[nabs-l] BANA still considering abolishing the Nemethbraillecode

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Sun Sep 11 19:39:29 UTC 2011


Chris:
Do you know anything about Doctor Nemeth's new code?
I'm interested in it.
Thanks, Joshua

On 9/11/11, chris nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ashley and everyone,
>
> For anybody interested in this issue, you may want to join the
> BANA-Announce list. To do this, send a blank email with the subject
> Subscribe to bana-announce at brailleauthority.org. Dave Andrews and I
> are subscribed to that list, so when there's new rules or something
> from BANA, one of us usually posts it to the lists. Usually I leave
> that up to Dave, since I'm only limited to the lists I'm on, whereas
> he can post it to the NFB-Net-Members list and it will go to all
> members of all NFB lists. Speaking of Dave, as the moderator, what do
> you think of this discussion? I'd love to hear from you, since you are
> the owner and moderator! I agree with you on most of your comments,
> Steve. I'd just say that I think any Federationist has the right to
> talk to Sharon and express their opinion that a resolution should be
> written. Yes, the resolution won't be considered until next summer,
> but I do think that if a member suggested something to her about a
> resolution, Sharon would bring it up to the resolutions comittee.
>
> Chris
>
> On 9/11/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> We can discuss without profanity and yes there are youth on here who
>> should
>> not pick up bad language from this
>> list. Chris, you may be fine with it and not offended, but I bet many
>> kid's
>> parents would be and would take their kids off quickly if they knew they
>> were learning profanity from a list.
>>
>> Now  to the issue. Has anyone researched Bana's position or seen a press
>> release? What do they wish to replace it with?
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 1:31 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] BANA still considering abolishing the
>> Nemethbraillecode
>>
>> Hi Joshua,
>>
>> I think you're talking about me, and while I think we should
>> limit the profanity because it's an archived list and that might
>> discourage people from joining the list, I don't need protection
>> from profanity anymore...  Lord knows I hear it from my parents!
>> * Smiles!
>>
>> Chris Nusbaum
>>
>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
>> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
>> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
>> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
>> nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National
>> Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)
>>
>>   Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at:
>> www.icanfoundation.info for
>> information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
>> impaired children in MD say "I can!"
>>
>>
>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:33:49 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] BANA still considering abolishing the
>> Nemeth braillecode
>>
>> Wow!
>> The cursing is back!
>> We have an eighth grader, on this list.
>> Please keep the profanety down.
>> Thanks, Joshua
>>
>> On 9/10/11, Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi, Joshua,
>>
>> That sounds perhaps a worthwhile gesture, in the event of there
>> not
>> being  significant capital, behind this braille unification
>> bullshit...  We might  accept a fact that we might be, nice and
>> outnumbered, in this. .  The locals seem to really dig
>> mediocrity.  I
>> guess you can just refuse to learn it, that's what I plan to do.
>> 06
>> PM 9/10/2011, Joshua Lester wrote:
>> Carly, it's shameful.
>> I E-mailed the chairman of the resolutions committee.
>> Hopefully, I'll hear something.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 9/10/11, Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi, Joshua,
>>
>> I'm with ya, brother!
>>
>> The example of that BANA attempt att braille I saw, struck me as
>> being totally watered down and very much removed from the code I
>> know
>> and love so very deeply.  In fact, my Not being able to find
>> meaning
>> within the sensual, bumps does not make me love braille any
>> less.
>> 2011, you wrote:
>> I'm all for a unified Braille code.
>> That code, is the Nemeth Code!
>> Leave it alone!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 9/10/11, Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home
>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
>> wrote:
>> [Blindmath] BANA still considering abolishing the Nemeth braille
>> code
>> Susan Jolly easjolly at ix.netcom.com
>> Fri Sep 9 17:10:37 CDT 2011
>>
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>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---------------
>>
>> I have just recieved my copy of the Summer 2011 Bulletin of the
>> National
>> Braille Association (NBA) which is the professional organization
>> providing
>> continuing education to both paid and volunteer braille
>> transcribers here in
>> the United States.  The President's Message states, "At some
>> point in
>> the
>> near future, the braille powers-that-be will make a decision
>> about a unified
>> braille code for the English-speaking worlds--a code that will
>> combine
>> literary and technical transcriptions under one set of rules and
>> constructions."
>>
>> Elsewhere in this issue of the Bulletin, the NBA representive to
>> the Braille
>> Authority of North America (BANA) writes that the BANA
>> "Education and
>> Outreach committee is still reviewing the possibility of a
>> universal
>> code."
>> Note that the next meeting of BANA will be held November 3-6,
>> 2011
>> and
>> will
>> be hosted in the Baltimore area by the NFB.
>>
>> If you believe as I do that the BAUK-like representation of
>> maths in
>> the
>> current proposals for a unified code are significantly inferior
>> to
>> the
>> Nemeth code's representation of mathematics, you might want to
>> take
>> action
>> now.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be ironic if the US were to abolish the use of the
>> Nemeth
>> code
>> just as it is being widely adopted in countries such as India
>> and
>> Indonesia
>> which have larger populations of braille users?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> SusanJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists. If
> a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can
> be reduced to a mere physical nuissence." -- Kenneth Jernigan
>
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> information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
> impaired children in MD say "I can!"
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