[nabs-l] re. 9/11, call to reason
vejas
brlsurfer at gmail.com
Tue Sep 13 02:40:35 UTC 2011
Hi Chris. It's Vejas. Although most of the flights I've been in
I can get my cane OK, there was one time that they set off the
alarm for it. Sometimes they just don't understand. And it's
our job to MAKE them understand. We can do this, as blind
people, by continuing to travel.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
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Date sent: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:48:41 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] re. 9/11, call to reason
Hi Patrick,
I agree. Well, when they X-ray anything, it
slows down the process of moving through the security line, but
it's usually pretty easy to just go across the little X-ray area
and wait for the cane.
Chris
Chris Nusbaum
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opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
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----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com
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Date sent: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:05:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] re. 9/11, call to reason
Ashley,
Well, it really depends upon the place where I am. I was in D.C.
right
after 9/11 and they x-rayed my cane. Same with when I flew last
year.
But sometimes they just fold it, see it's only a cane, and give
it
back to me. I always let them do this, because it's their job to
check
passengers. Why should I be treated any different than any other
person? Although when the cane is x-rayed, it makes moving
through
security difficult. Fortunately, I've always been with people
when
I've flown, so they've been able to help.
Patrick
On 9/12/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
They examine it? How? Do they unfold it and look inside? When I
flew, and I
only went once after 911, they
simply x-rayed it.
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Molloy
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] re. 9/11, call to reason
Angela,
You make a good point about the cane. When I flew SouthWest
down to
Florida last year, I took a folding cane, folded it, and stuck
it in
my backpack which was under the seat. Sure airport security
nowadays
is a pain, but you have to know that going into the thing. I
can't
tell you the number of times my folding cane has been examined
by
security guards. At this point, I just let them do their job.
It's
easier than trying to have a big discussion in front of others.
Patrick
On 9/12/11, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
Right. ONe point. I don't think ll terrorists are Muslim and
not all Muslims are Terrorists. It's like this, one man's
terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Beth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Angela Fowler" <fowlers at syix.com
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
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Date sent: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:26:52 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] re. 9/11, call to reason
Hello folks,
First let me say that, though flight attendants have tried to
take my cane
and put it up, I have only to firmly but politely tell them that
we always
have our canes with us, and demonstrate how easy it is to lay it
along the
side of the plane by the window, no danger nor inconvenience to
anyone. They
never give me any trouble beyond that point.
Second, the issues surrounding 9/11 are controversial at
best, and
arguing about them at this point will do nothing to further our
common cause
which is, need I remind folks, changing what it means to be
blind
for all
blind people. I have seen this discussion degenerate into
liberal
verses
conservative mud slinging, and feel that it has become
anti-productive.
Please folks, let's stop fighting over things we can't at this
point change,
and focus on the things we can.
Angela
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