[nabs-l] citing APA style

Tue Apr 24 13:18:03 UTC 2012

Also it is a good thing to have someone else check your work, if you have
the time.  Others will pick up things you missed, and that is in no way a
bad reflection on you.  

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From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Ashley Bramlett
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 8:08 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] citing APA style

Humberto,
Jaws hase limitations where as a sighted person reads the whole liine and
knows that say Sociology is italicized and Smith is not.
You do not get this info unles you look for it and I don't always know where
to look for it. Insert f is limiting because it tells you info relevant to
that word only. I need to know where periods, commas, italics, etc are
within the whole line in this case. The way to learn is to have it explained
or see it brailled; braille is not an option in college; no braille
reference book, so I have to learn by someone telling me.

Also, I think I get it based on good explanations here; but having someone
look over this stuff is not a bad idea, time permitting. After all, that is
what tutoring is for in college. Most schools offer this.

Ashley

-----Original Message-----
From: Humberto Avila
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 6:31 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] citing APA style

Hello  Ashley and all.

I'm not trying to criticize your screen reader usage. But can't you use your
screen reader's specific commands to read font information and the like?
Isn't there a way to tell colors and at least attempt to format them
yourselves? I know I can do that with JAWS. The command for telling me the
font information using JAWS is insert+F, and the command to tell me what
color I am working with is insert+5, 5 meaning the number row on the
keyboard. I'm not sure you can do that in NVDA, but there are also settings
in NVDA that allow you to describe the font or text attributes.
In the settings center (for jaws 12 and over) / configuration manager (jaws
11 and under), there are settings that tell JAWS how to do all sorts of
things. Like there is a dialog box called the "speech and sounds scheme"
where you can specify what you want JAWS to speak. In NVDA, you can go to
the NVDA preferences menu and choose the "document formatting" dialog box in
which you can specify the settings that you want, like what attributes you
want NVDA to speak to you. My point is, yes you can request a reader, but
don't just request a reader for these things that a screen reader can do for
you. It might take you just a few seconds of your homework / study / testing
time when you hear that extra information coming out of your speakers or
headphones and deciphering into your brain for reading, but it is feasible.
Besides some of you crank that voice rate on your screen readers pretty
high. At least for me. I don't' want to rely so much on a reader just to
tell me, "hey this text is displaying in italics, red, and underlined."
while my screen reader can be my own reader for that. Isn't why such
software is called "screen reader"? Because it reads to you. [smile!]

Hope this helps you, and I am sorry if I'm starting a hot debate in here
about using real readers Vs. JAWS for editing font attributes. <smile>

Cheers,
Humberto

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Ashley Bramlett
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 1:28 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] citing APA style

gee, Josh, lots of people hate formatting. Its just a little harder for us
since we cannot see it so someone has to tell us.
It used to be that you put the article in quotes and underlined book or
chapter titles.From what I can see so far, this is no longer the case.
You start it the same though. Just do not put quotes or underlines; its
still author's name, date in parenthesis, title of article or book, title of

journal. then not sure.

I'll ask someone sighted yeah, but I need to learn. I can certainly bold or
italic something if I know what need  to be bolded/italiacized.

Ashley

-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 3:52 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] citing APA style

I've always hated APA format!
It's very confusing!
My Freshmen English instructor made us use it, so I had a sighted work-study
help me format it.
I'd recommend this, as well.
Blessings, Joshua

On 4/23/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm struggling with the citation style as usual. Jaws doesn't tell me 
> the formatting of the words and I went word by word to hear 
> punctuation in the sample reference entry I looked up.  I do have to
alphabetize them, right?

> I
> know you do in MLA.
>
> How Do I format the Journal title and title of article? Do I put 
> italics or anything on it? Before there were quotes around the title 
> of article, but when I looked online now, there are none.
> How do I site the volume number and issue? The sample says number and 
> a parenthese number. I'm confused. I know I site the page number range 
> after this. Like do I write Journal of Adolescent psychology, 3 (24) 
> and the 3 is volume number and 24 is issue number?
>
> Thanks.
> Ashley
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