[nabs-l] new york advice on apartments

Mon Apr 16 20:46:16 UTC 2012

It is up to the person and if they areild enough to handle what comes with that decision

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On Apr 16, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I can't overemphasize the fact that this list's discussions need to be
> about blindness. Asking about housing options that are affordable for
> someone on SSI is a blindness-related query, I think, but criticizing
> someone's decision to live with her boyfriend before marriage or not
> is not blindness-related. It's also not conducive to amicable
> interaction, especially when religion gets involved.
> As to the question at hand, about affordable housing, I'd suggest
> looking at New York's Craigslist if you haven't already. New York is
> expensive, but you may be able to find sublet or room-sharing options
> that are in your price range. You may also qualify for Section 8
> low-income housing.
> The discussion of whether or not "shacking up" before marriage leads
> to higher divorce rates is an interesting but complicated issue. As
> stated before, it's not blindness-related, so I urge you guys to take
> the debate off this list.
> Respectfully,
> Arielle Silverman, former listserv chair, NABS board member and NABS president
> 
> On 4/16/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>> The fact that he stated was about the divorce rate.
>> I agree, that the comment shouldn't have been made here, but the
>> reason that he gave is valid.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> 
>> On 4/16/12, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The fact that Bryan said, "You and your boy friend shouldn't be "Shacking
>>> up"  or living together before you get married.  That's the advice I'd
>>> give
>>> you two as a Christian". Is stating that this is a Christian value. That
>>> is
>>> clearly what the bible says, and is a Christian value. But this is not a
>>> fact for a person who does not practice Christian values. None of us have
>>> the right to judge others, no matter what religion you are. We might not
>>> approve of the actions, but she was asking for information, not judgment.
>>> 
>>> This is a list for students, and as Elizabeth said, there plenty of other
>>> places that religious values can be discussed. But this list is not one of
>>> them. You can believe what you like, no one is telling you can't. But the
>>> fact is that in America we have freedom to think, do, say, what we want.
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:17 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] new york advice on apartments
>>> 
>>> This has nothing to do with religious values.
>>> He was just stating facts, (IMO.)
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> 
>>> On 4/16/12, Elizabeth <lizmohnke at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Brian,
>>>> 
>>>> I believe the intent of this email list is to discuss issues relevant to
>>>> being a blind student. Therefore, I do not believe this is the proper
>>> place
>>>> to judge others based upon their own religious beliefs or lack thereof.
>>>> Others may not believe the same as you, and their beliefs should be
>>>> respected. If you wish to debate religious topics, I believe there are
>>> other
>>>> forums and email lists devoted for this purpose.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Brian Hatgelakas" <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:59 PM
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] new york advice on apartments
>>>> 
>>>>> You and your boy friend shouldn't be "Shacking up"  or living together
>>>>> before you get married.  That's the advice I'd give you two as a
>>> Christian
>>>>> 
>>>>> guy.  You have a higher percent chance of divorce if you do this.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "keri" <wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] new york advice on apartments
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> greetings,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My bf and I are about to move into an apartment in the New York City
>>>>>> area.... We both live on SSI for the time being... We are in need of
>>>>>> apartment recommendations that we can aford... We are both college
>>>>>> students. We prefer Statin Island but are open to suggestions in the
>>> city
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> area.
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> keri
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> speak my heart."
>>>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth
>>>>>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>>>> somewhere to receive it."
>>>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>>> put
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
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