[nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks

Tue Sep 13 03:18:38 UTC 2011

Hi Nimer,
Good post. And this will probably be the last I'll say.
You included Fox and MSNBC in your points which makes your point more 
nonpartisan.

You're right.
"We should honor their memories by not allowing any individual to
terrorize America or its interests. And we should do it quick before
the terrorists hit again. This nation needs unity, not division. Bill
Orily and Rachel Madow are puppets who spout opinions. It doesn't
matter whom you like, both of them are opinionated and they heir those
opinions to the masses. If you let yourself not think freely and get
dragged in by either side's opinionators, then you deserve every
inconvenience this government could possibly hand you. That's the
problem we have now. People have stopped using their brains and
trusting their instincts and instead relying on msnbc or fox news to
tell them what's going on. "

Yes that is true. We need to use our brains when forming opinions.
We need to think for ourselves and not just unquestionly follow someone who 
spouts opinions. Read several news sources; listen to C-span to hear 
congress firsthand.

I was going to write something like that, but you said it better than me. My 
intent in bringing this up was to find out what you all did personally or 
publicly to remember 9/11. With over 200 subscribers, some of you probably 
lost a loved one in this tragedy.
We should integrate into society and do what other Americans are doing to 
commemerate the anniversary.
I was trying to keep politics out of it.
Whether conservative or liberal, Christian or not, no one wants this tragedy 
again; no one but that is our enemies here and abroad. Anyone who wants to 
kill innocent Americans is our enemy and has no business here.

My brother lost  a friend and I know a blind guy that had to evacuate the 
pentagon. Thankfully he got out safely in the confusion.
I remember that I was in school that morning as a senior when I got the 
news. Many of you were children or teens and perhaps don't feel much of 
anything about the event since you were safe with family.
This 9/11 I prayed more and watched more news and watched the memorial 
concert held here in DC at the kennedy center. I am commited to do some sort 
of service project for 9/11.

I hope most of us can get past the political rhetoric and show our 
patriotism and show love for America.
I mean getting out there and doing normal things is what changing what it 
means to be blind is about.
Some campuses are holding vigils or doing volunteer service projects.
Many religious groups are doing something too. So whatever you did, I hope 
you at least took time to remember the tragedy; something as simple as a 
moment of silence is useful.

Let us go forward peacefully. God bless America.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Nimer M. Jaber, IC³
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:41 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks

Robin, Carly and all,

Ten years ago this country went through an attack of greater magnitude
than anyone can know or comprehend if they weren't directly impacted.
Sure, everyone has to go through airport screenings now and people
feel inconvenienced, but I guaran-damn-tee you that if another attack
on the scale of what happened ten years ago happened today, nobody
would be complaining for a few years until another generation comes
along and starts getting complacent. We should remember those who
died. We should honor their memories by not allowing any individual to
terrorize America or its interests. And we should do it quick before
the terrorists hit again. This nation needs unity, not division. Bill
Orily and Rachel Madow are puppets who spout opinions. It doesn't
matter whom you like, both of them are opinionated and they heir those
opinions to the masses. If you let yourself not think freely and get
dragged in by either side's opinionators, then you deserve every
inconvenience this government could possibly hand you. That's the
problem we have now. People have stopped using their brains and
trusting their instincts and instead relying on msnbc or fox news to
tell them what's going on. Or maybe twitter. If you don't like what
the United States is doing to other nations and you think the US
should be soft because maybe you think that somehow other nations are
just going to back down and forget the US exists, then you've got
another reality coming to you. If you don't like the United States'
actions against its enemies who are hell-bent on our destruction, then
please, leave this country and don't return. If you need transport,
please let me know and I'm sure we can work out an arrangement. Just
surrender your passport to me when you leave, OK? And if you join or
affiliate yourself with a group that wants to destroy the US of A,
then don't be too surprised if you run into some problems if you take
any action against us.

Thanks, and I apologize to the mods of this list for helping continue
this off-topic thread.

On 12.09.2011, Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Ashley,
>
> Is it me, or does an idea persist that for a mere
> fact that those who suffred on 9/11 happened to
> be American in nationality or white in
> race,  somehow make it more of a tragedy? As I
> have said, America murders innocents  in it's
> drone and other atacks (for the uninitiated,
> drone attacks refer to a methodical killing via a
> machine), on a daily freaking basis yet, who can
> cry for those so unfortunate as to not be born American, or white?
> And J. Lester I have absolutely ZERO interest in
> watching a blow hard like Bill O'Reilly even if
> it remains a perscription of your's.
>   OOryleAt 08:04 PM 9/11/2011, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>>Carley, Yes lives are lost due to American
>>military actions. Whether fighting where we do
>>is right or wrong is a political comment so  I
>>will not go there. But two wrongs do not make a
>>right. The fact is we have terrorists out there
>>who want to destroy us even though we did not
>>touch them. Remember 911 was a peaceful calm
>>day. Everyone was at work or school going about
>>their normal business. Then without warning, we
>>had these morning attacks. They attacked us and
>>there was dying for no reason. They killed
>>innocent people. I was watching the news tonight
>>and it highlighted the stories of children,
>>first responders, journalists and survivors. For
>>instance one lady is now going to college, but
>>as a kid, she was impacted. Her mother worked in
>>the pentagon and died that day. She spoke about
>>having to grow up fast and take on more adult
>>responsibilities. She had to put her college
>>degree on hold. Instead she got a job to help
>>she and her family out. She tried to be strong
>>and hide her feelings as she became the woman of
>>the house to replace her mother. Now she goes to
>>school online and is a part time singer. She
>>still misses her mother, but tries to go on with
>>life with her dad and remaining family; after
>>all, her mom would want that. That is just one
>>story-- one girl whose life was changed forever.
>>Many kids lost a parent in the attack; others
>>lost their spouse. Oh, and I know a blind
>>employee who was there and had to evacuate from
>>the pentagon. He felt lost outside a different
>>exit and it was a mob scene. Someone assisted
>>him outside to find the bus stop or something. I
>>was glad he got out safely. So that is something
>>to think about. Of course you are entitled to
>>your opinion. But I hope we can aknowledge the
>>suffering the country went through as well as
>>the innocent people who die every day here and
>>abroad. Ashley -----Original Message----- From:
>>Carly Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:24 PM
>>To: National Association of Blind Students
>>mailing list ; National Association of Blind
>>Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l]
>>reflecting on the attacks Good afternoon, List,
>>Just because Americans were the souls who
>>perished in the blasts, the universe is somehow,
>>expected to change? Folks die daily usually at
>>the hands of American interests. Imagine the
>>scales of life, finding equivalence?At 12:26 PM
>>9/11/2011, Ashley Bramlett wrote: >Hi all, We
>>all have varying views on how to address safety
>>and security. >But somehow, some way, those
>>terrorists got through. We were attacked
>>a >decade ago. I was finishing a class in high
>>school when I heard the news. >School was closed
>>the next day. Our school had an assembly where
>>the choir, >band, and other groups performed to
>>commemorate 9/11. I hope that we all >take a
>>moment to reflect on it. I will be praying for
>>our country and >everyoneÃ¢€™s safety/security
>>on the anniversary. IÃ¢€â¢â‚¬â„¢m a Christian so
>>I >have faith that we will grow stronger as a
>>nation. If you had a loved one >impacted by the
>>attack, I hope you recovered somewhat from the
>>tragedy. >Some pray in churches, others are
>>going to public memorials today and
>>still >others will do volunteer service to serve
>>the country. If you are doing >anything
>>different or special, I hope it goes well for
>>you.  Take care. >Ashley
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