[nabs-l] new york advice on apartments

Mon Apr 16 20:29:25 UTC 2012

Hi all,
I can't overemphasize the fact that this list's discussions need to be
about blindness. Asking about housing options that are affordable for
someone on SSI is a blindness-related query, I think, but criticizing
someone's decision to live with her boyfriend before marriage or not
is not blindness-related. It's also not conducive to amicable
interaction, especially when religion gets involved.
As to the question at hand, about affordable housing, I'd suggest
looking at New York's Craigslist if you haven't already. New York is
expensive, but you may be able to find sublet or room-sharing options
that are in your price range. You may also qualify for Section 8
low-income housing.
The discussion of whether or not "shacking up" before marriage leads
to higher divorce rates is an interesting but complicated issue. As
stated before, it's not blindness-related, so I urge you guys to take
the debate off this list.
Respectfully,
Arielle Silverman, former listserv chair, NABS board member and NABS president

On 4/16/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
> The fact that he stated was about the divorce rate.
> I agree, that the comment shouldn't have been made here, but the
> reason that he gave is valid.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 4/16/12, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The fact that Bryan said, "You and your boy friend shouldn't be "Shacking
>> up"  or living together before you get married.  That's the advice I'd
>> give
>> you two as a Christian". Is stating that this is a Christian value. That
>> is
>> clearly what the bible says, and is a Christian value. But this is not a
>> fact for a person who does not practice Christian values. None of us have
>> the right to judge others, no matter what religion you are. We might not
>> approve of the actions, but she was asking for information, not judgment.
>>
>> This is a list for students, and as Elizabeth said, there plenty of other
>> places that religious values can be discussed. But this list is not one of
>> them. You can believe what you like, no one is telling you can't. But the
>> fact is that in America we have freedom to think, do, say, what we want.
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:17 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] new york advice on apartments
>>
>> This has nothing to do with religious values.
>> He was just stating facts, (IMO.)
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 4/16/12, Elizabeth <lizmohnke at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Brian,
>>>
>>> I believe the intent of this email list is to discuss issues relevant to
>>> being a blind student. Therefore, I do not believe this is the proper
>> place
>>> to judge others based upon their own religious beliefs or lack thereof.
>>> Others may not believe the same as you, and their beliefs should be
>>> respected. If you wish to debate religious topics, I believe there are
>> other
>>> forums and email lists devoted for this purpose.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Brian Hatgelakas" <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:59 PM
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] new york advice on apartments
>>>
>>>> You and your boy friend shouldn't be "Shacking up"  or living together
>>>> before you get married.  That's the advice I'd give you two as a
>> Christian
>>>>
>>>> guy.  You have a higher percent chance of divorce if you do this.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "keri" <wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:34 PM
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] new york advice on apartments
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> greetings,
>>>>>
>>>>> My bf and I are about to move into an apartment in the New York City
>>>>> area.... We both live on SSI for the time being... We are in need of
>>>>> apartment recommendations that we can aford... We are both college
>>>>> students. We prefer Statin Island but are open to suggestions in the
>> city
>>>>>
>>>>> area.
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> keri
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>>> want
>>>>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes
>>>>> will
>>>>> speak my heart."
>>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>>
>>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>>>>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>>> somewhere to receive it."
>>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>>
>>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>> put
>>>>>
>>>>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
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