering abolishing the
>>Nemeth braillecode
>
>>Carly, it's shameful.
>>I E-mailed the chairman of the resolutions committee.
>>Hopefully, I'll hear something.
>>Blessings, Joshua
>
>>On 9/10/11, Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Hi, Joshua,
>
>> I'm with ya, brother!
>
>> The example of that BANA attempt att braille I saw, struck me as
>> being totally watered down and very much removed from the code I
>>know
>> and love so very deeply.  In fact, my Not being able to find
>>meaning
>> within the sensual, bumps does not make me love braille any
>>less.
>> 2011, you wrote:
>>I'm all for a unified Braille code.
>>That code, is the Nemeth Code!
>>Leave it alone!
>>Blessings, Joshua
>
>>On 9/10/11, Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home
>><ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>> [Blindmath] BANA still considering abolishing the Nemeth braille
>>code
>> Susan Jolly easjolly at ix.netcom.com
>> Fri Sep 9 17:10:37 CDT 2011
>
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>> I have just recieved my copy of the Summer 2011 Bulletin of the
>>National
>> Braille Association (NBA) which is the professional organization
>> providing
>> continuing education to both paid and volunteer braille
>> transcribers here in
>> the United States.  The President's Message states, "At some
>>point in the
>> near future, the braille powers-that-be will make a decision
>> about a unified
>> braille code for the English-speaking worlds--a code that will
>>combine
>> literary and technical transcriptions under one set of rules and
>> constructions."
>
>> Elsewhere in this issue of the Bulletin, the NBA representive to
>> the Braille
>> Authority of North America (BANA) writes that the BANA
>>"Education and
>> Outreach committee is still reviewing the possibility of a
>>universal
>> code."
>> Note that the next meeting of BANA will be held November 3-6,
>>2011 and
>> will
>> be hosted in the Baltimore area by the NFB.
>
>> If you believe as I do that the BAUK-like representation of
>>maths in the
>> current proposals for a unified code are significantly inferior
>>to the
>> Nemeth code's representation of mathematics, you might want to
>>take
>> action
>> now.
>
>> Wouldn't it be ironic if the US were to abolish the use of the
>>Nemeth
>> code
>> just as it is being widely adopted in countries such as India
>>and
>> Indonesia
>> which have larger populations of braille users?
>
>> Sincerely,
>> SusanJ
>
>
>
>
>>
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