[nabs-l] Slowness of Notetakers was Re: College

Lanie readtobuild at gmail.com
Fri Apr 20 17:35:49 UTC 2012


I just mean it's slow to write the math.  The BrailleNote itself 
isn't slow.  It just takes a while to write out the math.  If 
anyone's curious about doing math on the BrailleNote, here's what 
you do.  You start with a text document.  Once you have that 
created, use shorthand for some symbols.  You can come up with 
your own as long as you explin what it means to the teacher.  
Also, check out the unicode tables, where you can find lots of 
the symbols you need.  To get to these, pres backspace with dots 
3 and 5.  Hope this helps.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
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Subject: [nabs-l] Slowness of Notetakers was Re:  College

Please define what you mean by slow.  Have you used a 
BrailleNote?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College


 Braille Textbooks are needed for most Math.
 The Pac Mate isn't as slow, as the BN, though.
 Blessings, Joshua

 On 4/20/12, Lanie <readtobuild at gmail.com> wrote:
 I'm not sure.  I may be there, but I don't really know yet.  
I'll
 let you know if I will be.  Thanks for the offer.  I've tried to
 work the math on the BrailleNote, but even though you can do it,
 it's extremely slow and not good for taking notes.  As for
 getting my book electronically, I would if I could find it and 
if
 it's readable.  Most math isn't readable with a screen reader.

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
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 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:24:15 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College

 I'm just concerned, because she mentioned her back being 
affected
 by
 this constant use of the rolling backpack, with that heavy
 Brailler in
 it.
 That Brailler is extremely heavy, plus with a backpack, with 
huge
 Braille books, it will hurt your back, because I had similar
 problems!
 For my Math classes, to alleviate the problem, in high school, I
 was
 fortunate, to have a Brailler, in every classroom, (thanks to my
 VR
 Counselors,) (this was when they were cooperating.)
 I have an old Perkins, that I'm willing to get rid of, by the
 Fall, of
 this year, because I won't need it again.
 Lanie, will you be at convention, this year?
 Also, I'm still hoping, that David can market that new
 lightweight
 Brailler, that he showed me, 2 years ago.
 Thanks, Joshua

 On 4/20/12, Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home
 <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
  Joshua,

      You really could rephrase that as, "If possible, you could
 leave the
  Brailler." As has been stated, this does not seem to be an
 option.  What
  works for you does not work for everyone.  I know from
 experience that it is
  necessary to have a Brailler for certain types of math.

  Nicole

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
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  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 4:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College


  Just use the Braille note.
  Leave the Brailler alone.
  Blessings, Joshua

  On 4/20/12, Lanie <readtobuild at gmail.com> wrote:
  Hi all.  I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on 
this.
  I'm taking Calculus 2 in college and have to carry around
 several
  Braille volumes so that I can keep up, a Brailler, my
  BrailleNote, Braille paper, and an APH Graphing Aid for
  Mathematics, all in a huge rolling bag.  I have reason to think
  that all this is messing up my back.  I don't know how to
 lighten
  the load, but I can't keep carrxing it.  I've already talked
 with
  the Office for Students with Disabilities coordinator, but they
  don't have any Braillers.  How do any others on this list who
 are
  taking classes with huge Braille books and other things like
 this
  do it? Do you use a large bag like I do? Any advice here would
 be
  great! Thanks.

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