[nabs-l] Need for political listserve?

Tue Sep 20 02:00:50 UTC 2011

Ashley,

Somehow, I don't think that you are understanding what some of us are trying to say here, although you certainly have 
a right to start whatever list you want.  The goal of Faith-Talk was to discuss the problems blind persons have while 
trying to participate in their various churches.  In my opinion, and I am not a moderator, it has wandered from that, but 
that was its original intent.  What you say you want to discuss sounds, on the surface, as though it is well within what 
we do, perhaps more on Blind-Talk.  I thought Dave was pretty clear that it was the discussion of politics in general 
that should be carried out on various general political lists rather than here, not laws specific to blindness.  Now, if you 
want to talk about which party is truly the better one for blind people, that's probably on the edge, because the fact is 
that we have no choice but to work with whichever party is in power.  <smile>  You guys will do whatever you want to 
do, but saying that Dave said that you couldn't discuss politics in terms of laws that affect the blind just isn't accurate.  
We got many of those laws passed.  <smile>  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:03:57 -0400, Ashley Bramlett wrote:

>Bridgit,
>Well, we'll see what happens when and if a list is created. One could make 
>the argument you did for other topics like faith, Yet we have a faith talk 
>list sponsored by NFB. We could say those individuals should just go join 
>general faith lists instead.

>On a different, more relevant note, I agree we need to be active and support 
>our candidates and get out in the community and vote. The problem with 
>accessible voting is that when I go to vote, the poll workers don't know 
>where the accessible talking machine is or how to get it working. I used it 
>a few times when the workers did know what to do though. Other times, I 
>still voted, with assistance though with out that accessible machine. Last 
>few times, what they did at my precinct was either do electronic voting via 
>the touch screen machine or a paper ballot. Paper ballots were marked like a 
>scantron form. Most citizens opted for the paper ballot because it was 
>quicker and they had a record of your vote then. I did that with assistance.

>Also, when volunteering for my chosen congressmen, I wanted to phone 
>citizens like other volunteers. They follow a script and fill out forms. But 
>I don't know if I can do that. There's reading involved. So, I did other 
>tasks that did not involve reading or a computer such as organizing 
>literature  and stuffing envelopes for mass mailings.
>So, any thoughts on how to partake in phoning people, or what is called 
>phone banking, would be good.

>Ashley

>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Bridgit Pollpeter
>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 6:38 PM
>To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Subject: [nabs-l] Need for political listserve?

>I'm not sure why many feel we require a listserve specific to discussing
>blind bills and issues. We already do that on the various lists that
>exist. Important information such as legislation is always disseminated
>among all the list, and members are free to comment on it. We certainly
>have discussed topics relating to blindness and politics on this list in
>the past. I fail to see why we require a separate list for politics when
>what you propose is already being done. And instead of another list
>where subjects are talked to death, perhaps we should get out into our
>communities and actually do something about it.

>Sincerely,
>Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>Read my blog for Live Well Nebraska.com at
>http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>"History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
>The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan

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>Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:31:14 -0500
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>We need a list, where we can discuss political issues, and how they
>relate to us as blind individuals.
>There isn't a listserve, for that.
>There are some for mainstream political discussions, but there isn't
>one, that discusses the issues, and how they relate to us.
>I'm talking about different bills, and laws that are signed, that
>don't represent our interests.
>We need a list to discuss that.
>Blessings, Joshua

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