[nabs-l] Job Hunting

Tue Aug 7 13:43:20 UTC 2012

Hi, Hope.
What assistive technology would you need, that would be expensive?
Who needs Jaws, when there's NVDA, which is free?
Just a suggestion.
Thanks, Joshua

On 8/7/12, Hope Paulos <hope.paulos at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there. I received my degree in secondary education with concentration in
> Spanish and another in modern languages focusing in Spanish and German. I've
> decided though, that I do not want to teach. I would rather be a vocational
> rehabilitation counselor. I know that if I work at my state agency, I can
> receive funding assistance with the grant provided by our essay. I'm hoping
> to go that route and obtain my masters degree. Unfortunately, public schools
> are also places of discrimination. It is very unlikely that they would hire
> totally blind individual to teach a high school Spanish class without
> concerns. They would need to hire an Ed Tech and also there are some
> specific assistive to technology that I would need that is very expensive.
> For example, Braille display, et cetera.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:19 PM, "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hope,
>> Are you working? If not, what is your area of study? I thought you were
>> studying to be a Spanish teacher or something.
>> I saw you on the nobe list, so I know you want to teach.
>> Its too bad they did what they did to you. Discrimination is live and well
>> around here.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Hope Paulos
>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 9:18 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>
>> I couldn't agree more. Well said!!! There was an instance where I had
>> applied for an interpreter work-at-home position and I had the skills and
>> passed the language part of the interview with flying colors. As soon as
>> I
>> mentioned I was blind I was told that I couldn't use  a computer to take
>> notes, but sighted people could use pencils. I was told I wouldn't be a
>> good
>> fit because I had to take breaks to take my dog outside. It was blatent
>> discrimination. Needless to say I filed a complaint with department of
>> justice and they got  called out. I don't think they'll be doing anything
>> like that again. Just keep advocating!!
>> Hope
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Gloria G
>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 9:05 PM
>> To: Misty Dawn Bradley; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>
>> Hi,
>> What I find interesting is the organizations that provide services to
>> persons with disabilities and tell the clients they can do whatever they
>> put
>> their minds to as long as they work hard and advicate for themselves,
>> turn
>> away a blind person because they feel we are unable to complete tasks.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Misty Dawn Bradley" <mistydbradley at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 7:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I also ran into the same issue when applying for a full-time position
>>> with AmeriCorps. The people conducting the interview kept emphasizing
>>> the paperwork, and I tried to explain that there are ways that I could
>>> do the paperwork, but I still did not get the position. It surprised
>>> me, because I worked in that same office and turned in all reports and
>>> paperwork on time, although I had a different supervisor and it was a
>>> different program. I think part of it was that I did not have
>>> experience in the area of the position, but I also think part of it
>>> was the paperwork, because that point was emphasized indirectly during
>>> the
>> interview.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Misty
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I am not offended or anything by the questions that are asked. I am
>>>> just upset that I am not given a chance. It is almost as if the
>>>> employer has decided what I can and can not do the minute I walk in
>>>> the door with my cane.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "David Dodge" <daviddod at buffalo.edu>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 7:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Gloria,
>>>>> It definitely sounds like you are going about things the right way.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would try not to get discouraged or be concerned by the questions
>>>>> the interviewer is asking. It is definitely not a bad thing for a
>>>>> blind person to help a sighted person better understand how the
>>>>> employment would work.
>>>>> Think of it as an opportunity for you to advocate and teach the
>>>>> potential employer something.
>>>>>
>>>>> The best that can be done is what you are doing - honestly answering
>>>>> questions and explaining things.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>> David Dodge
>>>>> Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson English Major
>>>>> University at Buffalo
>>>>> 306 Clemens Hall
>>>>> Buffalo, NY 14260
>>>>> daviddod at buffalo.edu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Gloria G <gloria.graves at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Hope,
>>>>>> Did you go to get your masters in rehab counseling? I have also
>>>>>> thought of getting a masters in rehab counseling.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hope Paulos"
>>>>>> <hope.paulos at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <
>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 7:16 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. I'm currently hunting for a job as well. I just answered them
>>>>>> as you
>>>>>>> do,
>>>>>>> explaining how I would do certain things and giving examples. I
>>>>>>> applied for a vocational rehabilitation counselor I. position and
>>>>>>> I would be working with individuals with disabilities as well as
>>>>>>> mental  health diagnoses.
>>>>>>> Nothing offends me so they can ask any question they want
>>>>>>> regarding my blindness. It's just a matter of overcoming the
>>>>>>> stereotypes put on us by people who don't know what we really can
>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org<nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>>>>>> On Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Gloria G
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:13 PM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Hope,
>>>>>>> Do you currently work? If so how did you get around those questions?
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hope Paulos"
>>>>>>> <hope.paulos at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 6:52 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Gloria. I think you're taking the right approach. I always
>>>>>>> disclose my
>>>>>>>> blindness (it's hard for them not to see  that I'm blind because
>>>>>>>> of my guide dog). I'd just continue to advocate for yourself as
>>>>>>>> far as working with at risk youth.
>>>>>>>> Hope
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org<nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>> Of Gloria G
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 7:24 PM
>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> I was wondering how do you handle interviews when the talk of
>>>>>>>> blindness comes up? I have had some interviews and in some cases
>>>>>>>> the interviewer does not bring up my blindness, but I know it is
>>>>>>>> something that is very noticable as soon as I walk in the door. I
>>>>>>>> try to remain calm and answer the questions that pertain to the
>>>>>>>> position I am applying for and I discuss how I would handle these
>>>>>>>> tasks despite my blindness. There are those interviewers who just
>>>>>>>> come right out and ask how I am going to complete the task
>>>>>>>> required of me as a blind person. I answer and give examples of
>>>>>>>> how I would complete the tasks. I guess I should have started out
>>>>>>>> by saying I am a psychology and sociology double major and want
>>>>>>>> to work with at risk youth as a counselor.
>>>>>>>> Because I do not yet have my degree I am trying to gain as much
>>>>>>>> experience as possible because this is what future employers will
>>>>>>>> be looking for, but the problem I run into is there are many
>>>>>>>> organizations that work with at risk youth in the town I live in,
>>>>>>>> but there is always the question of how I am going to work with
>>>>>>>> the youth as a blind person. I have also thought of doing any
>>>>>>>> work that envolved providing services to youth, women, families
>>>>>>>> such as, homeless shelters and things of that nature. I am just
>>>>>>>> feeling defeated at this point, because every door I have opened
>>>>>>>> has closed shut in my face, and it only seems to be due to me
>>>>>>>> being blind. I just want someone to give me a chance because I
>>>>>>>> know I can do the work.
>>>>>>>> Thanks
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