[nabs-l] BANA still considering abolishing the Nemeth braille code

Sun Sep 11 19:39:31 UTC 2011

Hi Ashley,

They're probably going to hear it when they're older. I'm not
defending Carly in her use of profanity, although I agree with the
premice of her email. In fact, I would say that we should be carefull
about use of profanity because it's an archived list. All I'm saying
is that Josh doesn't have to worry about me being exposed to it, as I
already have.

Chris

On 9/11/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Carley,
> With respect, we can discuss this civilly without profanity. Also, he is
> right. There are youth on this list. Would you want your child subscribed to
> a list where bad language is permitted? I would not. Youth do hear it at
> school and other places, but they do not need to hear it on nabs-l.
> This list is not a place to pick up bad language, and us older students
> should set an example.
>
> That said, I think their idea is a bad one. That said, I want to know the
> new system and what exactly they are proposing.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carly
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 1:48 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] BANA still considering abolishing the Nemeth braille
> code
>
>
>
> Perhaps, our resident 8th grader is not alone in his immaturity? Did
> you not catch the substance of my letter, or were you too distracted
> by a word which, can be if it makes you and resident 8th grader more
> comfortable, expressed in terms of so much  bovine scatology? Do
> these terms please you? I assert You are naive to believe that
> resident 8th grader is not routeenly exposed to some language?
> Besides, if we can stop fixating on one little summary of what the
> BANA is seeking to commit upon our beloved braille code, we might be
> able to effect, some change!
> Jesus Joshua grow up! :33 PM 9/10/2011, you wrote:
>>Wow!
>>The cursing is back!
>>We have an eighth grader, on this list.
>>Please keep the profanety down.
>>Thanks, Joshua
>>
>>On 9/10/11, Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi, Joshua,
>> >
>> > That sounds perhaps a worthwhile gesture, in the event of there not
>> > being  significant capital, behind this braille unification
>> > bullshit... We might  accept a fact that we might be, nice and
>> > outnumbered, in this. . The locals seem to really dig mediocrity. I
>> > guess you can just refuse to learn it, that's what I plan to do. 06
>> > PM 9/10/2011, Joshua Lester wrote:
>> >>Carly, it's shameful.
>> >>I E-mailed the chairman of the resolutions committee.
>> >>Hopefully, I'll hear something.
>> >>Blessings, Joshua
>> >>
>> >>On 9/10/11, Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi, Joshua,
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm with ya, brother!
>> >> >
>> >> > The example of that BANA attempt att braille I saw, struck me as
>> >> > being totally watered down and very much removed from the code I know
>> >> > and love so very deeply. In fact, my Not being able to find meaning
>> >> > within the sensual, bumps does not make me love braille any less.
>> >> > 2011, you wrote:
>> >> >>I'm all for a unified Braille code.
>> >> >>That code, is the Nemeth Code!
>> >> >>Leave it alone!
>> >> >>Blessings, Joshua
>> >> >>
>> >> >>On 9/10/11, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > [Blindmath] BANA still considering abolishing the Nemeth braille
>> >> >> > code
>> >> >> > Susan Jolly easjolly at ix.netcom.com
>> >> >> > Fri Sep 9 17:10:37 CDT 2011
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >   a.. Previous message: [Blindmath] SPSS accessibility
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>> >> >> the Nemeth
>> >> >> > braillecode
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>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have just recieved my copy of the Summer 2011 Bulletin of the
>> >> >> > National
>> >> >> > Braille Association (NBA) which is the professional organization
>> >> >> > providing
>> >> >> > continuing education to both paid and volunteer braille
>> >> >> transcribers here in
>> >> >> > the United States. The President's Message states, "At some point
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > near future, the braille powers-that-be will make a decision
>> >> >> about a unified
>> >> >> > braille code for the English-speaking worlds--a code that will
>> >> >> > combine
>> >> >> > literary and technical transcriptions under one set of rules and
>> >> >> > constructions."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Elsewhere in this issue of the Bulletin, the NBA representive to
>> >> >> the Braille
>> >> >> > Authority of North America (BANA) writes that the BANA "Education
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > Outreach committee is still reviewing the possibility of a
>> >> >> > universal
>> >> >> > code."
>> >> >> > Note that the next meeting of BANA will be held November 3-6, 2011
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > will
>> >> >> > be hosted in the Baltimore area by the NFB.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If you believe as I do that the BAUK-like representation of maths
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > current proposals for a unified code are significantly inferior to
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > Nemeth code's representation of mathematics, you might want to
>> >> >> > take
>> >> >> > action
>> >> >> > now.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Wouldn't it be ironic if the US were to abolish the use of the
>> >> >> > Nemeth
>> >> >> > code
>> >> >> > just as it is being widely adopted in countries such as India and
>> >> >> > Indonesia
>> >> >> > which have larger populations of braille users?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Sincerely,
>> >> >> > SusanJ
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
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>> >> >> >
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